Clash of Clan's Tactics

DistantShadow

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I recently posted a thread to see who is still playing clash of clans. I got a good amount of response, and also found some people making some rookie mistakes. So, I plan to offer my expertise on this subject for anyone looking to get ahead in the game. It does not matter what your goal is, I can offer some experienced advice!

Let them roll!
 

Annisman*

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When is a good time to go to TH 9 ? Most my walls are lvl8, and only have some teslas and archer towers that still need upgrading. Also, what upgrades would you do once at TH9 what's most important ? Thx !
 

DaTT

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I am currently TH7. I was thinking about maxing everything out before going to lvl 8. Good idea?
 

DistantShadow

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When is a good time to go to TH 9 ? Most my walls are lvl8, and only have some teslas and archer towers that still need upgrading. Also, what upgrades would you do once at TH9 what's most important ? Thx !

First I wouldnt focus too much time on walls, they are surely a huge gold investment. Level 8 walls are solid, I wouldnt touch those walls for a while. It is common to hear people to say wait until everything is upgraded to its max then upgrade your townhall. That is a good rule to go by, however, it also take away some of the fun of the game waiting for 4 months to upgrade everything. I would upgrade the archer towers a little more then buy it. I was almost completely upgraded on my Lvl 9TH but randomly decided to buy the lvl 10, and im happy I did because the Inferno towers are amazing.

So it all depends on if you want to be a daredevil and go against what everyone else says! I would say go for it!
 

DistantShadow

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I am currently TH7. I was thinking about maxing everything out before going to lvl 8. Good idea?

Check out the response I gave to the guy above you, I will add though, at smaller levels, you will want to make sure you have a decent foundation, meaning at least all gold walls, and all defense maxed or 1 under max for that TH lvl. The benefits of keeping a lower townhall however means you will get more per raid of higher TH bases. I would stay at level 8 and stay around the Gold III level for a while and see how you like the loot available. I found Gold II to be the best bracket for looting!
 

Homerboy

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I actually just started playing (my kids talked me into it)
So far... meh. lvl 4TH (I think?)
haven't even attacked or been attacked by another player.
 

DistantShadow

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I actually just started playing (my kids talked me into it)
So far... meh. lvl 4TH (I think?)
haven't even attacked or been attacked by another player.

You will want to build your Clan Castle if you havent already. Once you do that get in a clan, im sure your kids invited you to a clan already..lol But have fun with it! At lower levels, you are somewhat at risk of being crushed at every second, some people like to drop to lower trophy lvls just to troll people. Just set up a cool base and go with it!
 

Concillian

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When is a good time to go to TH 9 ? Most my walls are lvl8, and only have some teslas and archer towers that still need upgrading. Also, what upgrades would you do once at TH9 what's most important ? Thx !

Teslas are a big deal at TH8. There are three upgrades to them at TH8 and they end up as the highest DPS towers at TH8. Usually a high priority upgrade at TH8.

Personally, I'd put highest priority after TH9 as Archer queen, lab and DE drills. Pick your favorite tower to build a new one of and upgrade that one all the way (wiz tower or archer tower.) Getting queen to 5 is a big deal for attacking, which is why I would prioritize the drills. The queen is excellent defense too.
 

Concillian

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I actually just started playing (my kids talked me into it)
So far... meh. lvl 4TH (I think?)
haven't even attacked or been attacked by another player.

At some point you will start being attacked by people who just attack with one archer or barbarian and surrender. There is an achievement that needs you to be attacked and win a defense, but at everywhere from TH~5-6 up to 8-9 it's advantageous to lose when you're attacked and get a free 12H shield, so people put out their TH separate from their base to make it easy to lose. You'll see a bunch of TH6-->TH10 people at sub 200 trophies just dropping trophies as low as possible so people will attack with 1 guy and surrender so they get wins.

This quickly pushes new players up into the 500+ trophy range. If you're in it for the long run, keep giving trophies away and dropping back to ~200ish trophies and let yourself slowly rise back up to 500 as people do the same. Do this as much as possible at low TH levels. It's a pain to do it once you're normally settled in the 1500 trophy range.
 

DistantShadow

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At some point you will start being attacked by people who just attack with one archer or barbarian and surrender. There is an achievement that needs you to be attacked and win a defense, but at everywhere from TH~5-6 up to 8-9 it's advantageous to lose when you're attacked and get a free 12H shield, so people put out their TH separate from their base to make it easy to lose. You'll see a bunch of TH6-->TH10 people at sub 200 trophies just dropping trophies as low as possible so people will attack with 1 guy and surrender so they get wins.

This quickly pushes new players up into the 500+ trophy range. If you're in it for the long run, keep giving trophies away and dropping back to ~200ish trophies and let yourself slowly rise back up to 500 as people do the same. Do this as much as possible at low TH levels. It's a pain to do it once you're normally settled in the 1500 trophy range.

Only problem settling in at the 200-500 trophy range is its difficult to get any money which is why i suggest the gold III. And tesla's are a nice dps boost but only target one troop at at time, I consider the wizard tower and mortar to be more effective upgrades! Non the less good points!
 

imaheadcase

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This is a mobile game why is it in PC games? Not only that, but its a freakin cash grab game. After certain time you have to wait weeks to get a upgrade. lol
 

DistantShadow

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This is a mobile game why is it in PC games? Not only that, but its a freakin cash grab game. After certain time you have to wait weeks to get a upgrade. lol

It is in the PC Section because it will get the most exposure, and its only a cash grab game as much as you make it. And yes, you do have to wait a week or some for some upgrades, but in the mean time you can play your PC games! There are plenty of other PC and console games that have expansion packs too.
 

Patre

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I've started playing this since Nov. 2014 and do like playing. I'm only at TH6 & CC2, but I refuse to pay-to-play.......it's a lot slower in progression, but I'm in no hurry to get anywhere with this game.
However, there's a general need to have powerful weapons/armor/spells etc.......dilemma......

I'm already in a clan so it's nice to have others donate higher level troops to help in battle....I'm just not sure what I can do to improve my situ (without paying) other than upgrade everything.......slooowly.


BTW.......thanks Distant Shadow for offering to help!!
 
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imaheadcase

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It is in the PC Section because it will get the most exposure, and its only a cash grab game as much as you make it. And yes, you do have to wait a week or some for some upgrades, but in the mean time you can play your PC games! There are plenty of other PC and console games that have expansion packs too.

Well if you want to get the most exposure, perhaps, oh i don't know..putting in in the mobile section like you should of.
 

Denithor

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There isn't a mobile gaming subforum so it fits here as well as anywhere, really.

I've been playing for over three years now. Have a completely maxed TH8 base (walls, teslas, everything) that just started the jump up to TH9 two days ago. Have a nearly maxed TH9 base (only things left are walls and king/queen upgrades) that will likely finish the 1M wall upgrades before jumping to TH10. And have a TH10 base that is about 70% defense maxed, all research & elixir projects completely done.

So I have a little experience here. And I can tell you, it pays to upgrade fully before stepping up to the next TH level. Each time you go up, higher level players will begin to raid your base as the loot penalty decreases and you become worth hitting. For that reason, you want to have your existing defenses as strong as possible to hold onto your resources while you continue upgrading.
 

Patre

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So I have a little experience here. And I can tell you, it pays to upgrade fully before stepping up to the next TH level. Each time you go up, higher level players will begin to raid your base as the loot penalty decreases and you become worth hitting. For that reason, you want to have your existing defenses as strong as possible to hold onto your resources while you continue upgrading.

Good point about upgrading fully....
I was told the same thing from someone in my clan. I sorta got lucky in doing this and guessed at doing this (before joining the clan).......I think I upgraded everything I possibly could and the only thing left was to upgrade my TH to 6.

Wow!!!..... 3 years to get to TH8 or 9?? Hope I'll have the same interest in it by then.....:whiste:
 

Rakehellion

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I recently posted a thread to see who is still playing clash of clans. I got a good amount of response, and also found some people making some rookie mistakes. So, I plan to offer my expertise on this subject for anyone looking to get ahead in the game. It does not matter what your goal is, I can offer some experienced advice!

Let them roll!

What makes you think you're an expert?
 

Denithor

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Haha! Not three years if I was really seriously raiding all the time. I'm a much more social player, enjoy chatting with clanmates more than raiding these days.

My TH10 base I never, ever raid anymore, it costs 1,000 gold per click and sometimes takes >100 clicks to find a base that is both worth raiding (enough resources) and also that I can take out with the troops I'm carrying. So I just sit back and collect from mines/etc and the occasional clan war.

Also, keep in mind, when I started playing, TH8 was the highest you could go. And they have refined and added stuff constantly over that time, like in this most recent update adding a DE drill at TH7. When I started playing, TH7 only got two mortars, now it has three, TH9 and TH10 have both been added with everything that comes with those, etc.

My best pointers for strategy would be:
-Always max defenses and troops (mandatory) and walls (if you're patient enough) before advancing.

-Don't worry about trophies at all. If you get the loot, don't drop more troops to grab a few trophies, that just slows down your rebuild and therefore your advancement rate. You will naturally go up in trophies as your troops get stronger and more numerous.

-Put your town hall outside walls. You're not after trophies and with TH outside, about half of all attacks will simply snipe that and move on, leaving your resources untouched.

-Learn how to use new troops while farming before you try to use them in wars. Seriously. I've seen people dump a horde of dragons that just get chewed up because they have no idea how to use them effectively.

-For best results, don't mix air and ground troops. Air troops ignore canons and mortars completely, ground troops ignore rockets completely. Throwing out a mix of the two types just means you get damaged by both, the worst possible situation. The only exception is the healer, but I never use those because they just...die (mainly due to what I just referenced). Healing spells are much better.

-My typical farming army is 56 barbarians, 56 archers, 8 wall breakers, 8 wizards and 8 or 12 giants (TH8 or TH9). I then add 3 healing spells (TH8) and a rage spell (TH9). Normally, I shoot for ghost towns where I can clean up mines/collectors outside walls with just barbs & archers. Then exit, rebuild those fast troops and repeat. Average like a 10 minute raiding cycle, pulling tons of loot.

-For war raids, dragons (8) and balloons (8/12/16) are a very potent mix. Lightning bolt down one air defense (3xlightning), on the opposite side of the base from where you will enter with dragons. Then drop in dragons in a line (spread out somewhat) and then balloons in a second line behind dragons. Try to drop as close to one of the remaining air defenses as possible for a quick kill before it can take out your troops.

-Splash defenses (mortar & wizard tower) are first priority upgrades, followed by archer towers and teslas (hit both ground and air) then air defenses and canons. For placement, try to keep mortars, wiz towers and rockets inside inner walls, group wiz with rockets to wreck balloon raids.
 

DistantShadow

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I've started playing this since Nov. 2014 and do like playing. I'm only at TH6 & CC2, but I refuse to pay-to-play.......it's a lot slower in progression, but I'm in no hurry to get anywhere with this game.
However, there's a general need to have powerful weapons/armor/spells etc.......dilemma......

I'm already in a clan so it's nice to have others donate higher level troops to help in battle....I'm just not sure what I can do to improve my situ (without paying) other than upgrade everything.......slooowly.


BTW.......thanks Distant Shadow for offering to help!!

In my opinion, have fun with the time in this game. Dont think of this game like a console game where you engage for a few hours, just do what you have to do and continue on with your day.

I would recommend picking a attack strategy from the beginning and upgrading those troops first. If you try to upgrade all the troops, you will have all of your troops only decent rather than spending that same money on a few troops and getting them as high as you can. For me, I like Pekka's and Valkryie. So I started to focus more on them than anything else. And wizards..lol At your level, I would focus on Giants and Wizards, or Giants and Barb, or giants and arch. I would do Giants and Wizard deploying Giants as a meat shield and then shortly after sending in the high dps Wiz.

When upgrading your defenses, focus on mortars and wizard towers first. They do splash damage and at your level they will be coming with a bunch of smaller troops, not a few big ones. In addition to this, I find a base design that puts the clan castle in the middle of your base. Next find someone in your clan that can team up with you to donate similar troops for your DEFENSE. You are right, at your level you only have defenses that are so strong, but a clan castle of wizards can really do some damage on giants coming through.

Try and put your wizard towers relatively close to you're mortars. If you notice, mortars have a red ring of death which means they cannot shoot any troops within that ring. That is where the Wizard tower comes into play, killing all troops getting close to the mortars. And the Wizard benefits from the Mortars range!

I would also put your wiz towers more on the outskirts of your base. The enemy will spawn troops to take out all of your building surrounding your base, and when they do, the wizard with splash damage will kill many at once!

I would also get to a level where you can find a good amount of loot, and then put your town hall on the outside of your base. Yes you lose trophies, but no once cares about trophies, you want money. Every time someone destroys you're TH, you get a 12 hour shield where you cant get attacked and you can save all the money from your gold and elixer mines

Here is a base design
Here is a base design

Those are a good start for some bases!

Let me know if you have any more questions about anything!
 

Patre

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Excellent tips there Denithor!! Will be re-reading this periodically and employ these tactics.
Thanks for typing out all the details.
 

DistantShadow

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What makes you think you're an expert?

Never said I was an expert. But I think anyone who has been playing for 2.5 years on anything has some words of advice for new players! And I have studied this subject, yes I sound like a nerd..lol but I enjoy it!
 

DistantShadow

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Well if you want to get the most exposure, perhaps, oh i don't know..putting in in the mobile section like you should of.

Dont get all butt hurt, I have one in there, and it was a simply question I posed about CoC. It got 50 replies overnight and so I decided to add some advice in the PC section about it.
 

justoh

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The best advice anyone can give is to keep the townhall outside, in a corner, preferably surrounded by flowers, for a cheap shield. Most of the time you shouldn't lose any resources. There's no point in really concerning yourself with trophies until you're a well developed th10.

Rushing is fine up until th9. Loot is harder to acquire at th10 due to the loot penalty, so it's advisable to max th9 before upgrading - minus walls and heroes since you'll finish all defenses and troop upgrades long before you have lvl 10 walls and lvl 30 heroes.

At all levels the priority should always be offensive upgrades first/asap, so army camps, spell factory, farming troops.

Consider just using barbarians and archers if you want to maximize resource acquisition.
 
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