No that’s the christians as well. Gay. Pregnant out of wedlock. They love firing for their dictated morality.
I would consider things like that evidence, assuming they are sufficient to suggest a shifting rule rather than exceptions. I just don't see it here in the US. The truth is that we're being exposed to nudity possibly 100 fold more than 20 years ago simply because of the internet, and while some religious people and some feminists seem to oppose this, there doesn't seem to be any serious effort to censor it.
What does Christianity have to do with this?
While people are wasting breath decrying Sharia Law a Christian form of Talibanism reared its ugly head in Utah.
In their twisted world pretend liberals have been brainwashed under multiculturalism that Islam is a race, culture of brown people to be defended while Christianity is the white man's devil to be ridiculed, attacked, criticized.
You know when Ashcroft wanted to cover up the statue in the justice department he was imposing his christian values,
but when the president of Iran visited Rome the liberal Italians made sure to cover up their statues in order not to offend Muslims.
Real liberals treat all religions the same and know that is the best approach in a secular state and certainly don't go comparing the unlawful firing of a teacher to the legal in Taliban controlled Afghanistan but despicable acts of the Taliban.
Too bad most who call themselves liberal today are no different than conservative sheep that follow the herd,
Just like many Christians defend people like Trump and Roy Moore even though it goes against their core religious teaching, pretend liberals defend Islam and Muslims in the same way even if they have to throw women, gays, and many of the secular principles they say they believe in, under the bus in order to defend their precious multiculturalism.
Im considered liberal, and ill decry any form of oppression from conservative beliefs. so, 1prophet, this puts a nice little hole in your generalized theory. i also support religious freedom for all in our country. i dont support legislation of religious beliefs.
both of and from. as Conservatives seem to be the oppressors, they really cant complain when liberals dont agree with theyre hateful beliefs (of course, not all religious or religions are hateful), and are vocal about it. yet, thats exactly what many religious want, is to not hear it because they feel "oppressed". so take it for its worth, this country is not a Christian country, amd i support religious amd non religious freedom for all. thats right, non believers should not be subject to believers religious preferences.
White christians are the ones who bring race into. talking with any liberals, both religious and not, has shown me that everytime. its not until you run into some white christians, obviously not all, and i wouldnt say the majority either, that i see the racism come to light.
Ugh, this is the other side of what I just called out the OP for. Christianity for a long time has hated nudity. Hell, Catholics don't eat meat for the following reason.
Christians are super worried about people getting horny. If they think food causes you to get turned on, imagine what painted boobs might do!
Its not atheists or Jewish people firing teachers for displaying art.
are you saying black people in hsrlem arent christians?Complete nonsense. The Council of Trent forbade the use of nude imagery in the context of exciting lust, the same essential definition of pornography today. Go see the ceiling of the Sistine chapel some day.
Christians guard against lust, as it is a vice. They guard against the corruption of pleasures, the turning of pleasures to evil ends, not the pleasures themselves.
Ah I see. So if this happened in Harlem, we'd be saying the black Taliban is alive and well?
You guys need to be careful with your prejudices.
yea phone drives me crazy sometimesDon't disagree with that.
Also, I'm assuming you are being auto corrected because it says amd instead of and which made me smile because my phone does the same.
Complete nonsense. The Council of Trent forbade the use of nude imagery in the context of exciting lust, the same essential definition of pornography today. Go see the ceiling of the Sistine chapel some day.
Christians guard against lust, as it is a vice. They guard against the corruption of pleasures, the turning of pleasures to evil ends, not the pleasures themselves.
Im considered liberal, and ill decry any form of oppression from conservative beliefs. so, 1prophet, this puts a nice little hole in your generalized theory. i also support religious freedom for all in our country. i dont support legislation of religious beliefs.
In the US it started with the infamous boob of Janet during the Superbowl. If you do not remember this, then you have selectively forgotten something that was very obvious.
https://web.archive.org/web/2007122...ime/magazine/article/0,9171,1039700-2,00.html
Family guy modified an episode to remove Stewie's bare butt. The rise of the PTC Parents Television Council which helped drive sponsors away from shows like ********* Tuck. Post Superbowl there was a big movement and it was known. We are just now starting to come out of it, but if you cannot remember it then feel free to look it up, or read the link I provided.
As for nudity and porn being around, its not in the public eye. Its all hush hush and behind the curtain which is what is the problem. So, while kids have access, the parents can believe that because they dont see it, the kids are not either. Hell, my GFs dad wont let his now 14yo daughter go to some friends houses overnight because they have a brother too close to her age, but she has a laptop and a phone. Ignorance.
The Council of Trent was a response to the reformation and was basically like what we had post superbowl. The Sistine Chapel was once nude, and then the Christians felt like it was too much and had the chapel repainted to cover the naughty bits.
Its a perfect example of the religious not being able to handle the human body. Perfectly fine until it was not.
thats excessively generic. please, elaborate on what this pic is, feel free to linkQuestion. If this incident had regarding a very clearly pornographic image, would you say the accusation of "Christian taliban" is inappropriate?
Yes, I remember the Janet Jackson Superbowl incident. I saw it live, uncensored. I also remember things like the Communications Decency Act (struck down by the SCOTUS). The way I see it, there's always a certain number of dowdy moralists who want to suppress/censor sex and nudity. This goes all the way back to the founding of the republic.
You may be correct that there was something of a surge of this during the 90's and early 2000's, the era where conservatives went on about "family values," though this seems to have died down to some extent. Yet I'm sure we haven't heard the last of it. It doesn't concern me that much any more because these people cannot win in the long run.
Question. If this incident had regarding a very clearly pornographic image, would you say the accusation of "Christian taliban" is inappropriate?
It was more than a "number of dowdy moralists". There were actual things done, and a big shift in the culture. It caused the Victoria's Secret Fashion Show to be canceled in 2004. It was also live but then done recorded to prevent any wardrobe malfunctions.
So, do you still disagree with my statement about society having become more prudish?
Yes, I lived through it, and I didn't see it as a big culture shift. I see these kinds of activities as emerging from time to time. It's still going to be happening 50 years from now. In any event, whether it's a big culture shift or not is a matter of opinion. I don't think we really disagree about what things have happened in the past.
I would consider things like that evidence, assuming they are sufficient to suggest a shifting rule rather than exceptions. I just don't see it here in the US. The truth is that we're being exposed to nudity possibly 100 fold more than 20 years ago simply because of the internet, and while some religious people and some feminists seem to oppose this, there doesn't seem to be any serious effort to censor it.