Christians Attacked In Michigan!

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busydude

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not just non-Hindus.. even Hindus who don't lead a sattvic lifestyle are considered mlecchas according to saStrAs.. so analysis fail on your part..

Er.. do you realize Vedic Hinduism is not the only kind? It is just one part of it, but was popularized during the reform.. after Buddism and Jainism became popular.
 
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ch33zw1z

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Blaming religion for this is like blaming rain for the failure of a badly designed and imporperly maintained dam failing. It is the idiots who abuse religion that are at fault...at least wrt these two religions.

Aw, how cute. Religion is a guise that cowards hide behind. It is to blame, for giving people a motivation and the gall to act in such ways.
 

WelshBloke

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Aw, how cute. Religion is a guise that cowards hide behind. It is to blame, for giving people a motivation and the gall to act in such ways.

No, cybrsage is right. Those guys would be just as big a bunch of assholes without religion.
 
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Wrong, with no religion these people would be normal


These people are no more different than football or soccer hooligans.
They need something to rebel against, it is in their nature to seek out an enemy. They are naturally born foot soldiers in times of war. Pawns in a chess game. Perfect infantry.
It has nothing to do with religion. You will find them in every religion. It is in the genetic nature of these "beasts"...
And they have chosen to embrace it....
 
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I don't think that you can say that it was just Christianity that made them stick a pigs head on a pole and look for trouble.

I wasn't talking about Christianity though, the Christians put a pigs head on a pole, who cares, they have the right to do it and the fact that muslims have TO RESORT TO VIOLENCE just shows there values
 

PingviN

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I wasn't talking about Christianity though, the Christians put a pigs head on a pole, who cares, they have the right to do it and the fact that muslims have TO RESORT TO VIOLENCE just shows there values

Putting pigs' heads on spikes don't show Christians by their true colors, but Muslims resorting to violence do? That they have the legal right doesn't mean they have a working moral compass.

But yeah, I'm pretty sure the world would be much, much better off without the religious bigotry. Religion is a very destructive and segregating force.
 
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Putting pigs' heads on spikes don't show Christians by their true colors, but Muslims resorting to violence do? That they have the legal right doesn't mean they have a working moral compass.

But yeah, I'm pretty sure the world would be much, much better off without the religious bigotry. Religion is a very destructive and segregating force.

Maybe the Christians shouldn't have done the pigs head, BUT THEY STILL HAVE A RIGHT TO DO IT, THE MUSLIMS WERE 100% WRONG TO USE VIOLENCE, if the muslims peacefully countered they would be alright but that's not what happened.

I agree with you that certain religions cause a lot more harm than good.
 

alzan

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Maybe the Christians shouldn't have done the pigs head, BUT THEY STILL HAVE A RIGHT TO DO IT, THE MUSLIMS WERE 100% WRONG TO USE VIOLENCE, if the muslims peacefully countered they would be alright but that's not what happened.

I agree with you that certain religions cause a lot more harm than good.

As has been pointed out, just because you have a right to do something doesn't mean you should exercise that right. The Christians put the pigs head on a pole and shouted phrases such as "God is not Allah" to provoke reactions. A few young Muslims chose to react with violence. If you don't want Christianity painted with a broad brush for the actions of a few, then don't do it to Islam.

All religions have as part of their respective followers a vocal and extremist few who "set the tone" in the media and framing public discourse. Don't fall victim to the trap.
 
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As has been pointed out, just because you have a right to do something doesn't mean you should exercise that right. The Christians put the pigs head on a pole and shouted phrases such as "God is not Allah" to provoke reactions. A few young Muslims chose to react with violence. If you don't want Christianity painted with a broad brush for the actions of a few, then don't do it to Islam.

All religions have as part of their respective followers a vocal and extremist few who "set the tone" in the media and framing public discourse. Don't fall victim to the trap.

I stated earlier that maybe the Christians shouldn't have done it, no one can tell them to do that or not BUT they still have the RIGHT to do it though which is why I support there right.

It was more than just a FEW of them , it was much more
 

alzan

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I stated earlier that maybe the Christians shouldn't have done it, no one can tell them to do that or not BUT they still have the RIGHT to do it though which is why I support there right.

It was more than just a FEW of them , it was much more

Out of the total amount attending the festival, yes it was a few. Out of the video and the article I only saw one estimate of the number of children throwing things and that was by Mr. Israel; not exactly an unbiased source.

I support their right to have meaningful discourse. I just happen to think that having a pig's head on a pole and shouting "God is not Allah" and other choice phrases is an incredibly stupid way to start meaningful discourse. It could be easily seen as incitement to riot as well.

Go ahead head and cry about the poor persecuted Christians if you want, people like them is what gives Christianity a bad name.
 
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I support their right to have meaningful discourse. I just happen to think that having a pig's head on a pole and shouting "God is not Allah" and other choice phrases is an incredibly stupid way to start meaningful discourse. It could be easily seen as incitement to riot as well.

I dont care if they did that

Simple Question: Do they have the RIGHT to do this?
 

PingviN

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Maybe the Christians shouldn't have done the pigs head, BUT THEY STILL HAVE A RIGHT TO DO IT, THE MUSLIMS WERE 100% WRONG TO USE VIOLENCE, if the muslims peacefully countered they would be alright but that's not what happened.

I agree that the Muslims were legally 100% wrong, but the Christians in questions show their own religious bigotry in an immoral way. Naturally I believe that violence is not an appropriate reaction to insult, but if you believe that the Christians in question are better people, you're wrong.

Legal rights and moral are not always the same thing.

I agree with you that certain religions cause a lot more harm than good.

Not certain religions; all religions.
 

sandorski

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Reminds me of little kids. 1 pesters the other until the other reacts. Then the kid goes running to Mommy crying about how mean the other one is.
 

alzan

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I dont care if they did that

Simple Question: Do they have the RIGHT to do this?

Obviously. Whatever Christians do is perfectly okay with you I'm sure.

Simple answer; no, Christians do not have a right to incite others to riot or violence. No one does, at least not in this country.
 

poohbear

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WND later learned that the Christian crowd had been carrying a pole with a pig’s head attached to the top, further angering the Muslim crowd. At the beginning of the video, Christian street preachers shout, “God is good, and God is not Allah!”

Police approached Israel, of OfficialStreetPreachers.com, warning him, “The city of Dearborn has an ordinance, OK, that you guys can’t use the megaphone. So, if you guys continue to use that, you will get a citation.”

Israel noted that the group was allowed to use the megaphone in 2011. Then he asked the officer, “So, if we don’t use a megaphone, can we throw water bottles at the crowd?”

The officer shook his head no.

“So what are you going to do if they throw water bottles at us?” Israel asked.

“If that happens, we will take care of that and address it,” the officer promised.



http://www.wnd.com/2012/07/outrage-over-mob-attack-in-michigan/


OP how could you fail to mention this?????? you're such a troll to post that "Christians" were "attacked" without mentioning they were going into an Arab Muslim neighborhood with a pig on a pole and trying to provoke them with a loudspeaker. Can you atleast TRY to be subtle about your racism & hate? If muslims did this in a christian neighborhood, and christians pelted them, i'm sure you'd be taking the muslims side yea?

As far as im concerned Christians don't do nonsense like this, they were ppl parading as Christians cause it sure as hell aint Christ like to go picking fights. And is it coincidence that the guys name is Israel???? some pro-israeli Christian protest group, no wonder the police sided with the muslims.

If white supremecasists walked into a black neighbourhood and tried to provoke them they would get NO sympathy whatsoever!

If you go looking for trouble, its very easy to find.
 
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zinfamous

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OP how could you fail to mention this?????? you're such a troll to post that "Christians" were "attacked" without mentioning they were going into an Arab Muslim neighborhood with a pig on a pole and trying to provoke them with a loudspeaker. Can you atleast TRY to be subtle about your racism & hate? If muslims did this in a christian neighborhood, and christians pelted them, i'm sure you'd be taking the muslims side yea?

As far as im concerned Christians don't do nonsense like this, they were ppl parading as Christians cause it sure as hell aint Christ like to go picking fights. And is it coincidence that the guys name is Israel???? some pro-israeli Christian protest group, no wonder the police sided with the muslims.

If white supremecasists walked into a black neighbourhood and tried to provoke them they would get NO sympathy whatsoever!

If you go looking for trouble, its very easy to find.

did you read the article/webpage he listed? It's pure white-supremacist, ultra-nationalist propaganda horseshit.

tells you all you really need to know about the OP, to vet the content that he uses as "sources."
 

zinfamous

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In this story, the "majority" are christians (in the US) and the minority are muslims.

wtf are you reading?

In this story, the majority are muslims/arabs (many of them likely christians), in a majority muslim/arab community, beign attacked by minority christians.

that is this story.

try to keep up.
 
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