Chris Matthews slams Rush Limbaugh

[Moonbeam]

If you don't like Limpbrow find out who advertiizes for him and write them and tell them you will nolonger buy their products.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: Thump553
If this becomes a problem, the almost certain "remedy" will be to go to closed primary systems. Won't have an iota of an effect in eliminating the two party system.

Frankly, its just one more example of Rush's self-centered, abusive personality-drug abuser, people abuser, political system abuser, it doesn't matter, so long as he personally benefits. Fortunately most people have a moral compass significantly different from that fat clown's.

:thumbsup:

I disagree. And the biggest problem with that is it creates a scenario where people are forced to register as one party even though at times, they may want to vote for the other.

What we need is an election process that ignores the parties themselves.

I would be fine with eliminating the 2 party system. Why should the election come down to a choice of A or B? Unfortunately, it's unlikely to happen anytime soon. That said, under the current system the best thing to prevent cross party BS votes is closed primaries.

What I don't understand is how these people did this? I was a registered (R) in FL and I didn't vote in the primary because I didn't care for any of the candidates and the vote wouldn't have counted anyway. When I heard about the possibility of a revote I wanted to vote for Obama so I decided to switch to (D) so I could vote for Obama. I did that but received a letter saying that I switched too late and would have to wait until after the election. Maybe that's just a FL rule?

 

[daveymark]

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: daveymark

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
I applaud Rush in that he did somehow give license to Hillary to begin beating up the Messiah, I mean Obama. The media thought all-along that they had their "rockstar" who could do no wrong, and if anyone dared criticize him, they would be labeled a racist. How dare you disagree, you must be a racist!

Now Obama has been bruised and bloodied, and I hope more gloves come off in the future.

I don't care what color or gender you are. I care about your political ideology and how flawed it is.

excellent point. What's sad is, should BHO win, the far left will accuse McCain of playing the race card if the legitimate issue of Wright is brought up.

:roll: Why use BHO? Why not do like the others who just use Obama's middle name in an attempt to link him to radical islam?

Wrightgate has already been overplayed so I doubt it's going to have the effect you desire. The fact that you attempted to link Obama to radical islam in the same sentence as Wrightgate is pretty funny though. Is he a black radical christian or muslim? Can't have it both ways FUD spreader.

so let's get this straight - GWB and HRC are acceptable, but BHO isn't? let's make sure your hypocrisy is on full dipslay so we all can get it right.

nice try, hack.

 

[BMW540I6speed]

What Rush Limbaugh did is not an expression of valid political speech. It goes beyond being distasteful and into the realm of actively subverting the political process/order upon which the First Amendment even has efficacy.

That said, I'm not saying Limbaugh was being seditious either, which would be perfectly okay. His intent was to secure or at least embolden his political interests by encouraging his listeners to lie in the voting process. It isn't even a matter of the voting process being sacred or anything, but that rather that Limbaugh gives affirmation to affecting the political process without in a crucial sense, engaging it.

His stunt is definitive of what Nietzsche called slave morality, and oozes with "ressentiment". It should definitely not be defended, because it has no place whatsoever in public speech. There is nothing defendable from the basis of free speech in Limbaugh's campaign to defraud the free speech of other voters whose free speech as voters depends upon this sort of thing not being acceptable. Defending Limbaugh's "right" to say what he said, and tacitly have the effects it intended to and did have, by dogmatically appealing to a political document that is made meaningless by his stunt shows the poverty of "rights" as a political concept. Those sorts of people negate the very freedom they like to think Limbaugh affirms.

 

[daveymark]

Originally posted by: Bird222

Originally posted by: daveymark
DailyKos did the same thing in telling dems to vote for romney, so no need for the fake outrage. And the "rush has a larger audience" argument doesn't excuse it. no one is going to get prosecuted for something like this anyway, and if they did, Rush has pledged to sponsor their defense.

Which brings an interesting point: if libs really want to hit Limbaugh where it hurts, they should try to get prosecuted for "Crossing over" and then milk Limbaugh dry when he subsidizes their lawyers!

If this is true DailyKos is wrong too.

it's happened multiple times throughout history on both sides of the fence.

 

[Lemon law]

The new Limbaugh line is that Obama is now the dems's weakest candidate. Because he cannot get the basic college non educated Labor vote that Hillary is getting. So its reverse course dittoheads, cross over and vote for Obama so Rush can claim credit for an Obama win already in the bag.

Of course the giant flaw in Limbaugh thinking will occur come November when the GOP discovers the huge group Hillary appealed to goes to Obama because its precisely that group that was the worse injured in the past eight years of GWB.
And the idea that McCain can offer them anything is absurd.

 

[lupi]

Originally posted by: daveymark

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: daveymark

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
I applaud Rush in that he did somehow give license to Hillary to begin beating up the Messiah, I mean Obama. The media thought all-along that they had their "rockstar" who could do no wrong, and if anyone dared criticize him, they would be labeled a racist. How dare you disagree, you must be a racist!

Now Obama has been bruised and bloodied, and I hope more gloves come off in the future.

I don't care what color or gender you are. I care about your political ideology and how flawed it is.

excellent point. What's sad is, should BHO win, the far left will accuse McCain of playing the race card if the legitimate issue of Wright is brought up.

:roll: Why use BHO? Why not do like the others who just use Obama's middle name in an attempt to link him to radical islam?

Wrightgate has already been overplayed so I doubt it's going to have the effect you desire. The fact that you attempted to link Obama to radical islam in the same sentence as Wrightgate is pretty funny though. Is he a black radical christian or muslim? Can't have it both ways FUD spreader.

so let's get this straight - GWB and HRC are acceptable, but BHO isn't? let's make sure your hypocrisy is on full dipslay so we all can get it right.

nice try, hack.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Genx87
The tools are coming out of the woodwork now. Rush claiming he actually did this, and now Matthews adding credibility to Rush's fairy tale.

Agreed. It seems that even the talking heads sometimes forget that they are entertainment, not news.

In particular with Rush, people forget that his whole extended family consists of lawyers and federal judges who for 3+ generations have depended on Republican appointments for their considerable wealth and influence in southeastern Missouri. He doesn't have ideology per se, he's just looking after the family business.

 

[jman19]

Originally posted by: lupi

Originally posted by: daveymark

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: daveymark

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
I applaud Rush in that he did somehow give license to Hillary to begin beating up the Messiah, I mean Obama. The media thought all-along that they had their "rockstar" who could do no wrong, and if anyone dared criticize him, they would be labeled a racist. How dare you disagree, you must be a racist!

Now Obama has been bruised and bloodied, and I hope more gloves come off in the future.

I don't care what color or gender you are. I care about your political ideology and how flawed it is.

excellent point. What's sad is, should BHO win, the far left will accuse McCain of playing the race card if the legitimate issue of Wright is brought up.

:roll: Why use BHO? Why not do like the others who just use Obama's middle name in an attempt to link him to radical islam?

Wrightgate has already been overplayed so I doubt it's going to have the effect you desire. The fact that you attempted to link Obama to radical islam in the same sentence as Wrightgate is pretty funny though. Is he a black radical christian or muslim? Can't have it both ways FUD spreader.

so let's get this straight - GWB and HRC are acceptable, but BHO isn't? let's make sure your hypocrisy is on full dipslay so we all can get it right.

nice try, hack.

I didn't realize Walker and Rodham were as polarizing as the name of a dictator from the Middle East. Thanks for clearing that up.

You guys aren't that stupid, are you?

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: lupi

Originally posted by: daveymark

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: daveymark

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
I applaud Rush in that he did somehow give license to Hillary to begin beating up the Messiah, I mean Obama. The media thought all-along that they had their "rockstar" who could do no wrong, and if anyone dared criticize him, they would be labeled a racist. How dare you disagree, you must be a racist!

Now Obama has been bruised and bloodied, and I hope more gloves come off in the future.

I don't care what color or gender you are. I care about your political ideology and how flawed it is.

excellent point. What's sad is, should BHO win, the far left will accuse McCain of playing the race card if the legitimate issue of Wright is brought up.

:roll: Why use BHO? Why not do like the others who just use Obama's middle name in an attempt to link him to radical islam?

Wrightgate has already been overplayed so I doubt it's going to have the effect you desire. The fact that you attempted to link Obama to radical islam in the same sentence as Wrightgate is pretty funny though. Is he a black radical christian or muslim? Can't have it both ways FUD spreader.

so let's get this straight - GWB and HRC are acceptable, but BHO isn't? let's make sure your hypocrisy is on full dipslay so we all can get it right.

nice try, hack.

I didn't realize Walker and Rodham were as polarizing as the name of a dictator from the Middle East. Thanks for clearing that up.

You guys aren't that stupid, are you?

No, they're just hoping that you are.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
I applaud Rush in that he did somehow give license to Hillary to begin beating up the Messiah, I mean Obama. The media thought all-along that they had their "rockstar" who could do no wrong, and if anyone dared criticize him, they would be labeled a racist. How dare you disagree, you must be a racist!

Now Obama has been bruised and bloodied, and I hope more gloves come off in the future.

I don't care what color or gender you are. I care about your political ideology and how flawed it is.

Yes, because YOUR political ideology has done such wonderful things for our country in the past 8 years. :roll:

When are you hacks going to figure out that this election is about kicking your fucked-up anything-but-conservative ideology out of Washington?

 

[RedChief]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: Thump553
If this becomes a problem, the almost certain "remedy" will be to go to closed primary systems. Won't have an iota of an effect in eliminating the two party system.

Frankly, its just one more example of Rush's self-centered, abusive personality-drug abuser, people abuser, political system abuser, it doesn't matter, so long as he personally benefits. Fortunately most people have a moral compass significantly different from that fat clown's.

:thumbsup:

I disagree. And the biggest problem with that is it creates a scenario where people are forced to register as one party even though at times, they may want to vote for the other.

What we need is an election process that ignores the parties themselves.

Your ignoring the fact that since political parties are essentially privately run organizations, they can decide their own rules for deciding who their candidates are. If they only want their own members voting in an election, that is there choice. Forcing them to open up to everyone only opens the door to doing that to other organizations.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
I applaud Rush in that he did somehow give license to Hillary to begin beating up the Messiah, I mean Obama. The media thought all-along that they had their "rockstar" who could do no wrong, and if anyone dared criticize him, they would be labeled a racist. How dare you disagree, you must be a racist!

Now Obama has been bruised and bloodied, and I hope more gloves come off in the future.

I don't care what color or gender you are. I care about your political ideology and how flawed it is.

Yes, because YOUR political ideology has done such wonderful things for our country in the past 8 years. :roll:

When are you hacks going to figure out that this election is about kicking your fucked-up anything-but-conservative ideology out of Washington?

It's not about what's best for America with these morons, it's more about their side winning no matter how much it harms this country. They got their wish in 2000 and 2004 and look how badly that turned out for America.

 

[lupi]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: lupi

Originally posted by: daveymark

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: daveymark

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
I applaud Rush in that he did somehow give license to Hillary to begin beating up the Messiah, I mean Obama. The media thought all-along that they had their "rockstar" who could do no wrong, and if anyone dared criticize him, they would be labeled a racist. How dare you disagree, you must be a racist!

Now Obama has been bruised and bloodied, and I hope more gloves come off in the future.

I don't care what color or gender you are. I care about your political ideology and how flawed it is.

excellent point. What's sad is, should BHO win, the far left will accuse McCain of playing the race card if the legitimate issue of Wright is brought up.

:roll: Why use BHO? Why not do like the others who just use Obama's middle name in an attempt to link him to radical islam?

Wrightgate has already been overplayed so I doubt it's going to have the effect you desire. The fact that you attempted to link Obama to radical islam in the same sentence as Wrightgate is pretty funny though. Is he a black radical christian or muslim? Can't have it both ways FUD spreader.

so let's get this straight - GWB and HRC are acceptable, but BHO isn't? let's make sure your hypocrisy is on full dipslay so we all can get it right.

nice try, hack.

I didn't realize Walker and Rodham were as polarizing as the name of a dictator from the Middle East. Thanks for clearing that up.

You guys aren't that stupid, are you?

No, they're just hoping that you are.

We're all just hoping for change




:laugh:

 

[Wheezer]

yes, lets make a big deal about this because this is the first time either party had told it's members to jump the fence and fuck with the other side.....your right....it has NEVER....EVER happened in this country before..........

 

[jman19]

Originally posted by: lupi

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: lupi

Originally posted by: daveymark

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: daveymark

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
I applaud Rush in that he did somehow give license to Hillary to begin beating up the Messiah, I mean Obama. The media thought all-along that they had their "rockstar" who could do no wrong, and if anyone dared criticize him, they would be labeled a racist. How dare you disagree, you must be a racist!

Now Obama has been bruised and bloodied, and I hope more gloves come off in the future.

I don't care what color or gender you are. I care about your political ideology and how flawed it is.

excellent point. What's sad is, should BHO win, the far left will accuse McCain of playing the race card if the legitimate issue of Wright is brought up.

:roll: Why use BHO? Why not do like the others who just use Obama's middle name in an attempt to link him to radical islam?

Wrightgate has already been overplayed so I doubt it's going to have the effect you desire. The fact that you attempted to link Obama to radical islam in the same sentence as Wrightgate is pretty funny though. Is he a black radical christian or muslim? Can't have it both ways FUD spreader.

so let's get this straight - GWB and HRC are acceptable, but BHO isn't? let's make sure your hypocrisy is on full dipslay so we all can get it right.

nice try, hack.

I didn't realize Walker and Rodham were as polarizing as the name of a dictator from the Middle East. Thanks for clearing that up.

You guys aren't that stupid, are you?

No, they're just hoping that you are.

We're all just hoping for change




:laugh:

The irony is that you are, presumably, blasting Obama for not having substance while you demonstrate for the rest of us that you have none and are just a troll.

 

[crisscross]

You guys have no clue of the problems with a muti party system. We have it in India and each party panders to it's own community, play on people's fears, rake up non-issues and end up with a fractured mandate, then string together a coalition which will do absolutely nothing because each party in the coalition will have it's own whims and fancies and threaten to withdraw support. It's horrible and pulls the country behind.

 

[JSt0rm]

link dead?

 

[daveymark]

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: lupi

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: lupi

Originally posted by: daveymark

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: daveymark

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
I applaud Rush in that he did somehow give license to Hillary to begin beating up the Messiah, I mean Obama. The media thought all-along that they had their "rockstar" who could do no wrong, and if anyone dared criticize him, they would be labeled a racist. How dare you disagree, you must be a racist!

Now Obama has been bruised and bloodied, and I hope more gloves come off in the future.

I don't care what color or gender you are. I care about your political ideology and how flawed it is.

excellent point. What's sad is, should BHO win, the far left will accuse McCain of playing the race card if the legitimate issue of Wright is brought up.

:roll: Why use BHO? Why not do like the others who just use Obama's middle name in an attempt to link him to radical islam?

Wrightgate has already been overplayed so I doubt it's going to have the effect you desire. The fact that you attempted to link Obama to radical islam in the same sentence as Wrightgate is pretty funny though. Is he a black radical christian or muslim? Can't have it both ways FUD spreader.

so let's get this straight - GWB and HRC are acceptable, but BHO isn't? let's make sure your hypocrisy is on full dipslay so we all can get it right.

nice try, hack.

I didn't realize Walker and Rodham were as polarizing as the name of a dictator from the Middle East. Thanks for clearing that up.

You guys aren't that stupid, are you?

No, they're just hoping that you are.

We're all just hoping for change




:laugh:

The irony is that you are, presumably, blasting Obama for not having substance while you demonstrate for the rest of us that you have none and are just a troll.

even more ironic -

presuming that referring to Obama as BHO somehow insinuates that he is a muslim is a stretch for anybody but the most vehement BHO supporter, and is so weaksauce that it should be ripped from the BHO supporter playbook post haste.

To quote BHO, "This is where we get into the silly season of politics"

indeed.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: crisscross
You guys have no clue of the problems with a muti party system. We have it in India and each party panders to it's own community, play on people's fears, rake up non-issues and end up with a fractured mandate, then string together a coalition which will do absolutely nothing because each party in the coalition will have it's own whims and fancies and threaten to withdraw support. It's horrible and pulls the country behind.

Let me break a few things down for you.

In America each party panders to its own community, plays on people's fears, and rakes up non-issues. In our legislative bodies we end up with fractured mandates that do absolutely nothing because each member of congress has their own whims and fancies. It's horrible.

Not only that, but people in America frequently prefer gridlock to one party running off insanely to implement their agenda. Just because from 2000-2006 involved one party controlling everything doesn't mean that's how it normally is. (and thank god for that. did you see how many horrible things happened in America during that period?)

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
I applaud Rush in that he did somehow give license to Hillary to begin beating up the Messiah, I mean Obama. The media thought all-along that they had their "rockstar" who could do no wrong, and if anyone dared criticize him, they would be labeled a racist. How dare you disagree, you must be a racist!

Now Obama has been bruised and bloodied, and I hope more gloves come off in the future.

I don't care what color or gender you are. I care about your political ideology and how flawed it is.

Yes, because YOUR political ideology has done such wonderful things for our country in the past 8 years. :roll:

When are you hacks going to figure out that this election is about kicking your fucked-up anything-but-conservative ideology out of Washington?

They're not stupid - just in denial. This is 1000% true unfortunately - just like the '00 election was about sex.

It would be nice to have an election based on real issues but I guess we voters are just too petty - we look forward to the trainwrecks.

 

[Pabster]

Hilarious. The "drive-bys" (as Rush says) who all wrote him off as irrelevant a few months back for his "failure" to stop McCain are now heralding him as a major factor in Hillary's victory in Indiana. These jokers can't make up their minds.

 

[sportage]

Oh noes! An obama shill goes after the opposing party oh what will we do.

Got that right!!!
Watching msnbc praising Obama Tues nite was like watching a porn video without the sex. :roll:

 

[nageov3t]

I think you all vastly overestimate Rush's power and sphere of influence... as if his head needs to grow bigger.

is it so inconceivable that Hillary might appeal to some conservatives? the Pelbama wing of the party has been calling her a republican all year, and she certainly managed to win over conservatives in NY.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Pabster
Hilarious. The "drive-bys" (as Rush says) who all wrote him off as irrelevant a few months back for his "failure" to stop McCain are now heralding him as a major factor in Hillary's victory in Indiana. These jokers can't make up their minds.

Despite his claims to contrary, Rush is part of the MSM. He works for Clear Channel.