Christians Attacked In Michigan!

[MooseNSquirrel]

alzan just covered that one.
But, no doubt in a couple more pages the opportunity will come up again.

Sorry my timing was off :\

 

[StrangerGuy]

Thats been my whole point, they want to kill us all or convert and I have been warning about this the whole time yet people still defend them.

I don't get this either. They are already barbaric to their OWN kind in their home countries yet I shouldn't be afraid of them because some PC nuts told me so based on their twisted cultural double standard? WTF. Even "moderate" Muslims aren't as vocal as the rest of the world denouncing their extremist elements when they should be doing the exact opposite if they are all for peace and tolerance or whatever they want to preach.

 

[Siddhartha]

never mind

 

[alzan]

I don't get this either. They are already barbaric to their OWN kind in their home countries yet I shouldn't be afraid of them because some PC nuts told me so based on their twisted cultural double standard? WTF. Even "moderate" Muslims aren't as vocal as the rest of the world denouncing their extremist elements when they should be doing the exact opposite if they are all for peace and tolerance or whatever they want to preach.

Moderate Muslims not speaking out more vociferously against radical Muslims does not mean that they endorse or condone what the radicals do. Also, the fact is most Muslims living in the West are peaceful and tolerant; what more proof do you need?

A lot of their "non-reaction" could be explained by fear of reprisal, either against the moderates directly or their family or businesses. Remember the enemies of radical Islam are not just Christians, Jews, etc.; Muslims who do not believe exactly what the radicals believe are also enemies and are to be converted or killed.

 

[Incorruptible]

Moderate Muslims not speaking out more vociferously against radical Muslims does not mean that they endorse or condone what the radicals do. Also, the fact is most Muslims living in the West are peaceful and tolerant; what more proof do you need?

A lot of their "non-reaction" could be explained by fear of reprisal, either against the moderates directly or their family or businesses. Remember the enemies of radical Islam are not just Christians, Jews, etc.; Muslims who do not believe exactly what the radicals believe are also enemies and are to be converted or killed.

So if they dont speak then they still dont support it?

By not speaking out its because they dont want to speak out against there brothers

 

[alzan]

So if they dont speak then they still dont support it?

By not speaking out its because they dont want to speak out against there brothers

Perhaps that plays a small part as well. There's probably a "he's an other but he's still Muslim" aspect too. But I know myself, and I imagine a lot of individual Americans would speak out to their family friends and neighbors and/or authorities if they were aware of violent behavior or killings being caused by them.

Also, not all Christians, Jews, etc. decry the actions and words of their own extremists.

 

[Orignal Earl]

So if they dont speak then they still dont support it?

By not speaking out its because they dont want to speak out against there brothers

Try and think back like a couple days ago, when you were lying about no one speaking out.
And then I posted a hundred very prominent Muslim groups speaking out

Maybe you should write down these things, it helps with memory problems

 

[WelshBloke]

I believe RADICAL ISLAM IS A BIG THREAT and I would be one of the first to be taken out if they gain power so I speak out to warn others about whats happening.

The longer this thread goes on the more willing I am to help them.

 

[Incorruptible]

The longer this thread goes on the more willing I am to help them.

Are you actually threatening to kill me, thanks for proving my whole point

 

[Orignal Earl]

Are you actually threatening to kill me, thanks for proving my whole point

Most people get your point.
You want to paint Muslim people with the exact same brush the Nazis used for the Jews

 

[Incorruptible]

Most people get your point.
You want to paint Muslim people with the exact same brush the Nazis used for the Jews

No that's not true, I am against RADICAL MUSLIMS, dont you my remember support for Tarek Fatah, Salman Rushdie and for women being oppressed?

 

[Orignal Earl]

No that's not true, I am against RADICAL MUSLIMS, dont you my remember support for Tarek Fatah, Salman Rushdie and for women being oppressed?

Yes
But you believe 99.99999999% of Muslims are RADICAL
The Nazis had their pet Jews too

 

[WelshBloke]

Are you actually threatening to kill me, thanks for proving my whole point

But I'm not a Muslim though.

 

[SheHateMe]

I don't really care much about this story. Christians seem to be persecuting people more than any other group, I don't have a bleeding heart for any of them.

 

[Incorruptible]

I don't really care much about this story. Christians seem to be persecuting people more than any other group, I don't have a bleeding heart for any of them.

Christianity is the most persecuted religion in the world, just look at what happens to them in the Middle East

 

[zinfamous]

Christianity is the most persecuted religion in the world, just look at what happens to them in the Middle East

put the crack pipe down, pig-head jesus boy.

 

[alzan]

Christianity is the most persecuted religion in the world, just look at what happens to them in the Middle East

You haven't watched much news since 9-11, have you?

Islam in general has long since surpassed Christianity as the most persecuted religion in the world, all because of the actions of a relative few Muslim extremists.

 

[umbrella39]

He's just yet another inane member of the poor me, fragile dwindling scared species of animal called persecuted middle-aged, white, Christian males that thinks they need protection from going extinct because they perceive their white male rights are being eroded... The Internet gives these cry babies voices... yay...

 

[Incorruptible]

You haven't watched much news since 9-11, have you?

Islam in general has long since surpassed Christianity as the most persecuted religion in the world, all because of the actions of a relative few Muslim extremists.

Are muslims being killed because there muslims? Christians are being killed because there Christian, especially in the Middle East, What about Shabaz Bhatii, a Christian minister in Pakistan assassinated because he criticized the blasphemy law?

 

[alzan]

Are muslims being killed because there muslims? Christians are being killed because there Christian, especially in the Middle East, What about Shabaz Bhatii, a Christian minister in Pakistan assassinated because he criticized the blasphemy law?

I think it's unfortunate that he died, he was a fellow human being after all. Nor do I support killing someone just because they believe in a different sky fairy then you. I have somewhat mixed feelings about Christian missionaries in foreign lands, especially hostile ones. While they may be at peace knowing that their immortal soul will be with G-d when their human life ends; it's counter productive to want to minister to as many people as possible by going somewhere where you have a greater chance of being killed. Unless of course they have a martyr complex, then all bets are off.

From a pragmatic point of view; it's probably not a good idea to choose as your mission field a country whose population is mostly Muslim. I mean, just by raw percentage there is a greater chance that you'll run into a radical Muslim who wouldn't bat an eye while pulling out his knife to slit through your carotid artery. Not to mention the fact that by ministering to Christians in a Muslim land they put those peoples lives at risk as well.

But don't get me wrong. I have tremendous respect for Muslims who faithfully follow the teachings of the Quran, while ignoring the rules and guidelines of the hadiths; those mixtures of politics and control which are extremely misogynistic and punitive in nature. I don't respect those who seek to control out of their own fear, jealousy or lust for power. And just as Christian missionaries are being counter productive by going to places where they have a greater chance of being killed, so too are radical Muslims who if they can't convert you will kill you. I mean, if I were a deity; I'd probably want live converts worshiping me as opposed to lost souls who got sent to the Islam equivalent of Hell.

 

[Incorruptible]

I think it's unfortunate that he died, he was a fellow human being after all. Nor do I support killing someone just because they believe in a different sky fairy then you. I have somewhat mixed feelings about Christian missionaries in foreign lands, especially hostile ones. While they may be at peace knowing that their immortal soul will be with G-d when their human life ends; it's counter productive to want to minister to as many people as possible by going somewhere where you have a greater chance of being killed. Unless of course they have a martyr complex, then all bets are off.

He wasn't a minister as a preacher, I meant a minister in the government who was elected


From a pragmatic point of view; it's probably not a good idea to choose as your mission field a country whose population is mostly Muslim. I mean, just by raw percentage there is a greater chance that you'll run into a radical Muslim who wouldn't bat an eye while pulling out his knife to slit through your carotid artery. Not to mention the fact that by ministering to Christians in a Muslim land they put those peoples lives at risk as well.

There are Christians in Pakistan who have been living there for a long time, many of these people cant leave the country, they cant afford it or they have nowhere to go, so there stuck there. Not to mention they dont want to leave behind everything they have worked for

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahbaz_Bhatti

 

[alzan]

There are Christians in Pakistan who have been living there for a long time, many of these people cant leave the country, they cant afford it or they have nowhere to go, so there stuck there. Not to mention they dont want to leave behind everything they have worked for

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahbaz_Bhatti

Well hopefully they too are at peace and know that their soul will be with G-d when they shake off this mortal coil.

 

[shadow9d9]

Christians are the most persecuted in the world? AHAHAHAHAHA. Brilliant!

 

[hal2kilo]

He's just yet another inane member of the poor me, fragile dwindling scared species of animal called persecuted middle-aged, white, Christian males that thinks they need protection from going extinct because they perceive their white male rights are being eroded... The Internet gives these cry babies voices... yay...

This:thumbsup:

 

[Incorruptible]

Christians are the most persecuted in the world? AHAHAHAHAHA. Brilliant!

Here you go

http://www.thestar.com/news/insight...bly-the-most-persecuted-religion-in-the-world