Choosing an Insurance Company

rlotharius

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Hi, I have been searching the best deal for insurance and have found that 'Erie Insurance' has by far the best rates and State Farm Mutual is in second. What I was wondering is if any of you have Erie and what are they like for making claims and things like that. Thanks alot!!
 

mithrandir2001

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I have Erie and it's true that they are often the cheapest. I am paying $825 a year to insure a 2001 Accord EX Coupe with full comp/coll, $500 deductible, 100/300/50 coverage, in a suburban location less than 10 miles from Philly. I'm 28 and single, so I think that's a great rate. State Farm wanted around $1100.

Thankfully, I've never had to make a claim with an insurer, but from what I've read, Erie is a very good company to deal with. In terms of recommendations, their auto claims department comes second only to USAA (check out epinions) and their homeowner's policy was rated #1 in satisfaction by J.D. Power for 2001.
 

rlotharius

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I am currently looking at Erie, State Farm Mutual, and Allstate. All their services are comparable but Erie is the cheapest. I've heard alot of good about state farm mutual and not going up from accidents, tickets etc.
 

cipher00

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Also, check out their claims-paying ability rating. Higher is usually better. State Farm has a lot of surplus; the reason you care is that you want to make sure they have enough $ to pay not just your claim but everybody else's, esp. if there's some catastrophe (hurricane, etc.).
 

777joee

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<< Hi, I have been searching the best deal for insurance and have found that 'Erie Insurance' has by far the best rates and State Farm Mutual is in second. What I was wondering is if any of you have Erie and what are they like for making claims and things like that. Thanks alot!! >>



Just remember this:



Insurance is just legalized gambling. You should go to the best house If you want to collect your winnings.



I have been with State Farm and paying them for 32 years for Auto, Renters and now Homeowners as well. My life insurance is part of my employment package. Other than I had to change my agent (health reasons) I have NEVER had any problems.



Just my $.02
 

mithrandir2001

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Sometimes people assume that since Erie has low policy rates, they must have cut-rate service. This doesn't seem to be true. Here is a statement about their financial stability, which was written from the cautionary perspective of a rating company, A.M. Best:

A.M. Best Co. has affirmed the financial strength ratings of the property/casualty and life affiliates of the Erie Insurance Group (NASDAQ: ERIE), Erie, Pennsylvania.

The ratings reflect the group's superior capitalization, competitive position in the independent agency channel and favorable regional business profile. Despite substantial declines in surplus over the last two years, the group's capital remains within the guidelines of the current rating level. While operating returns are below those of its peers, reported results are somewhat distorted by the profit component portion of the management fee paid by Erie Insurance Exchange to its attorney-in-fact, Erie Indemnity Company. When adjusted to account for this component as a dividend payment instead of an underwriting expense, the group's five year average pre-tax operating return is 10%, versus the reported 3%.

Recent results reflect Erie's above average investment leverage, declining underwriting experience and losses on the assumed reinsurance line. While the group's long-term capital appreciation investment strategy has historically generated capital gains and surplus growth, the predominantly stock weighted investment portfolio has led to high investment leverage with corresponding exposure to equity market volatility. Recent underwriting experience has deteriorated due to the combination of price competition, increasing loss costs and weather related events. In addition, 2001 results include assumed reinsurance losses of approximately $150 million related to the events of September 11. Erie has subsequently tightened its guidelines on the assumed reinsurance line as well as implemented terrorist exclusions where applicable.

Erie Family Life Insurance Company, as a member of the Erie Insurance Group, has faced similar challenges in terms of above average investment leverage in the equity sector. This strategy has been reevaluated and the allocation has been gradually reduced over the last twelve months. As a member of the Erie Insurance Group, Erie Life also enjoys benefits related to the group's strengths in terms of financial strength, marketing, distribution and customer reach.

Although Erie Insurance Group has implemented rate increases across the majority of its lines of business in response to rising loss costs and market rate firming, A.M. Best anticipates the group's results will continue to be pressured over the intermediate term. Unlike many of its peers, Erie's automobile policies are for a one-year term. While the annual policy contributes to high policyholder retention levels, it likely will temper improvement in results given the timing involved in earning rate increases.

Finally, there is transitional uncertainty associated with Erie's on-going search for a Chief Executive Officer subsequent to the retirement of former CEO, Stephen Milne, on January, 18, 2002.

The following financial strength ratings have been affirmed for the Erie Insurance property/casualty and life affiliates:


-- Erie Insurance Company A++ (Superior)
-- Erie Insurance Company of New York A++ (Superior)
-- Erie Insurance Exchange A++ (Superior)
-- Erie Insurance Property and Casualty Company A++ (Superior)
-- Flagship City Insurance Company A++ (Superior)
-- Erie Family Life Insurance Company A+ (Superior)
 

mithrandir2001

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Also:

Erie Insurance Rated #1 Agency-Represented
Auto Insurance Company by J.D. Power and Associates


Erie, Pa. ? Sept. 19, 2001 -- Consumers are very satisfied with the customer service, billing practices and claims handling they receive from Erie Insurance, according to J. D. Power and Associates? 2001 National Auto Insurance Customer Satisfaction Study released yesterday.

For the second consecutive year, the multi-line property/casualty insurance company was rated #1 agency-represented company and second overall in customer satisfaction. The J. D. Power and Associates study is available on line at www.jdpa.com.
 
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