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CrackRabbit

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Oh please. Don't be such an apologist. If it were "normal" then why does it have such a foreign sounding name? Did you know "halal" comes from the combination of "Hamas" and "falafel?" It's true. You can keep your terrorist garbanzo patties and your Muslim animal death squads thank you very much.

I'm not opposed to Islam. I'm opposed to anything that sounds vaguely Islamic. There's a difference.

/sarcasm

Terrorist Felafel?!

That is a great name for a band, and it makes me want to go have Mediterranean food for lunch tomorrow.
I'm just sad the Persian market near my work shut down, they had such good kabob.
 

SheHateMe

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Mediterranean food is delish. I could really go for some De-boned Chicken Breast with Fattoush, Garlic Sauce, Fresh baked Pita Bread, and a chunky Mediterranean salad.

Yes...Im that hungry.
 

WelshBloke

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Guess who is influencing them

Bank manager? Customers? Illuminati ? Hitlers ghost? Secret Jewish cabal that rules the world? Scary bearded Muslim guy who is totally not holding a knife to my throat as Isendhelpnowfortheloveofgodtype this?
 

CrackRabbit

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This is about halal not Kosher

There is no real difference between Kosher slaughter and Halal slaughter.
Both kill the animal in the same method, a cut across the carotid artery, jugular vein, and windpipe then drained of blood.

So yes, this is about Kosher as it is about Halal.
 
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There is no real difference between Kosher slaughter and Halal slaughter.
Both kill the animal in the same method, a cut across the carotid artery, jugular vein, and windpipe then drained of blood.

So yes, this is about Kosher as it is about Halal.

Yes I would be upset if it was kosher or halal

My problem is the radicals are manipulating them to use halal and this is just part of the plan to take over
 

CrackRabbit

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Yes I would be upset if it was kosher or halal

My problem is the radicals are manipulating them to use halal and this is just part of the plan to take over

Have you ever stopped to think, (and I know you haven't) that it is simply capitalism at work?
If you're a butcher in an area that has a sizable Muslim or Jewish population that you could make more money by having your meat be Halal or Kosher?
Your normal customers don't care, it's just meat to them, but now you have a whole new set of customers that wouldn't buy from you before that now can.

No grand conspiracy, no forcing of Sharia on anyone, just money to be made by people that want to.
 
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Have you ever stopped to think, (and I know you haven't) that it is simply capitalism at work?
If you're a butcher in an area that has a sizable Muslim or Jewish population that you could make more money by having your meat be Halal or Kosher?
Your normal customers don't care, it's just meat to them, but now you have a whole new set of customers that wouldn't buy from you before that now can.

No grand conspiracy, no forcing of Sharia on anyone, just money to be made by people that want to.

You make a good point BUT you forget that the radicals are actually forcing them to serve halal as well many of the customers DONT EVEN KNOW ITS HALAL AND WOULDN'T WANT TO EAT IT IF IT WAS THERE BEING LIED TO, WHICH IS THE REAL ISSUE
 

CrackRabbit

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You make a good point BUT you forget that the radicals are actually forcing them to serve halal as well many of the customers DONT EVEN KNOW ITS HALAL AND WOULDN'T WANT TO EAT IT IF IT WAS THERE BEING LIED TO, WHICH IS THE REAL ISSUE

So what is so wrong with Halal that a non Muslim person wouldn't want to eat meat that was butchered/prepared in that way?
Like I said in the other post, to most people meat is meat. I would wager that most don't have a clue how animals are slaughtered anyways.
BTW; "ENGLISH MOTHERFARKER, DO YOU SPEAK IT ?".
 
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woolfe9999

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I see the Islam word thrown around here much like I see the christian word thrown around . Those men were not Christian and those were muslims. Big differance . Whats the earlist known ledgable writing of the Quran ?? Islam/Hebrew same father differant mothers. Looking at the Jews and the muslims it would seem the Jews are what Jews are liars traitor slavers and all around bad guys . Did I mention they also run the worlds money supply.This is why so many here want to protect this bunch of rabble. Were exactly did the Jew name spring from . Ya don't know . Solomon and his son . After Israel broke up and the Hebrew name siezed to exist . There are few Hebrew people in Israel of today . This is a family fued I sugjest we let them fight it out and the winner would be Gods choosen.
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Hey, while some people may be inclined to excuse or ignore the vile things you say because they view you as a harmless crank, I for one am not inclined to give you a pass because you're mentally ill. Psychotic or not, you are responsible for your behavior. I suggest you either get professional help or just keep your disgusting drivel to yourself, you inbred fuck.

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So what is so wrong with Halal that a non Muslim person wouldn't want to eat meat that was butchered/prepared in that way?
Like I said in the other post, to most people meat is meat. I would wager that most don't have a clue how animals are slaughtered anyways.
BTW; "ENGLISH MOTHERFARKER, DO YOU SPEAK IT ?".

I have often eaten Halal meat and kosher-prepared meals. I would never avoid either and I can't come up with a principled, non-discriminatory reason why anyone else would.
 

WelshBloke

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So would you be upset if you ate something that was prepared in a Kosher manner without being told about it?
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This is about halal not Kosher

And the difference between a piece of kosher meat and some halal meat before its prepared is?
 

alzan

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You make a good point BUT you forget that the radicals are actually forcing them to serve halal as well many of the customers DONT EVEN KNOW ITS HALAL AND WOULDN'T WANT TO EAT IT IF IT WAS THERE BEING LIED TO, WHICH IS THE REAL ISSUE

People are being forced? Is this from another non-existent news article that depicts restaurant patrons and school children with curved blades to their throats as they choke down <gasp> halal meat?

So what are you asking for? A notice on restaurant menu's where they serve halal or kosher prepared meat so that people know what they're getting? A letter to all parents in Great Britain & European schools explaining that their children will be served halal and kosher meats, coupled with an explanation of the preparation of halal/kosher meat?

By the way, THE REAL ISSUE IS YOUR ISLAMOPHOBIA, COUPLED WITH YOUR NARCISSISTIC ATTEMPTS TO DRAW ATTENTION TO YOURSELF.

Psychotherapy is your friend.
 

cybrsage

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Its nothing to do with the restaurants, its the slaughterhouse. Basically its cheaper for them to do it this way and they can sell to Jewish and Muslim customers as well.

Kosher is more strict, which is why Muslims know if they buy Kosher they are covered for Halal...but not the other way around.

The rules are close, though, since Islam copied their from Judaism and altered them slightly to say they are the "real" rules.
 

WelshBloke

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Kosher is more strict, which is why Muslims know if they buy Kosher they are covered for Halal...but not the other way around.

The rules are close, though, since Islam copied their from Judaism and altered them slightly to say they are the "real" rules.

At the risk of interjecting some facts into this thread, what is the difference between halal and kosher slaughter?
 

cybrsage

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Yes I would be upset if it was kosher or halal

Have you ever looked at the labels of a vast majority of your food? If you see any of these symbols, you were unknowingly eating Kosher food.



There are others, but those are the predominant ones you will see in the US and Europe. For the Circle-U (Union of Orthodox Jews) you will also see a D for Dairy and a sometimes the word Pareve (no meat or dairy).
 

cybrsage

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At the risk of interjecting some facts into this thread, what is the difference between halal and kosher slaughter?

They are very close, but here are the main differences:

Differences between Halal and Kosher:
1. The Muslim slaughtermen usually pronounce the prayer on each animal at the time of slaughter. The Jewish Rabbi usually pronounce the prayer only once at the beginning of the slaughtering session.
2. In Halal slaughter, the animals may be directed to Qiblah, whereas no such direction during the kosher slaughter
3. In Kosher slaughter, the Rabbis examine the lungs and viscera of the carcass to check for discoloration and scars in these organs. In the Halal slaughter no such exams made and the health issues are usually left to the government officials and/or quality control personnel at the facility. This is why not every Kosher kill passes the approval, usually with an average of 50% or less of the carcasses may qualify for the Kosher stamp.
4. For the meat to be considered Kosher, only the front side of the animal (i.e. beef) is certified Kosher but not the hind quarters, because of the issue of de-vanning. In Halal, all edible meats and offal of the Halal slaughtered carcasses of healthy animals can be labeled Halal.
5. In the Kosher processing the meat is soaked in salt for about two hours then rinsed with water, to remove traces of blood from the meat. In the Halal processing the meat is not soaked in salt because only the flowing blood is prohibited from consumption by Muslims.
http://halaltransactions.org/halal-vs-kosher/

The requirement in Islam to face a direction and to pray prior to the slaughter can be met after the slaughter prior to eating the food. The eater says a prayer facing the correct way. Many do it all the time just to be sure it was done, that way they do not accidently violate the rule.

The blood issue is the big one for Jews - it is much more strict in Kosher than in Halal.

Is Kosher Halal?
Some Muslim authorities allow the consumption of Kosher, especially when Halal is not available, considering the traditions of most schools of thought and following the verse in the Holy Quran:
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&#8220;And today its proclaimed that the Food of the People of the Book are Lawful to You and Your Foods are Lawful to Them&#8221; ( 5:5 ).
Many Muslim scholar, however, say, for one reason or another, that Kosher cannot be a substitute for Halal, and a person may consume Kosher but cannot buy Kosher from the market , label it Halal and sell it to Muslims. Others claim that the drive for prohibition of certification of Kosher is only for political and economic reasons.
Please refer to the Article titled: &#8220;Slaughtering of the People of the Book&#8221; in the Section about Articles.

EDIT: If the meat is cooked to Well Done, Judaism considers the blood all cooked out of it and therefor not a problem. In this instance, a Halal slaughtered steak would be fine to eat.
 
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