Chris Matthews slams Rush Limbaugh

[Juddog]

Fairly entertaining.

Chris Matthews

 

[crosshairs]

Funny stuff.....

 

[lupi]

Oh noes! An obama shill goes after the opposing party oh what will we do.

 

[Cogman]

LOL! "People fought hard for that vote" the Democratic Party != the government. If Rush single handedly causes the two party system to fracture into three, four, or even a hundred parties, then I full hearted applaud him. The two party system as it stands now, sucks. We have 2 sides with losers for nominees. I don't want to vote for anyone this election.

One more thing, our solders didn't fight for our right to vote, they faught for our right to do whatever the heck we want, or freedom. Last I checked, voting however you like was one of those freedoms that they got us. If the system breaks because of it, then it was long overdue to be broken.

 

[Corbett]

Originally posted by: Cogman
LOL! "People fought hard for that vote" the Democratic Party != the government. If Rush single handedly causes the two party system to fracture into three, four, or even a hundred parties, then I full hearted applaud him. The two party system as it stands now, sucks. We have 2 sides with losers for nominees. I don't want to vote for anyone this election.

One more thing, our solders didn't fight for our right to vote, they faught for our right to do whatever the heck we want, or freedom. Last I checked, voting however you like was one of those freedoms that they got us. If the system breaks because of it, then it was long overdue to be broken.

I agree 100%!

 

[Bird222]

Originally posted by: Cogman
LOL! "People fought hard for that vote" the Democratic Party != the government. If Rush single handedly causes the two party system to fracture into three, four, or even a hundred parties, then I full hearted applaud him. The two party system as it stands now, sucks. We have 2 sides with losers for nominees. I don't want to vote for anyone this election.

One more thing, our solders didn't fight for our right to vote, they faught for our right to do whatever the heck we want, or freedom. Last I checked, voting however you like was one of those freedoms that they got us. If the system breaks because of it, then it was long overdue to be broken.

You do realize that more than soldiers died for the right to vote? Also, you do realize that there are plenty of things that are allowed/legal to be done, but are not morally right? I can go around calling everyone I see an asshole and giving them the finger because I am 'free' to do so, but does that make it right or ok.

 

[StageLeft]

Assuming it's legal I don't really see a problem with it. It is underhanded but as mentioned above, are things really so fragile?

Anyway, Rush must be loving this attention.

 

[Cogman]

Originally posted by: Bird222
You do realize that more than soldiers died for the right to vote? Also, you do realize that there are plenty of things that are allowed/legal to be done, but are not morally right? I can go around calling everyone I see an asshole and giving them the finger because I am 'free' to do so, but does that make it right or ok.

I fail to see how this is illegal or immoral. Is letting a broken system continue on the moral thing to do just because that is the way it has been? You should note that a fair amount of our founding fathers faught against the two party system, and I think they where right. So anything that shows its weakness I support.

Really though, just like the republican caucus isn't related to the government at all (or really shouldn't be) neither is the democratic caucus. These are Private groups. What these people have done is akin to going to someones club house and voting for the club president nobody else is.

 

[Bird222]

Originally posted by: Cogman

Originally posted by: Bird222
You do realize that more than soldiers died for the right to vote? Also, you do realize that there are plenty of things that are allowed/legal to be done, but are not morally right? I can go around calling everyone I see an asshole and giving them the finger because I am 'free' to do so, but does that make it right or ok.

I fail to see how this is illegal or immoral. Is letting a broken system continue on the moral thing to do just because that is the way it has been? You should note that a fair amount of our founding fathers faught against the two party system, and I think they where right. So anything that shows its weakness I support.

Really though, just like the republican caucus isn't related to the government at all (or really shouldn't be) neither is the democratic caucus. These are Private groups. What these people have done is akin to going to someones club house and voting for the club president nobody else is.

Ok, and I just told your sister that I was a multi-millionaire business man because I knew she would give it up to a rich guy. Nothing immoral in that right? Simple question. Do you think manipulation for nefarious purposes is immoral?

 

[Thump553]

If this becomes a problem, the almost certain "remedy" will be to go to closed primary systems. Won't have an iota of an effect in eliminating the two party system.

Frankly, its just one more example of Rush's self-centered, abusive personality-drug abuser, people abuser, political system abuser, it doesn't matter, so long as he personally benefits. Fortunately most people have a moral compass significantly different from that fat clown's.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Assuming it's legal I don't really see a problem with it. It is underhanded but as mentioned above, are things really so fragile?

Anyway, Rush must be loving this attention.

Well technically it IS illegal. (at least in some states)

It's called 'election falsification'. In order to change party in some states you have to sign something where you swear you stand with the party's principles. People switching parties to vote for Hillary in the primary who are obviously still hard right republicans and will vote for McCain are nowhere close to that.

Of course that's one of those 'good luck in proving it' things, but Rush was definitely telling people to go commit a crime.

 

[OrByte]

If Rush was any kind of real influence we wouldnt have McCain as the GOP nominee. I fail to see how his dittoheads made any impact.

I wish the pundits would drop this non story because Rush really does not deserve the credit or the exposure for his antics.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: Thump553
If this becomes a problem, the almost certain "remedy" will be to go to closed primary systems. Won't have an iota of an effect in eliminating the two party system.

Frankly, its just one more example of Rush's self-centered, abusive personality-drug abuser, people abuser, political system abuser, it doesn't matter, so long as he personally benefits. Fortunately most people have a moral compass significantly different from that fat clown's.

:thumbsup:

 

[jonks]

Taken to the extreme this would end up like Realworld/Roadrules Gauntlet challenges where dems register as reps and vice versa in order to pick the candidate least likely to win in the fall and we have two schmucks battling in November. I figure the results if this actually happened would end up being Brownback vs Kucinich. Oh, the hilarity.

 

[Lemon law]

Its my understanding that its a criminal felony to cross party lines to sabotage another political party. You make a oath that you intend to vote for the party in the general election. But the catch 22 of it all is that your November ballot is secret so one would have to out your self to prove the case.

In terms of advocated others commit this felony, that is a free speech issue and Rush is betting he will not get prosecuted.

Some changes in election laws may be needed or we may just safely ignore it because the system can't really accommodate the independent voter.

But ethically speaking, its exactly what we expect from Rush. And I certainly hope that one day Rush has his little Don Imus moment. He already had one when he was given a chance to be a football commentator, but this election season
may be his renewed big chance. As it is Limbaugh has learned he has lost the bulk of the GOP electorate when he touted
Fred Thompson and ripped into McCain.

 

[GTaudiophile]

I applaud Rush in that he did somehow give license to Hillary to begin beating up the Messiah, I mean Obama. The media thought all-along that they had their "rockstar" who could do no wrong, and if anyone dared criticize him, they would be labeled a racist. How dare you disagree, you must be a racist!

Now Obama has been bruised and bloodied, and I hope more gloves come off in the future.

I don't care what color or gender you are. I care about your political ideology and how flawed it is.

 

[Genx87]

The tools are coming out of the woodwork now. Rush claiming he actually did this, and now Matthews adding credibility to Rush's fairy tale.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
I applaud Rush in that he did somehow give license to Hillary to begin beating up the Messiah, I mean Obama. The media thought all-along that they had their "rockstar" who could do no wrong, and if anyone dared criticize him, they would be labeled a racist. How dare you disagree, you must be a racist!

Now Obama has been bruised and bloodied, and I hope more gloves come off in the future.

I don't care what color or gender you are. I care about your political ideology and how flawed it is.

I don't know if you're a racist but I know your post is idiotic. Anti-Obama coverage has dominated the media since Wrightgate hit the scene. If it wasn't for Wright these tools would have had nothing to talk about on their shows.

Yeah, she sure did beat up Obama. Just look at the bruised and bloodied Obama walking away with 11 more elected delegates and 200K+ popular votes. :roll:

 

[daveymark]

DailyKos did the same thing in telling dems to vote for romney, so no need for the fake outrage. And the "rush has a larger audience" argument doesn't excuse it. no one is going to get prosecuted for something like this anyway, and if they did, Rush has pledged to sponsor their defense.

Which brings an interesting point: if libs really want to hit Limbaugh where it hurts, they should try to get prosecuted for "Crossing over" and then milk Limbaugh dry when he subsidizes their lawyers!

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: Genx87
The tools are coming out of the woodwork now. Rush claiming he actually did this, and now Matthews adding credibility to Rush's fairy tale.

All in an effort to boost their ratings. I'm willing to bet the voters who switched (R) to (D) had about as much effect as the VoteForTheWorst crowd.

 

[daveymark]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
I applaud Rush in that he did somehow give license to Hillary to begin beating up the Messiah, I mean Obama. The media thought all-along that they had their "rockstar" who could do no wrong, and if anyone dared criticize him, they would be labeled a racist. How dare you disagree, you must be a racist!

Now Obama has been bruised and bloodied, and I hope more gloves come off in the future.

I don't care what color or gender you are. I care about your political ideology and how flawed it is.

excellent point. What's sad is, should BHO win, the far left will accuse McCain of playing the race card if the legitimate issue of Wright is brought up.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: Thump553
If this becomes a problem, the almost certain "remedy" will be to go to closed primary systems. Won't have an iota of an effect in eliminating the two party system.

Frankly, its just one more example of Rush's self-centered, abusive personality-drug abuser, people abuser, political system abuser, it doesn't matter, so long as he personally benefits. Fortunately most people have a moral compass significantly different from that fat clown's.

:thumbsup:

I disagree. And the biggest problem with that is it creates a scenario where people are forced to register as one party even though at times, they may want to vote for the other.

What we need is an election process that ignores the parties themselves.

 

[Bird222]

Originally posted by: daveymark
DailyKos did the same thing in telling dems to vote for romney, so no need for the fake outrage. And the "rush has a larger audience" argument doesn't excuse it. no one is going to get prosecuted for something like this anyway, and if they did, Rush has pledged to sponsor their defense.

Which brings an interesting point: if libs really want to hit Limbaugh where it hurts, they should try to get prosecuted for "Crossing over" and then milk Limbaugh dry when he subsidizes their lawyers!

If this is true DailyKos is wrong too.

 

[BMW540I6speed]

Losing Rush Limbaugh's endorsement is like getting over a bad case of poison oak.

Limbaugh is only about himself. But his dittoheads need that booming bullshit he spews daily to tell them what to believe. Of course he disgusts anyone with a brain, but it's showbiz. Nothing more, nothing less.

This guy's thirst for attention knows no bounds. He is fast becoming the tragicomic jester of American politics: his impending irrelevance looming, he's trying desperately to hitch his wagon anywhere that will help him fill the void his fame, or infamy, depending on where you stand, has rendered increasingly difficult to fulfill. Keep entertaining us, Rush, in that sad way of yours.

It's time for another edition of "Alternative Scenario Playhouse!"

1. Limbaugh is one of those who finds HRC's message to white bubbas convincing, and she has convinced him she'd be the better candidate.

2. Limbaugh knows HRC has lost, and he wants to take credit for Obama's win.

He sent all those Super Secret "Operation Chaos" Agents out to vote for Hillary, and now he's telling them they voted wrong? . This oxy-moron, bleats soundbites and his sheep follow.

I really think the media must just hate the public.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: daveymark

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
I applaud Rush in that he did somehow give license to Hillary to begin beating up the Messiah, I mean Obama. The media thought all-along that they had their "rockstar" who could do no wrong, and if anyone dared criticize him, they would be labeled a racist. How dare you disagree, you must be a racist!

Now Obama has been bruised and bloodied, and I hope more gloves come off in the future.

I don't care what color or gender you are. I care about your political ideology and how flawed it is.

excellent point. What's sad is, should BHO win, the far left will accuse McCain of playing the race card if the legitimate issue of Wright is brought up.

:roll: Why use BHO? Why not do like the others who just use Obama's middle name in an attempt to link him to radical islam?

Wrightgate has already been overplayed so I doubt it's going to have the effect you desire. The fact that you attempted to link Obama to radical islam in the same sentence as Wrightgate is pretty funny though. Is he a black radical christian or muslim? Can't have it both ways FUD spreader.