Civic beats a Ferrari!!!

[Pacfanweb]

<<but it can crank out 10.418@141.68. not bad eh? >>

No it's not, but that must be with quite a bit of wheel spin. That MPH doesn't come anywhere close to matching up with the ET.

<<I don't think the credit IS due b/c the car is useless for anything but driving in a straight line. >>

Which is where 99.9 of all street races occur, regardless of how much distance they cover.
So you're basically saying here that if the Civic could also run circles around the Ferrari on a road course the credit WOULD be due? It would still be a Civic. I guarantee if I were the Civic owner, I'd still rather have the Ferrari.
I'd like to give credit to the (non)-driver of the Ferrari for actually bringing it out and running it, unlike most exotic car owners.

<<Going Straight fast is exciting if you are in a Dragster. It's not that much of an adreneline rush even in a Suped up Muscle car like a GTO or a Charger. >>

Obviously you've never pulled up beside someone on some deserted road with a bunch of people watching and have someone drop the flag while you're worrying that the police are going to show up and put everyone in jail and impound all the cars....while also trying to beat the car next to you so all your buddies that arranged the race in the first place won't kill you if you lose....
Not that I've ever done anything like that

Either that or you just haven't ridden in a fast enough car.

Look, on the street it's all about who wins. It doesn't matter that the Ferrari would kill the Civic on a mountain road(not necessarily with the driver in that video, though)....he took it to the street drags and got beat. Yes, he is still driving a Ferrari and nearly anyone would take that over any Civic anyday, but....at the same time, it's always amusing to me to see some rich P-boy in daddy's toy get waxed by an econobox like a Civic.

Yes, we all know that it's still a Civic....but it's still funny.

 

[Pacfanweb]

<<The real Rush was outrunning the cops afterwards. Add a little bit a terror to speed and you have your self an E Ticket ride.>>

No sh!t!!! Been there, done that. Pucker factor, if you know what I mean.

 

[Freejack2]

I'm not entirely sure on this but I've heard that double clutching can make a difference in racing.
I've never tried it myself, but as far as I understand it.
1) Push the clutch in.
2) Put the car in neutral.
3) Let the clutch out
4) Press the gas pedal until the rpms match what they should be when you shift into the next gear.
5) Push the clutch in while mainting rpms.
6) Put the car in the next gear.
7) Let the clutch out

If I have this right (do I?) does this give better performance in racing?
If so then could the Civic driver been double clutching while the Ferrari driver wasn't?

 

[lsd]

<< Yeah whatever. >>


Next time get your facts straight.

 

[Bojo]

No it couldn't be true,

the civic was obviously driven by a ferrari driver,
the ferrari driver was obviously a full time Honda driver,
the ferrari's side of the road had some oil on it which made it start so slow,
the civic was obviously running Nitro,
the ferrari wasn't modified at all but the civic obviously had at least 200,000 spent on mods,
the moons of jupiter were obviously in an alignment favouring Honda's....


Good Lord! what is wrong with you Japanese import haters? &quot;tehehheheee they burn rice! tteehehehe, now lets go and drive a REAL car, becuase anything made by honda is just made of plastic, and they're small, and they're .....silly!&quot;

Just what the heck is wrong with Japanese imports? They totally own other cars when it comes to handling, braking (see S2000), technological inovation, etc, etc,. sure they might have some faults but name a car that doesn't??

I wasn't that surprised at all when the civic stuck it to the ferrari,



Get real people.

 

[jsm]

There really isn't anything wrong with a modded Honda. What is bad is stock Honda's and the owners who think they are bad arses. There are tons of kiddies in San Jose with their little Acuras and Hondas who put kanji all over their cars and think they are the man. I've seen them try to race - and they always get beat. The only cars they beat are Geo's and Suzuki Esteems. The 4 cylinder engine on a Civic - even the VTEC, cannot even get close to Mustang GT. Yet, for some reason, all the Honda owners I know talk a lot of smack about American car owners - even though they lose to them in races all the time.

If I was going to race, I would buy a Mustang and trick it out way before I would ever buy a Honda and put work into it. You start with a better base and get better results and for a better price.

Anyhow, I am no expert on cars at all. I just know that a Honda does not hit it's real power until high RPMs. They just play catch up.


Here are some fun links:

Got Rice?

Mustang vs. Civic

VTEC Reality Check

 

[snut]

mmmm...mustang GT ~~ right now iam driving a Toyota Prerunner, and Id like one of them to to race my other fellow asain rice rocket driving ppl ~

 

[Lucky]

Gee Red, LSD shows you the real facts, and all you can do is sit down and repeat the same crap over again?

you say : <<that most other cars can't even think of handling at the same speed.>>

Yet you dont contest lsd when he says that a

stock honda will outrun a ferrari. You just kinda sit there and talk crap.

Are you gonna bark all day, little doggie, or are you gonna bite?

 

[alocurto]

I am by no means a car guy. Cars just aren't important to me but a lot of my friends like to race them and what not so I usually tag along with them. So my opionion is:

The guy in the Civic knows his stuff, loves to drive and treats his car good. He knows his car and keeps it in top shape. The ferrari driver was either the son of the owner of the actually car or some extremely rich Bill Gates like teenager. I amassuming that it was just the driver who made the ferrari look like it sucked. I mean put a Kia and a lamborghini on the race strip. Let mario andretti drive the Kia and a monkey drive the lamborghini.... duh.

Ferrari is well known and I am pretty sure everyone obviously knows that this race was bs.

But that is just my opinion and I am never wrong... I mean I am not always right

-alocurto

 

[jsm]

Here is some useful info to compare and despair.

Ferrarri F550 Maranello:
0 - 60: 4.3 seconds
1/4 mile: 12.5 seconds
485 hp
top speed: 199 mph
torque: 420 lbs.

1999 Honda Civic SI
0 - 60: 7.1 seconds
1/4 mile: 15.7 @ 88mph
160 hp
top speed: 127 mph
torque: 111 lbs.

The Honda can get to 110 mph in approx 29 seconds. To get to 120 mph, it takes a total of 55.6 seconds. So, it takes 26.6 seconds to gain 10 miles per hour. Not quite the racer, is it..?

And just for kicks .. though I am not a fan of Ford, just a fan of fast cars by any manufacturer (BTW - I love the NSX).

Mustang SVT Cobra R
0 - 60: 4.7 seconds
1/4 mile: 13.2 seconds
385 hp
top speed: 175 mph
torque: 385 lbs.

 

[OS]

I don't understand what the point of that mustang vs civic page is? The two cars aren't even in the same class performance wise.

 

[jsm]

I think the Mustang vs. Civic page was in regards to a usenet discussion where some Civic drivers were saying that there Civics were superiour to the Mustang. Clearly, this FAQ shows otherwise.



<< The two cars aren't even in the same class performance wise. >>



Exactly - you hit the nail right on the head.

 

[Nutcase99]

I just thought it was kinda cool when I first saw it. I know that in real life a Ferrari can kick the sh!t out of a civic no matter how modefied the civic is its still a CIVIC!!

Put it this way.. you drive up the a club and well you have a ferrari people are going to crowd around and go &quot;Ooooh! Ahhhh!&quot; Then someone drives up in a civic, no one gives it a second glance!

 

[Lucky]

<<<What is your problem Luckster?>>>


You red, for a long time...i just havent spoken about it.


<<<Did I say something to you that made you angry?>>>


Oh, plenty. But I kept my mouth shut.


<<What am I suppose to say to him? Am I supposed to get in a flame war over this with him? You have to be kidding!>>

Perhaps admit you were wrong? I dunno, it appears as though that is what I would do. I have learned you are different though.


<<<OK, now does that mean that you are someone here who we should look up to because you can post some lame ass insult? Or is it what it appears to be? An attempt to goad me into a dispute with you.>>>


Do I need the status to voice *my opinion* here? BTW, the
&quot;lame ass insult&quot; is from reservoir dogs (quentin tarantino film). I just finished watching it-sorry if its the first thing off my head, you know?


<<<It say &quot;well in my opinion&quot; Are you going to try and give me a hard time because I posted my God Damn opinion ?>>>



I hate to nitpick you Red, but that qualifier was made in this context

...but a drag race is nothing to be impressed over. Well at least in my opinion..

I wouldnt want to speak for you, but it certainly doesnt seem as if that qualifier speaks for your whole spiel. upon first, second, and fourth readings, i still only take that qualifier for your last sentence. Of course, I could be wrong, and I can admit that if its true.



<<I mean every God damn time I post my god damn opinion are you going to be there saying that I am a dog?>>

I have shown myself once, do you have indication I will bother you more?


<<Maybe I can change so you won't feel the need to drop in out of the blue and start insulting me, especially since I don't know who the hell you even are!!!!>>>

Its easier to just stay at other forums than to try and avoid you red, but once in awhile I occasionally need the services of AT. And occasionally, i visit OT, where I occasionally see your rantings. On ocassion, I might feel up to occasionally commenting on your writings.

 

[OS]

why would you need an faq for something so obvious?

NM, apparently some people don't see it that way

 

[Nutcase99]

That VTEC Reality Check web site isn't all true, it's true that the Vtech kicks in after 5500 rpms BUT there is a Vtec contoller if you install one of them then you can change when the Vtec kicks in. I'm not sure how low you can make it go but I know you can lower it somewhat. PLUS when you are racing thats the only time you need the extra power for every day drving why do you need alot of power?

 

[JoeKing]

<< What sets apart Rice-Boys from normal performance enthusiasts is that they are more concerned with the image of speed than they are about actual performace. Few Rice Rockets add the one option that can make a Civic begin to go fast -- a turbochager.

Take for example, the above pictured Civic. It looks pretty mean and fast with its rims and super-spoiler (another staple of Rice-Boy technology), but closer inspection will reveal that this is a Civic DX. The mirrors and liscence plate frames are FLAT BLACK, whereas LX and EX models are painted and would be shiny. A noble attempt at fooling people (as black plastic would stand out more on a red or white car as opposed to a black car), but the outside appearance doesn't change what is under the hood -- a Civic DX economy car engine.

It's not so much that Rice-Boy is trying to make his car look good. There are lots of people out there who just want to make their car look good, and don't care about speed at all. Rice-Boy, however, says that he is making his modifications to enhance his car's performance, when really, all he cares about is fitting some sort of image. For example, he may lower his car, saying that it is for a lower center of gravity, and thus, better handling, but if he doesn't do a good job of it (i.e., his car is bouncing around from his shocks being able to handle the higher spring rates... or he cuts his springs making his car uneven) then we know that really, he cares more about looking low then he does about better cornering. >>




I'm sure many of you have visited this page, but hey it's a good place to learn about riceness.
Brian's Rice Bot Page

Oh yeah someone posted this on the board a while ago, but a repost of this rice citation is in order. I've handed out a few around my campus
Rice Citation

 

[Nutcase99]

Check out this to see the Vtec contoller

 

[jsm]

Here is a great site dedicated to street racing.

StreetRacing.org

 

[Lucky]

&quot;That sounds unbelievable to me and for me to even try to dispute him over it seemed kind of silly.&quot;

Well there we go, theres a good start! Perhaps my long-term goal in OT is to rehab you, Red. Dont think of me as a troll, for I am not-but as someone who can help you.

Anyways, my point was that you often, instead of putting up a good reason, just spout crap, or confuse the issue,or so it seems to me. It gets really old-and lame-and I suppose I am one of many who wanted to tell you that.

To me, your claim of not wanting to dispute his claim is BS-an excuse for you not wanting to admit you might be wrong- but maybe not...you never stated that though.


I dont intend to argue with you for long here-just wanted to pop in and say hi Dont know if you are worth the trouble of coming back to OT-I will probably just stick to FS/FT.

 

[tweekah]

Here are some numbers to compare, that were on a track.

 

[lagvoid]

damn! i have nothing against them and nothing for them but you guys just seem to hate hondas!
if it was set in front of me ... yes no questions asked i would go for the Ferarri. but the thing is that a Ferarri cost a couple $100,000 while the civic would be under $30,000. i wasnt shocked to see the civic keep up with the Ferarri at all because at the track there are quite a few civics/integras whatever hitting 10 seconds and 11 seconds in the 1/4 mile but anything after that they would simply get crushed.

 

[geno]

That VTEC Reality Check page has its point, but it's rediculous. &quot;It ONLY makes that power above 5500 RPMS, which no one uses!!!!&quot;. Who cares? It's still making the power, and 5500 is nothing for a Honda engine, so this guy needs a reality check for himself. And he refers to the V6 in the Stang as a &quot;monster&quot; LMAO this guy kills me...

LMAO, this officially proves that this guy is a retard:
&quot;THE REAL DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE CIVIC Si and LX IS.... NOTHING.&quot;
LOLOLLOL

 

[bigbootydaddy]

<< The only cars they beat are Geo's and Suzuki Esteems >>



i have an si, fastest car under 20 k...trust me, itll beat a lot.

plus i spent what 18k for it?? not like 28k for other &quot;muscle cars&quot;...and im 19, and almost paid off, not a cent from mommy and daddy. and im not asian btw.

plus ferrari insurance is a scam in itself.

and yeah whats with the import hating?? i think they are embarrassed that japanese make better cars for what they are worth. HOndas and Acuras hold their value like no other. one year of a mustang and youve lost 1/5 of the value already.

 

[erikiksaz]

That's a good point. Heh, bigbooty, for another ~3000 and a turbo charger you could get your civic up to 500 hp. 500hp shore does sound nice doesn't it?