You are reading between the lines and characterizing as racist what I see as a socio-economic issue. There are people who do feel we are losing control of the country, and Trump played exactly to that fear.
You are reading between the lines and characterizing as racist what I see as a socio-economic issue. There are people who do feel we are losing control of the country, and Trump played exactly to that fear.Irrelevant given that she by anything else other than a quirk of the EC, ie relatively few votes in some backwater, won the election. Of course someone like obama might've done better, but not necessarily with people who see their white (master) racial identity as motivated by trump > just about everything else.
Instead of drawing ideologically convenient conclusions with very incomplete info, you should look into what the racial resentment surveys ask, and how these people answered. They very much see themselves as losing control over the country, thus the resonance of making american great again.
Eg. they see black people getting some welfare/subsidy, and just can't stand it even though their own handouts are far more lucrative. To be specific if the state gave millions to a thousand inner folks for whatever, you wouldn't get reaction as Trump's Maga carrier deal.
You are reading between the lines and characterizing as racist what I see as a socio-economic issue. There are people who do feel we are losing control of the country, and Trump played exactly to that fear.
They are losing control of the country. And it's a good thing, since their control has brought the country, and first and foremost themselves, nothing but misery. They are the ones who voted for trickle down, and got destroyed by it.
Um, no? The folks they vote for control the House, Senate, soon the Presidency, will appoint the next 3? Supremes, will appoint well over a hundred federal judges, control most state houses and most governorships. The conservatives are firmly in control. Yes, they will screw over their base, but that is what the base wants and they win on that platform.They are losing control of the country. And it's a good thing, since their control has brought the country, and first and foremost themselves, nothing but misery. They are the ones who voted for trickle down, and got destroyed by it.
Um, no? The folks they vote for control the House, Senate, soon the Presidency, will appoint the next 3? Supremes, will appoint well over a hundred federal judges, control most state houses and most governorships. The conservatives are firmly in control. Yes, they will screw over their base, but that is what the base wants and they win on that platform.
I think what he means is that they see a long term decline in their ability to control the government and this is true. I'm pretty sure this is why you see ever more desperate attempts to suppress voters (voter ID), gerrymander districts, cut voting times, etc.
So what control do the Republican voters have? There is basically zero correlation between what they want and the policies implemented by the politicians they support.Um, no? The folks they vote for control the House, Senate, soon the Presidency, will appoint the next 3? Supremes, will appoint well over a hundred federal judges, control most state houses and most governorships. The conservatives are firmly in control. Yes, they will screw over their base, but that is what the base wants and they win on that platform.
Um, no? The folks they vote for control the House, Senate, soon the Presidency, will appoint the next 3? Supremes, will appoint well over a hundred federal judges, control most state houses and most governorships. The conservatives are firmly in control. Yes, they will screw over their base, but that is what the base wants and they win on that platform.
Oh his followers here see it, too, they just don't care. This's been pointed out numerous times and nobody's every bothered to refute it with anything.
Yeah, it's pretty revealing that all the trumpsters & pals who were all over hyping how damaging the emails were are silent now. They knew what they were doing.
Everyone here can see what's going on (well, except the dummies who actually believe "both sides equally bad"), and judge the integrity of people who praise Jesus and back Trump.
It's a pretty reasonable position. I'm looking forward to a full bipartisan investigation to make an evaluation.So are we getting sources who are willing to be named or still anonymous sources?
I'm skeptical until people come forward and identify themselves while saying it.
but hey that's just me I guess.
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When I lived in Europe for many years, I found two things rather striking relative to America. The first was the merits of democratic socialism, and I gained a real appreciation for the unifying benefits of government service and the enhanced quality of life that comes from a functional productive government. I also found it striking the homogenous "whiteness" of European societies relative to America, at least at the time.No, it's the guy who doesn't care for what actual research is studying or shows who's reading between the lines. And to be fair, it does say they're losing control of the country, to minorities; that's literally what the surveys reveal, that many believe whites are losing their status/position in society. Gotta make merica great again.
I'm looking forward to Repub congress critters trying to whitewash the whole thing by discrediting our own intelligence agencies. That's real patriotism.It's a pretty reasonable position. I'm looking forward to a full bipartisan investigation to make an evaluation.
I see the world as empirical evidence shows it, not as I wish it to be; and it shows many people in the world as rather simplistic, which should come as no surprise given the trite msg that resonated with them. Empiricism shouldn't be a revelation to someone who supposedly does engineering for a living.When I lived in Europe for many years, I found two things rather striking relative to America. The first was the merits of democratic socialism, and I gained a real appreciation for the unifying benefits of government service and the enhanced quality of life that comes from a functional productive government. I also found it striking the homogenous "whiteness" of European societies relative to America, at least at the time.
For better or worse, globalism is changing many things. You perceive that transformation in the simplistic terms of race, becaue that it a convenient way to frame any societal problem, and also shutdown any discussion relative to it that challenges your binary world of us and them, or white and brown.
I see it in the terms of cultural identity.
I look forward to when the GOP is a relic of the past and the Democrat coalition turns on itself. You worry about white privilege, white welfare and white nationalist racism? That pales in comparison to the tribalism that is yet to come.
LOL, so, that's a 'Cannot provide examples' I take it? Poor Lefties...
Repub voters really have no idea what they've done. Some never will.
This little inequality problem of ours? You ain't seen nuthin' yet.
Not surprising someone like you can't admit the basic fact that the same people who're trying to pretend the emails had no effect were just pretending what great revelations they were just before the election. You don't come off as that stupid so I'll charitably assume you can figure out why they're so dishonest.
I suspect it provides some solace to believe they're stupid rather than malicious.
He's more honest than the rest about america as a white country.Chucky is willfully blind. It's how he maintains his world view.
Not stupid. Beguiled by the best propagandists in the business.
Trump comes from the development market of NY, where to be successful, it requires boldness, arrogance and stepping on toes. It is not a world that lends itself to nuance.I see the world as empirical evidence shows it, not as I wish it to be; and it shows many people in the world as rather simplistic, which should come as no surprise given the trite msg that resonated with them. Empiricism shouldn't be a revelation to someone who supposedly does engineering for a living.
Cultural identity is predominantly racial in the US; again no great surprise with much knowledge of its history. Also again quite understandable why some wish to hide that great embarrassment.
Trump comes from established money where a spoiled brat does anything he wants.Trump comes from the development market of NY, where to be successful, it requires boldness, arrogance and stepping on toes. It is not a world that lends itself to nuance.
No, hating on this and that minority gets white nationalist crowds riled up, same as all previous and current ethnofascists in that vein.In recent years there have been a few high profile cases of criminals, deported numerous times, eventually coming back only to rape or kill someone. The liberal response always seems to express more concern for the race of the criminal than the fate of the victim. It's a complex multifaceted issue, but complex multifaced answers don't win elections. However, for people frustrated with the status quo, "all Mexicans are rapists" is about as bold as you can get.
In the face of the madness of amnesty, open borders and sanctuary cities, building a wall sounds reasonable.
First, it's a given that actual facts don't matter to the sort he appeals to, incl. whether there's a wall or its height.In a world of increased attacks by Islamic fundamentalists, keeping them all out and extreme vetting sounds like a good plan. It's too complicated to explain to Americans that our foreign policy blunders are largely to blame for it.
Now, because I understand Trump's world, I also know he is not going to deliver on any of it.
You mentioned empirical evidence. That requires a controlled experiment with known measurable variables and quantifiable observable results.
While you are measuring shit in test tubes, Trump is setting off baking soda volcano simulations. Who is going to get more attention?
most of the posts missed an important reason for democrat defeat - obamacare (ACA).
why the costs keep on increasing 3x ($260 two/three years ($292 including dental) ago to $840 (no dental) now) - it didn't turn out as it was promised.
many people here [in this forum] probably get insurance through work and don't care/realize this, but among people who need this - this was vital.
ps. I live in a state where my vote doesn't matter.
This is a fundamental misunderstanding due to your ignorance about what the law actually contains. There is very little in the law that influences the price of medical care. In fact, the price of medical care in the US has been rocketing up for decades. Conservative media has been telling you that the price increases you are seeing now are due to the ACA but anyone with two brain cells to rub together realizes that is bullshit. The inflation has actually slowed down a tiny bit since the implementation of the ACA.most of the posts missed an important reason for democrat defeat - obamacare (ACA).
why the costs keep on increasing 3x ($260 two/three years ($292 including dental) ago to $840 (no dental) now) - it didn't turn out as it was promised.
many people here [in this forum] probably get insurance through work and don't care/realize this, but among people who need this - this was vital.
ps. I live in a state where my vote doesn't matter.