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cubby1223

Lifer
May 24, 2004
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Originally posted by: purbeast0
Originally posted by: Fritzo
Originally posted by: purbeast0
Originally posted by: Amused
The sense of entitlement in this country is simply amazing.
Heh I agree with this. It's like how you have American's complaining about the illegals "stealing" their jobs, when in reality, they are doing jobs that Americans are too fvcking lazy to do for the pay they would be receiving.
How about "too fvcking educated". Why the hell would someone want a $10/hr job when hey have a B.S. or a Masters degree? Those jobs were designed for teenagers or unmarried "40 year old virgin" types.
I'm not talking about the people who have BS degrees complaining about it, I'm talking about the people who think they are too good to work at fast food and would rather collect welfare than do so.

Now if you have a BS and can't find a job, then you are just flat out dumb
That's not what you said. Illegal immigrants take jobs for less pay than what welfare provides. Like the ones who do lawncare work for seriously $1, maybe $2 per hour if they're lucky enough.

Why should anyone anywhere be content to work full time and still be in terrible poverty?
 

Ronstang

Lifer
Jul 8, 2000
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Originally posted by: cubby1223

That's not what you said. Illegal immigrants take jobs for less pay than what welfare provides. Like the ones who do lawncare work for seriously $1, maybe $2 per hour if they're lucky enough.

Why should anyone anywhere be content to work full time and still be in terrible poverty?

If you honestly think that illegal immigrants work for $1 or $2 an hour in the USA you are severely deluded.

 

shilala

Lifer
Oct 5, 2004
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Originally posted by: cubby1223
Originally posted by: purbeast0
Originally posted by: Fritzo
Originally posted by: purbeast0
Originally posted by: Amused
The sense of entitlement in this country is simply amazing.
Heh I agree with this. It's like how you have American's complaining about the illegals "stealing" their jobs, when in reality, they are doing jobs that Americans are too fvcking lazy to do for the pay they would be receiving.
How about "too fvcking educated". Why the hell would someone want a $10/hr job when hey have a B.S. or a Masters degree? Those jobs were designed for teenagers or unmarried "40 year old virgin" types.
I'm not talking about the people who have BS degrees complaining about it, I'm talking about the people who think they are too good to work at fast food and would rather collect welfare than do so.

Now if you have a BS and can't find a job, then you are just flat out dumb
That's not what you said. Illegal immigrants take jobs for less pay than what welfare provides. Like the ones who do lawncare work for seriously $1, maybe $2 per hour if they're lucky enough.

Why should anyone anywhere be content to work full time and still be in terrible poverty?
Because it's the republican way, cubby. They should like it, too. And be thankful for it.
 

PingSpike

Lifer
Feb 25, 2004
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Originally posted by: Cuda1447
CHARITY? Those employees made Circuit City a HELL of a lot more money by selling their crazy ass warranties and badgering customers to let CC install their antivirus software for 30 bucks.

You are confusing charity with 'treating employees well'

Wow, you really make those guys sound like heroes. Who am I suppose to feel sorry for again?
 

PingSpike

Lifer
Feb 25, 2004
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Originally posted by: spacejamz
Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Story


I worked at Circuit ****** for 3 1/2 years (thank god I quit). I had a bunch of friends that used to work there, but most of them lost their job today. This just shows what kind of company Circuit City is. Its easy to say from an outsiders point of view that the company needed to cut costs etc... but you need to realize some of these people busted their ass for Circuit ****** for many years, and got nothing in return but "sorry, you're fired".

Not to mention, look at what they pay the CEO and other Exec's their.

Its horrible, sometimes I really hate big buisness. Always out to make a profit and not give a damn about their employees OR their customers.

so what exactly is your solution to this problem of Circuit City bleeding money? and what would you do if this was your company??

I'd borrow some money from my dad, and then open a bikini car wash in front of the store.
 

Electric Amish

Elite Member
Oct 11, 1999
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Circuit City fired 3,400 employees in stores across the country yesterday, saying they were making too much money and would be replaced by new hires willing to work for less.


That's really kinda crappy.
 

IGBT

Lifer
Jul 16, 2001
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..their business may be on the ropes and this was done out of desperation. time will tell.
 

JD50

Lifer
Sep 4, 2005
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Originally posted by: shilala
Originally posted by: cubby1223
Originally posted by: purbeast0
Originally posted by: Fritzo
Originally posted by: purbeast0
Originally posted by: Amused
The sense of entitlement in this country is simply amazing.
Heh I agree with this. It's like how you have American's complaining about the illegals "stealing" their jobs, when in reality, they are doing jobs that Americans are too fvcking lazy to do for the pay they would be receiving.
How about "too fvcking educated". Why the hell would someone want a $10/hr job when hey have a B.S. or a Masters degree? Those jobs were designed for teenagers or unmarried "40 year old virgin" types.
I'm not talking about the people who have BS degrees complaining about it, I'm talking about the people who think they are too good to work at fast food and would rather collect welfare than do so.

Now if you have a BS and can't find a job, then you are just flat out dumb
That's not what you said. Illegal immigrants take jobs for less pay than what welfare provides. Like the ones who do lawncare work for seriously $1, maybe $2 per hour if they're lucky enough.

Why should anyone anywhere be content to work full time and still be in terrible poverty?
Because it's the republican way, cubby. They should like it, too. And be thankful for it.

So is it the Democrat way to make up BS numbers about how much someone is getting paid?

 

iversonyin

Diamond Member
Aug 12, 2004
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Originally posted by: IGBT
..their business may be on the ropes and this was done out of desperation. time will tell.

CC is done because BB came in and took over.

BB>CC
 

nweaver

Diamond Member
Jan 21, 2001
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Originally posted by: thepd7
Originally posted by: cubby1223
Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Always out to make a profit and not give a damn about their employees OR their customers.
Why should they give a damn about their customers? The customers don't give a damn about Circuit City. It's the customers who will use the Circuit City store and staff to research the products, then purchase the product from a website for a $5 savings. It's the customers who go out of their way to abuse Circuit City's price-matching policy. Going even further, it's the customers who when they have a defective product purchased from the internet, will purchase the same product from Circuit City, switch items, and make Circuit City give them the refund. It happens.

Bottom line is good service and caring for customers costs money - money that customers will not pay in this new millennium.

You are so right and it is so wrong.
There was a time when people would pay more for customer service, great attitudes, and that good feeling of knowing they won't sell you something you don't need. Sadly, that day is gone. If someone can save $50 on a $1000 TV they will buy wherever is cheapest not whoever they liked the most. Very, very sad to see this happening since it hurts hard-working small business owners.

I spend extra for good CS....Les Swab Tires is a perfect example. They are unbelievable when it comes to customer service.

They also take great care of the employees though. After one year, you get a (large) profit sharing bonus each year. The company is owned by a family, and they have a set of expenses for their family, a set of expenses for business and expansion. Everything else gets pooled and given to the employees. Hmm....maybe there is a tie there, ya think?
 

PingSpike

Lifer
Feb 25, 2004
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Originally posted by: thepd7
Originally posted by: cubby1223
Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Always out to make a profit and not give a damn about their employees OR their customers.
Why should they give a damn about their customers? The customers don't give a damn about Circuit City. It's the customers who will use the Circuit City store and staff to research the products, then purchase the product from a website for a $5 savings. It's the customers who go out of their way to abuse Circuit City's price-matching policy. Going even further, it's the customers who when they have a defective product purchased from the internet, will purchase the same product from Circuit City, switch items, and make Circuit City give them the refund. It happens.

Bottom line is good service and caring for customers costs money - money that customers will not pay in this new millennium.

You are so right and it is so wrong.
There was a time when people would pay more for customer service, great attitudes, and that good feeling of knowing they won't sell you something you don't need. Sadly, that day is gone. If someone can save $50 on a $1000 TV they will buy wherever is cheapest not whoever they liked the most. Very, very sad to see this happening since it hurts hard-working small business owners.

Thats because customer service sucks everywhere, so I might as well save $50.

But seriously, I don't really think thats totally true. Its more like people don't need top notch service when buying a CD. I bought my monitor at costco even though it cost more because they have a good return policy and I hate dead pixels. Newegg is doing so well in the brave new world of online businesses because...they have good service! Their website makes it easy to find things and the reps are decent in my experience. I usually end up buying from them even when they aren't the cheapest because I know I won't get screwed at the old egg.
 

beer

Lifer
Jun 27, 2000
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Why are people here defending BB and yet there are dozens of other threads talking about how bad the BB sucks?



Electronics aren't a huge part of my life, but I go to Fry's if I need something. The original fry's is about 5min down the street from me....
 

PingSpike

Lifer
Feb 25, 2004
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Originally posted by: beer
Why are people here defending BB and yet there are dozens of other threads talking about how bad the BB sucks?



Electronics aren't a huge part of my life, but I go to Fry's if I need something. The original fry's is about 5min down the street from me....

Yeah, I didn't really get that myself. Is BB better then CC? They're both sh|t pits IMO, same warentee crap. I will occasionally go in there...if some one gives me a gift card, or I want to look at something in person before buying it on the internets.
 

BarneyFife

Diamond Member
Aug 12, 2001
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Originally posted by: beer
Why are people here defending BB and yet there are dozens of other threads talking about how bad the BB sucks?



Electronics aren't a huge part of my life, but I go to Fry's if I need something. The original fry's is about 5min down the street from me....


Circuit City was awesome in the 90's. They actually had salesmen that knew their product and managers would always cut you deal with the price. The downhill started in around 2001 when they went from commission to hourly.
 

PingSpike

Lifer
Feb 25, 2004
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Originally posted by: BarneyFife
Originally posted by: beer
Why are people here defending BB and yet there are dozens of other threads talking about how bad the BB sucks?



Electronics aren't a huge part of my life, but I go to Fry's if I need something. The original fry's is about 5min down the street from me....


Circuit City was awesome in the 90's. They actually had salesmen that knew their product and managers would always cut you deal with the price. The downhill started in around 2001 when they went from commission to hourly.

I remember going in there in the mid-ninties. I was a teenager so they wouldn't even talk to me when I wanted to buy a computer game. Then when my dad went to buy a cheap VCR they had advertised, they gave him a bunch of sh|t and told him he needed a DVD player. My dad just wanted to record J.A.G. after he went to bed. DVD players can't record. He ended up buying the VCR at walmart.
 

miniMUNCH

Diamond Member
Nov 16, 2000
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Busting your ass in retail to "get ahead" is often a complete waste of time.

Better off learning a trade or craft (welding, electrical, etc.).
 

bcterps

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Aug 31, 2000
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The stupid thing that CC did was simply eliminate people based on salary grades, with no thought to whether those people were worth the salary. Basically they took all the jobs and put a fixed salary grade for that position, if you were making more than the top level of that grade, you were fired. On the surface that might make fiscal sense, but it's quite possible that those people were also the top sales people. My guess is they felt it was unskilled labor and it was easier to just hire or rehire people instead of actually evaluating them.
 

lupi

Lifer
Apr 8, 2001
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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: shilala
Originally posted by: Amused
The sense of entitlement in this country is simply amazing.
Not nearly as amazing as the nonsense of "global economy".

Why is a global economy nonsense? The world is getting smaller all the time. If we don't participate in global trade, we'll be left far behind. Protectionism ALWAYS fails.

Life is not "fair." Get used to that and do it quick, or you'll spend the rest of your life unsuccessful and bitter.

Then get rid of all tarifs and subsidies.
 

Legendary

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Jan 22, 2002
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This thread has it all, even a dmcowen prediction of the end times! I'm glad I clicked into this one.
 

Hav0k99

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Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Story


I worked at Circuit ****** for 3 1/2 years (thank god I quit). I had a bunch of friends that used to work there, but most of them lost their job today. This just shows what kind of company Circuit City is. Its easy to say from an outsiders point of view that the company needed to cut costs etc... but you need to realize some of these people busted their ass for Circuit ****** for many years, and got nothing in return but "sorry, you're fired".

Not to mention, look at what they pay the CEO and other Exec's their.


Ummm you mean laid off. There is a difference.

Its horrible, sometimes I really hate big buisness. Always out to make a profit and not give a damn about their employees OR their customers.

 

intogamer

Lifer
Dec 5, 2004
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This is a very bad business model. Circuit City will die because no one will be willing to work for them.
 

iversonyin

Diamond Member
Aug 12, 2004
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Originally posted by: intogamer
This is a very bad business model. Circuit City will die because no one will be willing to work for them.

Frys will be the new CC and BB will take the rest of the market share in the time being. Its funny to think how BestBuy founders name their company...
 

Injury

Lifer
Jul 19, 2004
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Originally posted by: shilala
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: shilala
Originally posted by: Amused
The sense of entitlement in this country is simply amazing.
Not nearly as amazing as the nonsense of "global economy".

Why is a global economy nonsense? The world is getting smaller all the time. If we don't participate in global trade, we'll be left far behind. Protectionism ALWAYS fails.

Life is not "fair." Get used to that and do it quick, or you'll spend the rest of your life unsuccessful and bitter.
Maybe I'm old school, but my father always said "Son, take care of you and yours first. Then do whatever you can for others."
Supporting Japan, Germany, China, India, or Indonesia is not taking care of me and mine.
I'm not making a "right or wrong" argument. All I know is that if I am supporting the Japanese economy rather than my own, I should be looking for a job in Japan. Simply because Japan is going to be able to make jobs available by virtue of the fact that I've given them my money.
As our money goes overseas, so do our jobs. Strange coincidence there.
There's a balance to global trade that we as a country have not found. It's stems directly from the entitlement, me, me, me attitude you mentioned.
"I want what I want and I want it now, and I want it at the lowest price at any cost."
That's the same selfishness as entitlement.
And it's killing us.

Protecting our interests makes perfectly good sense.
We buy wheat gluten from China at a lower price than we can buy wheat gluten in the United States. That's despite the fact that we pay farmers not to plant crops, and have wheat rotten in silos all over the midwest. We spend millions to bail farmers out.
How does that make sense?
How is it conscienable to allow our our own brothers to be beat when we don't hold other countries to the same standards that we impose on ourselves?
It isn't even silly, it's retarded.
And it sure as hell isn't right.

The whole ideal of "global economy" is warping our youngest and brightest minds. And it's an easy sell when they already think that "they're going to get what they deserve" because of the entitlement attitude.

Do you know what bore the entitlement attitude and why it's so prevalent in today's society?

The irony of your post is that this thread was about Circuit City taking care of themselves and their remaining employees first (and going on to still give their noe ex-employees a severance package of sorts).

Admittedly I don't know much about the economy, but I know America is collasping under it's own desire to get rich with minimal work. We will slit our neighbor's throat to put an extra buck in our pocket, but we bitch when someone turns around and does the same to us.

You want to keep jobs back in America? Fine. Put out the quality to cost comparison that China does. If they can do it for half the cost and make it just as good or better what reason do we have to NOT buy from them? I don't see how anyone can live in a capitalist economy and not understand that. It's no different than you or me going to one store over another because the prices are better or a certain sale is going on. You want the right to complain about work going overseas? Then start buying American-made goods and only at full-retail price. It'd be quite hypocritical to complain that the people companies are paying money to are the ones that do it cheaper when you can't even practice that yourself, isn't it?

You want better prices on the things you buy? Fine. Don't complain about how companies do it if you aren't benefitting from the cheaper labor, too. You can't have high paying jobs AND low cost goods in a country. It just doesn't work that way.
 

senseamp

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Feb 5, 2006
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There is CC next to the supermarket I go to, and I haven't been inside yet.
One more reason to not go in.
 
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