City completely bans smoking

[daveshel]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Todd33

Originally posted by: forfor

Originally posted by: Todd33
Until you can PROVE that an occasional wiff of pesticide is harming you, kindly BUZZ OFF. No harm, no foul.
Until you can PROVE that an occasional wiff of polonium is harming you, kindly BUZZ OFF. No harm, no foul.
Until you can PROVE that an occasional wiff of rat killer is harming you, kindly BUZZ OFF. No harm, no foul.

I don't have to prove a thing, the ingredients are lethal, you have no right to poison others. Smoke in your house and kill yourself.

How does it poison you when I smoke in a park?

What a stupid question. If you can smell the smoke, then you are inhaling it. Kids play at parks, does smoking cause retardation?

Are you somehow trying to argue that one whiff of cigarette smoke OUTSIDE is lethal? Good luck with that.

It isn't that much of a stretch: if you can smell it, it is entering your system. Some people, myself included, who have respiratory defects, suffer immediate effects in the form of asthma attacks and breathing difficulties. Others have long-term effects like emphysema and cancer. Just because you are out of doors does not negate these effects - it might lessen the chance of exposure, depending on the air currents, but that is the only difference.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: daveshel

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Todd33

Originally posted by: forfor

Originally posted by: Todd33
Until you can PROVE that an occasional wiff of pesticide is harming you, kindly BUZZ OFF. No harm, no foul.
Until you can PROVE that an occasional wiff of polonium is harming you, kindly BUZZ OFF. No harm, no foul.
Until you can PROVE that an occasional wiff of rat killer is harming you, kindly BUZZ OFF. No harm, no foul.

I don't have to prove a thing, the ingredients are lethal, you have no right to poison others. Smoke in your house and kill yourself.

How does it poison you when I smoke in a park?

What a stupid question. If you can smell the smoke, then you are inhaling it. Kids play at parks, does smoking cause retardation?

Are you somehow trying to argue that one whiff of cigarette smoke OUTSIDE is lethal? Good luck with that.

It isn't that much of a stretch: if you can smell it, it is entering your system. Some people, myself included, who have respiratory defects, suffer immediate effects in the form of asthma attacks and breathing difficulties. Others have long-term effects like emphysema and cancer. Just because you are out of doors does not negate these effects - it might lessen the chance of exposure, depending on the air currents, but that is the only difference.

Sorry, but medical science (for all its well-placed hatred of smoking) does not support your argument. No one has ever died from a single whiff of tobacco smoke, much less even suffered any long-term consequences.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: Todd33

Originally posted by: forfor

Originally posted by: Todd33
Until you can PROVE that an occasional wiff of pesticide is harming you, kindly BUZZ OFF. No harm, no foul.
Until you can PROVE that an occasional wiff of polonium is harming you, kindly BUZZ OFF. No harm, no foul.
Until you can PROVE that an occasional wiff of rat killer is harming you, kindly BUZZ OFF. No harm, no foul.

I don't have to prove a thing, the ingredients are lethal, you have no right to poison others. Smoke in your house and kill yourself.

How does it poison you when I smoke in a park?

What a stupid question. If you can smell the smoke, then you are inhaling it. Kids play at parks, does smoking cause retardation?

I smelll smoke, smoke AND mirrors. Prove you assertion that an occasional wiff harms anybody.... or perhaps your all huff but no puff?

 

[daveshel]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: daveshel

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Todd33

Originally posted by: forfor

Originally posted by: Todd33
Until you can PROVE that an occasional wiff of pesticide is harming you, kindly BUZZ OFF. No harm, no foul.
Until you can PROVE that an occasional wiff of polonium is harming you, kindly BUZZ OFF. No harm, no foul.
Until you can PROVE that an occasional wiff of rat killer is harming you, kindly BUZZ OFF. No harm, no foul.

I don't have to prove a thing, the ingredients are lethal, you have no right to poison others. Smoke in your house and kill yourself.

How does it poison you when I smoke in a park?

What a stupid question. If you can smell the smoke, then you are inhaling it. Kids play at parks, does smoking cause retardation?

Are you somehow trying to argue that one whiff of cigarette smoke OUTSIDE is lethal? Good luck with that.

It isn't that much of a stretch: if you can smell it, it is entering your system. Some people, myself included, who have respiratory defects, suffer immediate effects in the form of asthma attacks and breathing difficulties. Others have long-term effects like emphysema and cancer. Just because you are out of doors does not negate these effects - it might lessen the chance of exposure, depending on the air currents, but that is the only difference.

Sorry, but medical science (for all its well-placed hatred of smoking) does not support your argument. No one has ever died from a single whiff of tobacco smoke, much less even suffered any long-term consequences.

I don't need support from medical to know that when smoke enters my lungs I cannot draw a breath - it is like somebody is standing on my chest. What more do you need?

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: daveshel

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: daveshel

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Todd33

Originally posted by: forfor

Originally posted by: Todd33
Until you can PROVE that an occasional wiff of pesticide is harming you, kindly BUZZ OFF. No harm, no foul.
Until you can PROVE that an occasional wiff of polonium is harming you, kindly BUZZ OFF. No harm, no foul.
Until you can PROVE that an occasional wiff of rat killer is harming you, kindly BUZZ OFF. No harm, no foul.

I don't have to prove a thing, the ingredients are lethal, you have no right to poison others. Smoke in your house and kill yourself.

How does it poison you when I smoke in a park?

What a stupid question. If you can smell the smoke, then you are inhaling it. Kids play at parks, does smoking cause retardation?

Are you somehow trying to argue that one whiff of cigarette smoke OUTSIDE is lethal? Good luck with that.

It isn't that much of a stretch: if you can smell it, it is entering your system. Some people, myself included, who have respiratory defects, suffer immediate effects in the form of asthma attacks and breathing difficulties. Others have long-term effects like emphysema and cancer. Just because you are out of doors does not negate these effects - it might lessen the chance of exposure, depending on the air currents, but that is the only difference.

Sorry, but medical science (for all its well-placed hatred of smoking) does not support your argument. No one has ever died from a single whiff of tobacco smoke, much less even suffered any long-term consequences.

I don't need support from medical to know that when smoke enters my lungs I cannot draw a breath - it is like somebody is standing on my chest. What more do you need?

I just need to quote this, that's all.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: daveshel

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: daveshel

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Todd33

Originally posted by: forfor

Originally posted by: Todd33
Until you can PROVE that an occasional wiff of pesticide is harming you, kindly BUZZ OFF. No harm, no foul.
Until you can PROVE that an occasional wiff of polonium is harming you, kindly BUZZ OFF. No harm, no foul.
Until you can PROVE that an occasional wiff of rat killer is harming you, kindly BUZZ OFF. No harm, no foul.

I don't have to prove a thing, the ingredients are lethal, you have no right to poison others. Smoke in your house and kill yourself.

How does it poison you when I smoke in a park?

What a stupid question. If you can smell the smoke, then you are inhaling it. Kids play at parks, does smoking cause retardation?

Are you somehow trying to argue that one whiff of cigarette smoke OUTSIDE is lethal? Good luck with that.

It isn't that much of a stretch: if you can smell it, it is entering your system. Some people, myself included, who have respiratory defects, suffer immediate effects in the form of asthma attacks and breathing difficulties. Others have long-term effects like emphysema and cancer. Just because you are out of doors does not negate these effects - it might lessen the chance of exposure, depending on the air currents, but that is the only difference.

Sorry, but medical science (for all its well-placed hatred of smoking) does not support your argument. No one has ever died from a single whiff of tobacco smoke, much less even suffered any long-term consequences.

I don't need support from medical to know that when smoke enters my lungs I cannot draw a breath - it is like somebody is standing on my chest. What more do you need?

If your really and truly in that bad of shape you should stay in the house with the windows closed and an air filter/conditioner running.

 

[daveshel]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: daveshel

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: daveshel

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Todd33

Originally posted by: forfor

Originally posted by: Todd33
Until you can PROVE that an occasional wiff of pesticide is harming you, kindly BUZZ OFF. No harm, no foul.
Until you can PROVE that an occasional wiff of polonium is harming you, kindly BUZZ OFF. No harm, no foul.
Until you can PROVE that an occasional wiff of rat killer is harming you, kindly BUZZ OFF. No harm, no foul.

I don't have to prove a thing, the ingredients are lethal, you have no right to poison others. Smoke in your house and kill yourself.

How does it poison you when I smoke in a park?

What a stupid question. If you can smell the smoke, then you are inhaling it. Kids play at parks, does smoking cause retardation?

Are you somehow trying to argue that one whiff of cigarette smoke OUTSIDE is lethal? Good luck with that.

It isn't that much of a stretch: if you can smell it, it is entering your system. Some people, myself included, who have respiratory defects, suffer immediate effects in the form of asthma attacks and breathing difficulties. Others have long-term effects like emphysema and cancer. Just because you are out of doors does not negate these effects - it might lessen the chance of exposure, depending on the air currents, but that is the only difference.

Sorry, but medical science (for all its well-placed hatred of smoking) does not support your argument. No one has ever died from a single whiff of tobacco smoke, much less even suffered any long-term consequences.

I don't need support from medical to know that when smoke enters my lungs I cannot draw a breath - it is like somebody is standing on my chest. What more do you need?

If your really and truly in that bad of shape you should stay in the house with the windows closed and an air filter/conditioner running.

I'm in good physical condition. I work out 3 times a week and hike in the mountains on the weekend. The only thing that affects me is tobacco smoke. Tobacco smoke is known by the medical community to have no medical use nor any safe threshold. So you are telling me that I need to live in a bubble so that others can feed their jones in public? Now that is a stretch.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: daveshel
I'm in good physical condition. I work out 3 times a week and hike in the mountains on the weekend. The only thing that affects me is tobacco smoke. Tobacco smoke is known by the medical community to have no medical use nor any safe threshold.

So you are telling me that I need to live in a bubble so that others can feed their jones in public?

Now that is a stretch.

That's the Elitist's that have taken over the Country for the last six years for ya. Enjoy

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: daveshel

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: daveshel

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: daveshel

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Todd33

Originally posted by: forfor

Originally posted by: Todd33
Until you can PROVE that an occasional wiff of pesticide is harming you, kindly BUZZ OFF. No harm, no foul.
Until you can PROVE that an occasional wiff of polonium is harming you, kindly BUZZ OFF. No harm, no foul.
Until you can PROVE that an occasional wiff of rat killer is harming you, kindly BUZZ OFF. No harm, no foul.

I don't have to prove a thing, the ingredients are lethal, you have no right to poison others. Smoke in your house and kill yourself.

How does it poison you when I smoke in a park?

What a stupid question. If you can smell the smoke, then you are inhaling it. Kids play at parks, does smoking cause retardation?

Are you somehow trying to argue that one whiff of cigarette smoke OUTSIDE is lethal? Good luck with that.

It isn't that much of a stretch: if you can smell it, it is entering your system. Some people, myself included, who have respiratory defects, suffer immediate effects in the form of asthma attacks and breathing difficulties. Others have long-term effects like emphysema and cancer. Just because you are out of doors does not negate these effects - it might lessen the chance of exposure, depending on the air currents, but that is the only difference.

Sorry, but medical science (for all its well-placed hatred of smoking) does not support your argument. No one has ever died from a single whiff of tobacco smoke, much less even suffered any long-term consequences.

I don't need support from medical to know that when smoke enters my lungs I cannot draw a breath - it is like somebody is standing on my chest. What more do you need?

If your really and truly in that bad of shape you should stay in the house with the windows closed and an air filter/conditioner running.

I'm in good physical condition. I work out 3 times a week and hike in the mountains on the weekend. The only thing that affects me is tobacco smoke. Tobacco smoke is known by the medical community to have no medical use nor any safe threshold. So you are telling me that I need to live in a bubble so that others can feed their jones in public? Now that is a stretch.

I'm telling you that I don't believe a single word your saying in regards to what one wiff of tobacco physically does to you. It sounds more like a mental problem to me.

If my smoking in my yard bothers you, then either put up a big, tall fence, stay inside when I'm outside, or move instead of supporting some unconstitutional law restriciting my right to the pursuit of happiness.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: ebaycj

Originally posted by: daveshel
Excellent. Simply removing smoking from buildings is not an acceptable solution if the smokers do their thing right outside the door or near a window. I have a neighbor whose parents make him smoke outside, but I can't have a window open on that side of the house without getting an asthma attack.

Cry me a fvcking river.

No crap!!

 

[yllus]

Hopefully alcohol is next. Or something else that's near and dear to you pro-nannyism folks.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: yllus
Hopefully alcohol is next. Or something else that's near and dear to you pro-nannyism folks.

LOL, I know how to make my own alcohol, but I don't live in the right climate to grow my own tobacco.

I'll probably be quitting anyway, my state passed a new $1.00/pack tax on ciggies. Now that's how you get people to quit, just price them out of the market. I seriously hope enough people quit to make the state come up with a new tax to replace the lost income.

 

[yllus]

Up here, when the price of cigs skyrocketed (it's way higher than down there) people just turn to the Indian reservations and buy a truckload at a time. Way to lose tax revenue and accomplish nothing, government.

 

[ayabe]

Originally posted by: yllus
Hopefully alcohol is next. Or something else that's near and dear to you pro-nannyism folks.

Yeah Coke might be next, since sugary caffeinated drinks have little societal value, and they make kids diabetic! Ahh the horror!

The State will mandate that everyone become an Emo wuss and drink only Redbull, Nintendo controller belt buckles will be mandatory.

 

[compuwiz1]

This is idiotic. Smoking indoors is much more harmful to other people, as well as pets, and to the smoker, as well.

Some of these types of people are coming into the casino where I live, and wearing those dust mask type things, then bitching at other patrons for smoking, when they are in a smoking establishment, that has a non smoking area. WTF! If they don't like it, they don't need to be in the smoking section. :|