Chorus of Islamic followers freak out about Pope's comments

[Alaa]

Welcome to AT chatting room..

 

[imported_dna]

Heh, and I've posted links to videos showing the hypocrisy, so claiming I haven't posted anything are exactly the words I would expect from a liar.

 

[imported_Lucifer]

khalas ya hayawanat.

 

[Alaa]

Originally posted by: dna
Heh, and I've posted links to videos showing the hypocrisy, so claiming I haven't posted anything are exactly the words I would expect from a liar.

so when there are multiple opinions from Muslims it is hypocrisy..from the west it is FREEDOM of speech??

 

[Alaa]

who are you talking to lucifer?

 

[imported_Lucifer]

Originally posted by: Alaa
who are you talking to lucifer?

walawahad. *cough dna aimster cough*

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: PurdueRy

Originally posted by: dna
Well, I guess it was due sooner or later:

Somali cleric calls for pope's death

A HARDLINE cleric linked to Somalia's powerful Islamist movement has called for Muslims to "hunt down" and kill Pope Benedict XVI for his controversial comments about Islam.

But...but....I thought...

Ouch!

We need to put that cleric and Pat Robertson in a small room together and see if they still feel like killing somebody.

 

[Aisengard]

Originally posted by: Alaa

Originally posted by: dna
Heh, and I've posted links to videos showing the hypocrisy, so claiming I haven't posted anything are exactly the words I would expect from a liar.

so when there are multiple opinions from Muslims it is hypocrisy..from the west it is FREEDOM of speech??

Freedom of speech does not condone violence. The end.

 

[imported_dna]

Originally posted by: Alaa
so when there are multiple opinions from Muslims it is hypocrisy..from the west it is FREEDOM of speech??

Pushing conspiracy theories is not freedom of speech -- it's plain propaganda.
Making half-assed condemnations of terrorist attacks, while saying very different things among your people is hypocrisy.

 

[imported_dna]

khalas ya majnun.

 

[imported_Lucifer]

Originally posted by: dna
khalas ya majnun.

mezea

 

[Drift3r]

Okay so you anti-muslim folks do you support the war in Iraq ? If you are going to label all muslims as being the same and of one mind then why are you so willing to support the war in Iraq ?

 

[Smilin]

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: Smilin

Originally posted by: Astaroth33
I'm convinced he's trolling on purpose, and doesn't actually believe most of the vomit he's spewing all over us.

I'm suspicious of this as well.

I've given my quota of thought to the discussion. Unless I get some thoughtful and meaningful response to my last post I'll likely just bow out.

This thread is my first trip back to P&N in a long time and I've quickly remembered why I left. Anand should just create a "Ignorant Flame" forum and just let people duke it out.

Please provide links of the religious leader "Ayatollah" from a credibe source.

When I say religious leader I mean someone with a lot of power.

People in Churches talk smack about Muslims/Jews/etc on a daily basis. Nobody cares because their voices are small.

People in Mosques talk crap about Christians/Jews/etc on a daily basis. Nobody cares because their voices are small.

The Pope's voice is huge and that is why he made a huge impact. I was asking for a comparable voice to go up against his. Not some random not heard of guy who runs a Mosque in Palestine.

Stop ducking me. Copy paste the quote into google if you want the MANY sources. You have twice been solidly disputed and simultaneously avoided answering any of my questions. After saying a prominent Cleric and Leader in Palestine wasn't enough you asked for a quote from a a full Ayatolla and I provided that.

You have also truncated our our entire discussion (or rather me pretty much pwning you) by quoting the above which was a side discussion where others were commenting on how weak your arguements are.

I said:
Ayatollah Ahmad Jannati was quoted as saying, ?"Humans who follow anything but Islam are the same as those animals who wander about and graze on the earth and commit corruption." Another translation of the quote reads, "sinful animals who roam the earth and engage in corruption?

He is a full Ayatollah and not from Palestine.

Spare me your attempt to abscure your lost arguemnt be feigning doubt of the quote I provided. If you are reading this now then you have the skills to verify a quote I proved simply by dropping it in a search engine. You leave yourself in the quandry between admitting you are wrong and admitting you are too incompenent to punch in a couple searches:

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Human...ls=com.microsoft:en-US&ie=utf8&oe=utf8

http://www.google.com/search?q=+%22sinf...ls=com.microsoft:en-US&ie=utf8&oe=utf8

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=...cd=1&q=Ahmad+Jannati+Ayatollah&spell=1

Do not also make a further feint by trying to wave your arm and discredit all sources as false. If you do, this source will be the first to reveal such a lie: http://www.cais-soas.com/


You have also ducked me three times in anwering MY questions. The battle on YOUR questions is over and this path for winning this argument is closed to you. The other debate is your only remaining exit. You should start by properly quoting me (rather than the blatant trucation you provided above) and then retorting my questions.

Do anything less, and you sir are dismissed.

 

[Smilin]

Originally posted by: Aimster
Cause either way you look at it.. 99.9% of suicide bombings are done by Arabs. Yet you continue to link it to Islam when 12% of the Arab population is Muslim.
...

Your logic is flawed and impotent in this statement.

Assuming your statistics above are true for a moment (if you intend to respond to this post, please start by proving them).

Are the 99.9% of suicide bombings done by Arabs within the 12% that are Muslim Arabs? If so, then yes it would be more logical to link suicide bombings to Islam than to Arabs.

Does not the suicide bomber intend to become a Martyr and granted paradise by Allah? Why would a non-Muslim Arab expect such a thing?

 

[Smilin]

Originally posted by: Drift3r
Okay so you anti-muslim folks do you support the war in Iraq ? If you are going to label all muslims as being the same and of one mind then why are you so willing to support the war in Iraq ?

anti-muslim, pro-muslim, relatively neutral on muslims (me), pro-cottage cheese, blah blah. Nobody in their right mind supports the war in Iraq.

War is and always will be the suck.

I happen to support the war in Afghanistan...I still think it's the suck though.

 

[Drift3r]

Originally posted by: Smilin

Originally posted by: Drift3r
Okay so you anti-muslim folks do you support the war in Iraq ? If you are going to label all muslims as being the same and of one mind then why are you so willing to support the war in Iraq ?

anti-muslim, pro-muslim, relatively neutral on muslims (me), pro-cottage cheese, blah blah. Nobody in their right mind supports the war in Iraq.

War is and always will be the suck.

I happen to support the war in Afghanistan...I still think it's the suck though.

Nobody in their right mind save "Stay the course", "Iraq is like post WW2 Germany" <- Republicans, GWB and his administration.

 

[imported_dna]

Nevertheless, simply leaving won't make things better.

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: dna
Nevertheless, simply leaving won't make things better.

The only thing that will quell their barbarism is if for a hundred years they lived with religious and government institutions that preached peace instead of violence.

 

[Aisengard]

Jesus, now they're even threatening to attack the VATICAN!

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Mujahedeen_...ssues_threat_of_attack_on_Vatican_City

They never will, but sheesh these idiots are crazy.

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: Smilin

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: Smilin

Originally posted by: Astaroth33
I'm convinced he's trolling on purpose, and doesn't actually believe most of the vomit he's spewing all over us.

I'm suspicious of this as well.

I've given my quota of thought to the discussion. Unless I get some thoughtful and meaningful response to my last post I'll likely just bow out.

This thread is my first trip back to P&N in a long time and I've quickly remembered why I left. Anand should just create a "Ignorant Flame" forum and just let people duke it out.

Please provide links of the religious leader "Ayatollah" from a credibe source.

When I say religious leader I mean someone with a lot of power.

People in Churches talk smack about Muslims/Jews/etc on a daily basis. Nobody cares because their voices are small.

People in Mosques talk crap about Christians/Jews/etc on a daily basis. Nobody cares because their voices are small.

The Pope's voice is huge and that is why he made a huge impact. I was asking for a comparable voice to go up against his. Not some random not heard of guy who runs a Mosque in Palestine.

Stop ducking me. Copy paste the quote into google if you want the MANY sources. You have twice been solidly disputed and simultaneously avoided answering any of my questions. After saying a prominent Cleric and Leader in Palestine wasn't enough you asked for a quote from a a full Ayatolla and I provided that.

You have also truncated our our entire discussion (or rather me pretty much pwning you) by quoting the above which was a side discussion where others were commenting on how weak your arguements are.

I said:
Ayatollah Ahmad Jannati was quoted as saying, ?"Humans who follow anything but Islam are the same as those animals who wander about and graze on the earth and commit corruption." Another translation of the quote reads, "sinful animals who roam the earth and engage in corruption?

He is a full Ayatollah and not from Palestine.

Spare me your attempt to abscure your lost arguemnt be feigning doubt of the quote I provided. If you are reading this now then you have the skills to verify a quote I proved simply by dropping it in a search engine. You leave yourself in the quandry between admitting you are wrong and admitting you are too incompenent to punch in a couple searches:

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Human...ls=com.microsoft:en-US&ie=utf8&oe=utf8

http://www.google.com/search?q=+%22sinf...ls=com.microsoft:en-US&ie=utf8&oe=utf8

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=...cd=1&q=Ahmad+Jannati+Ayatollah&spell=1

Do not also make a further feint by trying to wave your arm and discredit all sources as false. If you do, this source will be the first to reveal such a lie: http://www.cais-soas.com/


You have also ducked me three times in anwering MY questions. The battle on YOUR questions is over and this path for winning this argument is closed to you. The other debate is your only remaining exit. You should start by properly quoting me (rather than the blatant trucation you provided above) and then retorting my questions.

Do anything less, and you sir are dismissed.

You are not providing me a link.
All you are doing is providing me a google link.
What part of reliable link do you not understand?

I have yet to see one article from a reliable source.

I refuse to look at any website that I have never heard of.
This is the Internet. Not the college Library.

Do you even know what an Ayatollah is? There are 5 main Ayatollahs. They have followers in the millions.

What part of religious leader comparable to the Pope do you not understand?
Pope has millions of followers. Find me someone from the Islam world with millions of followers who said something[/b]

& stop listening to my suggestion. Ayatollah only applies to 10% of the Muslim population (Shia). Maybe you should focus on the other 90%. You might have a better chance

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: Smilin

Originally posted by: Aimster
Cause either way you look at it.. 99.9% of suicide bombings are done by Arabs. Yet you continue to link it to Islam when 12% of the Arab population is Muslim.
...

Your logic is flawed and impotent in this statement.

Assuming your statistics above are true for a moment (if you intend to respond to this post, please start by proving them).

Are the 99.9% of suicide bombings done by Arabs within the 12% that are Muslim Arabs? If so, then yes it would be more logical to link suicide bombings to Islam than to Arabs.

Does not the suicide bomber intend to become a Martyr and granted paradise by Allah? Why would a non-Muslim Arab expect such a thing?

You obviously lack common sense and your only purpose is to try to discredit me

Sorry but my logic does not fail.

99.9% of suicide bombings are done by Arabs. What part of that do you not understand? It is an Arab problem.

Islam doesn't mention anything about suicide bombings. There is no paradise by Allah.
It was created by Palestinians and passed on to their youth. Palestinians are Arab. Palestinians before Iraq were responsible fore 99.9% of the suicide bombings in the world. Do you not see the link? Congrats now you do.

I suggest you get an education about Islam because you start blabbering to me about non-sense.

If you can can link suicide bombings to the Quran then you can say Islam is responsible for suicide bombings. However, since Islam does not mention a single thing about suicide bombings you cannot link it to Islam. Do you not understand? If not, read the entire post again.

Like I said before:
Iraq borders several countries.
The largest countries by far are Iran and Turkey with 70 million people each.
Yet 0% of Iranians or Turks are entering Iraq to blow themselves up.
That supports my claim that suicide bombings is an Arab problem.

 

[Noobtastic]

Isn't the Prime Minister of Malaysia employing Protocals of Zion in the public schools? Fundamental Law is the guide many Islamic Republics use to govern their country. Islam is a violent, dangerous and disturbing culture/religion. Secularists make up the minority

 

[NoShangriLa]

It would be more productive if the religious leaders invite each other for a conference instead of throwing insults at each others into the wind.

 

[Aisengard]

Originally posted by: NoShangriLa

It would be more productive if the religious leaders invite each other for a conference instead of throwing insults at each others into the wind.

That's exactly what the Pope is calling for.

 

[0roo0roo]

well in response palestinians have burned churches. yes the religion of peace strikes again!