Christians Attacked In Michigan!

[Incorruptible]

why do you link white supremacist websites and "news" portals as sources of information?

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I dont belong to these sites, its just because they are the only ones that talk about these incidents so I use them,

Back to the topic the Christians were 100% right

 

[zinfamous]

I dont belong to these sites, its just because they are the only ones that talk about these incidents so I use them,

Back to the topic the Christians were 100% right

No they weren't.

Why do you think these white supremacist websites are the only ones that discuss this topic? They clearly hold some viewpoint shared with your own.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

I dont belong to these sites, its just because they are the only ones that talk about these incidents so I use them,

Back to the topic the Christians were 100% right

Only a complete zealot would say they were "100% right." They were obviously in the wrong, as were the people who threw things at them.

Do you think the Westboro Baptist Church is 100% right when they march at the funerals of dead GIs with signs saying "Thank God for 9/11"?

 

[Incorruptible]

Only a complete zealot would say they were "100% right." They were obviously in the wrong, as were the people who threw things at them.

Do you think the Westboro Baptist Church is 100% right when they march at the funerals of dead GIs with signs saying "Thank God for 9/11"?

They had the right to do this though, I dont care if you disagree with them because they didn't use violence

So many hypocrites here, many of you guys supported OWS and there rights but now that you disagree with Christians you want there rights trampled

 

[Pr0d1gy]

They had the right to do this though, I dont care if you disagree with them because they didn't use violence

So many hypocrites here, many of you guys supported OWS and there rights but now that you disagree with Christians you want there rights trampled

Actually what we want is for them to behave like Christians instead of like a bunch of stoned college kids at a Vietnam protest. Your problem is that you need to sensationalize everything because you're a troll.

 

[alzan]

I dont belong to these sites, its just because they are the only ones that talk about these incidents so I use them,

Back to the topic the Christians were 100% right

You link to those sites because the views of their owners are similar to your own. Dearborn Free Press had an article about this incident as well but you chose not to link it, I wonder why.

The Christians went to this festival in Dearborn with the intent of provoking the people attending. They put a pigs head on a pole and shout messages of hate at the festival attendees with the intent of inciting a riot and/or violence and they do not have a right to do that in this country.

I know this may come as a shock to you and others, but you don't convert people to your religion by displaying a sign reading "Islam is a religion of blood and murder" or shouting "You’re gonna burn in hell you little dirtbags".

 

[Incorruptible]

Actually what we want is for them to behave like Christians instead of like a bunch of stoned college kids at a Vietnam protest. Your problem is that you need to sensationalize everything because you're a troll.

Yes I agree that the Christians definitely should have been more polite but they didn't use violence so the reaction of the muslims still isn't justified and I haven't seen any condemnation of them

The OWS did much worse than the Christians and many on here defended them, love the double standards

 

[zinfamous]

They had the right to do this though, I dont care if you disagree with them because they didn't use violence

So many hypocrites here, many of you guys supported OWS and there rights but now that you disagree with Christians you want there rights trampled

Simply b/c they have "the right" to do this, does not make them "right."

Do you not see the vast gulf of difference between these two issues?

pathetic.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

They had the right to do this though, I dont care if you disagree with them because they didn't use violence

So many hypocrites here, many of you guys supported OWS and there rights but now that you disagree with Christians you want there rights trampled

There is a difference between something not being legally proscribed and it being "100% right."

Nobody is calling for the "rights" of these morons to be "trampled." You have made that up yourself as a way of framing this discussion. IMO they didn't do anything illegal and they're not being prosecuted. No "trampling" of their rights has occurred or even been threatened. Your logic is as faulty as your spelling and grammar, and that's saying something.

 

[Incorruptible]

Simply b/c they have "the right" to do this, does not make them "right."

Do you not see the vast gulf of difference between these two issues?

pathetic.

But it doesn't matter what other people think if there right or not, do you agree that they have the right to do this?

 

[zinfamous]

Yes I agree that the Christians definitely should have been more polite but they didn't use violence so the reaction of the muslims still isn't justified and I haven't seen any condemnation of them

The OWS did much worse than the Christians and many on here defended them, love the double standards

displaying a severed pig's head on a pike is in itself, an act of violence and clear provocation--especially when it is so clearly directed a very specific group that finds such images offensive (I know--it's almost worthless to keep pointing this out to you, because you are about 7 pins shy of a strike).

Just about everyone hates Wall street for ruining their retirement funds--and also, violence at OWS movements was not initiated by OWS people, but riff-raff anarchists and street thugs that show up at these events simply to start shit. ( e.g: anyone who thinks the violence in Oakland is due to the OWS people simply has no clue what is going on in Oakland.)

 

[zinfamous]

But it doesn't matter what other people think if there right or not, do you agree that they have the right to do this?

Of course it does.


you also need to work on your grammar.

...and I have already answered your question, troll.

 

[busydude]

Do you know what apauruSeyatattva is? If you think there are "multiple" Hinduism"s".. then.. there is no point in even talking about it..

The groundswell of Hindu Dharma is the Veda (Sruti).

These all are a part of vedic philosophy. There are many different aspects of Hinduism that does not deal with vedas, yet they are part of Hinduism.

Even in vedic Hinduism, advaita vedatam is the most popular version in India.

 

[alzan]

Yes I agree that the Christians definitely should have been more polite but they didn't use violence so the reaction of the muslims still isn't justified and I haven't seen any condemnation of them

The OWS did much worse than the Christians and many on here defended them, love the double standards

Many people in this thread including myself have said that it was wrong of a few of the children attending the festival to have thrown things at Ruben Israel and his group. Perhaps you don't see the condemnation because it doesn't fit your Islamophobic world view.

By the way, it's proper grammar to capitalize the words Muslim or Islam.

 

[Incorruptible]

Many people in this thread including myself have said that it was wrong of a few of the children attending the festival to have thrown things at Ruben Israel and his group. Perhaps you don't see the condemnation because it doesn't fit your Islamophobic world view.

By the way, it's proper grammar to capitalize the words Muslim or Islam.

Except it wasn't only children, there were older people doing it as well. As well there were some people that said the Christians shouldn't be able to do what they did, well that's the thing about free speech people dont always agree with you but we must defend it. Just like OWS who I dont support they still have the right, the same for Christians all I want is equality for both sides

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Except it wasn't only children, there were older people doing it as well. As well there were some people that said the Christians shouldn't be able to do what they did, well that's the thing about free speech people dont always agree with you but we must defend it. Just like OWS who I dont support they still have the right, the same for Christians all I want is equality for both sides

There is no free speech issue here. The Government has taken no action to suppress the free speech rights of these idiots. Are you literally unable to understand that or are you just being willfully disingenuous?

I don't believe it's coincidental that the threads you start so often seem to involve criticizing Muslims and/or defending the rights of ignorant Christian provocateurs. I don't know if you're a troll adopting a bigoted, ignorant online persona (which would be sad) or if you're serious (which would be even sadder). In either case I think you have issues.

 

[alzan]

Except it wasn't only children, there were older people doing it as well. As well there were some people that said the Christians shouldn't be able to do what they did, well that's the thing about free speech people dont always agree with you but we must defend it. Just like OWS who I dont support they still have the right, the same for Christians all I want is equality for both sides

Sorry. If you're defending someone's right to provoke or incite to riot or violence then all I can really do is shake my head in bemusement and disgust.

 

[Incorruptible]

Sorry. If you're defending someone's right to provoke or incite to riot or violence then all I can really do is shake my head in bemusement and disgust.

Thats because you disagree with the Christians though, they wanted to voice there opinions and they did, so your saying that no criticism should be allowed, typical liberal

 

[alzan]

Thats because you disagree with the Christians though, they wanted to voice there opinions and they did, so your saying that no criticism should be allowed, typical liberal

And there's another example your typical tactics; re-framing the discussion to attack from a different angle.

I never said I disagreed with the Christians, I said the way in which they chose to voice their message/opinion was specifically to provoke or incite to riot or violence. Nor did I ever say that no criticism should be allowed, I never once bought up criticism in any of my posts.

There are lots of ways to voice a message or an opinion; the way Rubin Israel and his ilk choose to voice theirs speaks volumes about their true intent.

 

[Incorruptible]

And there's another example your typical tactics; re-framing the discussion to attack from a different angle.

I never said I disagreed with the Christians, I said the way in which they chose to voice their message/opinion was specifically to provoke or incite to riot or violence. Nor did I ever say that no criticism should be allowed, I never once bought up criticism in any of my posts.

There are lots of ways to voice a message or an opinion; the way Rubin Israel and his ilk choose to voice theirs speaks volumes about their true intent.

It wasn't to provoke a riot, all that means is the muslims cant tolerate any criticism of there religion, if you criticize Christians most wouldn't do this.

 

[alzan]

It wasn't to provoke a riot, all that means is the muslims cant tolerate any criticism of there religion, if you criticize Christians most wouldn't do this.

Actually what it means is that a few Muslims chose to react in the way that Ruben Israel and his group provoked them to react. There are some Christians in this country that won't tolerate criticism of their religion.

Thank you for admitting that some Christians would react violently to criticism of their religion.

 

[Orignal Earl]

Can you point out on this doll, where the bad Muslim touched you?

 

[Incorruptible]

Actually what it means is that a few Muslims chose to react in the way that Ruben Israel and his group provoked them to react. There are some Christians in this country that won't tolerate criticism of their religion.

Thank you for admitting that some Christians would react violently to criticism of their religion.

No, the muslims should have been peaceful, the police protected the muslims yet had 14 cops pull over the Christians for daring to criticize muslims

I never denied that very few Christians would react violently but they are the minority, is it the same with islam? No!

 

[CitizenKain]

No, the muslims should have been peaceful, the police protected the muslims yet had 14 cops pull over the Christians for daring to criticize muslims

I never denied that very few Christians would react violently but they are the minority, is it the same with islam? No!

So is there a particular reason you capitalize Christian, but not Muslim or Islam? They are proper nouns.

 

[alzan]

No, the muslims should have been peaceful, the police protected the muslims yet had 14 cops pull over the Christians for daring to criticize muslims

I never denied that very few Christians would react violently but they are the minority, is it the same with islam? No!

Actually the police were protecting the Christians who came there to incite the Muslims to riot or violence. The Christians weren't there to convert the Muslims to Christianity, they weren't there to open meaningful dialogue about people of different faiths learning how to live together.

You might want to do a little research: in this country Christians are most definitely not the minority.