Clash of Clan's Tactics

[justoh]

The only reason someone should be focusing on trophies is for gems. @1250 @2600 @3000.

you forgot crystal achievement. Also, champion is 3200 not 3k.

 

[Denithor]

Excellent tips there Denithor!! Will be re-reading this periodically and employ these tactics.
Thanks for typing out all the details.

Absolutely, glad to help! If you have any specific questions please ask and I will try to answer.

 

[Concillian]

I would recommend picking a attack strategy from the beginning and upgrading those troops first. If you try to upgrade all the troops, you will have all of your troops only decent rather than spending that same money on a few troops and getting them as high as you can. For me, I like Pekka's and Valkryie. So I started to focus more on them than anything else. And wizards..lol At your level, I would focus on Giants and Wizards, or Giants and Barb, or giants and arch. I would do Giants and Wizard deploying Giants as a meat shield and then shortly after sending in the high dps Wiz.

At TH6 all you need are barbarians and archers. There are lots of "dead" bases in the 1000-1200 range and you can clean up the collectors with a line of barbarians to soak damage, then a line of archers to kill them. Plenty of times you can end up with 200k+ of both gold and elixir. Add a few wall breakers for a small amount of reach, and your two spells should be lightning for either CC troops or to take out a mortar if you need to get in towards the center.

On my second account I just went from TH6 --> TH7 and my TH6 was frequently maxed gold / elixir just waiting on buildings to finish to upgrade some walls and start the next upgrade. Barch is cheap and effective when you are at a trophy range where you find abandoned bases with collectors full of loot (pretty much anywhere below 1700ish). Denithor's troop makeup is similar... Barch available for the abandoned bases for cheap and efficient loot gathering, with the Giants, Wizards, and heal spells for when you find a good base you need to get towards the center of.

TH6 should allow you to get up to 1250 trophies without difficulty so you can get your 450 gems to help with getting the next builder's hut. TH5 it's pretty doable, so if you haven't gotten to 1250, and are less than 450 gems from the next builder's hut, focus on trophies for a while.

When you're at TH9 / 10 people often will leave an isolated Town Hall alone for an hour or two, leaving you a potential target for someone really powerful. BUT leave a x-bow or inferno tower (bonus points if it's empty) in the middle of nowhere next to your town hall and they'll take it down for progress on those achievements for gems, then take your Town hall just because it's there. If you ARE going for trophies, leaving an empty x-bow or inferno out in the middle of nowhere instead of TH will get people who attack, take down that tower, then surrender, which will net you trophies. This is one way to work towards the Master's League achievement (reach 2600 trophies for a reward of 1000 gems) with an under-developed base.

 

[jdoggg12]

Here's my TH8 layout - it may not be 'optimal' but it has proven to be damn effective at throwing people off. It's a unique design that filters the enemy into choke points... the outer-most walls are short enough that wall breakers bypass them altogether. Many attackers don't have an effective strategy for it. The only time I get rolled more than 80% damage is by high level TH9's and up.

http://i.imgur.com/E6hw8h0.png

I just finished an upgrade with my 4th builder so I had too much gold dark/elixir in my stockpiles. As you can see in the image, I had been building expensive raiding parties to keep my elixir from skyrocketing and painting a fat farming target on my back.

My suggestions are as follows...

- Never pile-up both gold AND elixir while saving for an expensive upgrade. The majority of farmers will pass on an attack that nets 150k+ of one type and only 5k of the other.

- Keep like vaults separated as far apart as possible. If they're going to go after you for the 150k/5k, they'll have to work for every drop.

- If you're attacking for gold/elixer... you only need archers and goblins with 5-12 giants to absorb fire and 4-6 wallbreakers to dig into their base. Don't build expensive units to get resources. A barb/arch/gob raid can do 4-10 raids/hour and get 30-200k per raid and only costs 30k elixir. Adding wizard and healers doubles the cost and halves or quarters your attack turnover time

- Play with new ratios of troops, you never know when you'll learn a new strategy for tricky bases like mine

- Don't underestimate the power of massed minions. I've done 100% raids on TH8 bases with nothing but minions and a couple rage spells (usually as revenge as a big F-YOU)

- I advise weak walls on the outside because a couple wallbreakers will hit it, almost every time. Let them, you want their troops to stall out on the inside of your base where they're getting hit with 4-6 defenses at once.

- never put 2 splash damage buildings in the same 'room'. They are your 800lb gorillas and you need them to be taken out as slowly as possible

- hidden openings... look at the cannon on the far left and archer on the far right. One wall is missing in the corner on both. It's amazing how quickly the giants pour out of the center of my big open area (once the defenses are gone) and go alllllll the way around to get that cannon. Same is true for the area by my dark elir collectors... They think giants will go straight for the wizard tower but instead they turn and go after the open archer tower, not realizing it's already un-walled

 

[Rakehellion]

Haha! Not three years if I was really seriously raiding all the time. I'm a much more social player, enjoy chatting with clanmates more than raiding these days.

My TH10 base I never, ever raid anymore, it costs 1,000 gold per click and sometimes takes >100 clicks to find a base that is both worth raiding (enough resources) and also that I can take out with the troops I'm carrying. So I just sit back and collect from mines/etc and the occasional clan war.

This. I think someone made a script with a Raspberry Pi that automatically clicks the button until it finds a base with enough gold. So tedious.

I don't really play much except when they have those 1 gem events and I buy a 1 week shield and upgrade everything. The game is a grindfest.

 

[Rakehellion]

This is me:

 

[justoh]

To lend some credibility to my previous advice (and also to brag a bit about my above average walls):

Good th8 base that i used about a year ago (rarely ever lost more than a couple storages, though mostly just lost townhall - it's deceptively good. can't take credit for the design. Ask clan mates for wizards. clan castle hard to lure and wizards screw up most attacks):

12 months later:

*flex* - yes, just to (mostly) max th9 from a fully maxed th8 took me almost a year Rarely get any serious attacks anymore. Base seems to work well.

Currently playing an alt i used to use primarily for donations, which is a premature th10 (still have some th8 defenses and weak walls), running in windows:

95% of the time i just used barbarians and archers (sometimes minions). Example:

At th9 and especially th10 probably the best thing to do nowadays is to grind the league bonuses. Don't have to next 100 times. Just go to crystal or masters and get 50% on any base you can, using the very cheap barch combo, taking out exposed ths along the way. It'll add up. No problem with loot at th10, playing only about 8 hours a week. Only bought gems for builders. Have never bought resources.

 

[justoh]

@Rakehellion

Noticed you're upgrading to th10. For whatever it's worth (and i know it might not be much), I think you will regret it. I'm sure the OP and others will agree. Way too premature, and you won't be able to attack th8s anymore (50% loot penalty). TH9 is the best place to be for loot.

 

[Rakehellion]

@Rakehellion

Noticed you're upgrading to th10. For whatever it's worth (and i know it might not be much), I think you will regret it. I'm sure the OP and others will agree. Way too premature, and you won't be able to attack th8s anymore (50% loot penalty). TH9 is the best place to be for loot.

I'm doing it for the extra elixir collectors.

As I said, I mainly play when I get the 1 week shield and missing out of a few bases is no big deal with the amount of grinding that's already required.

 

[Patre]

So far, I've put my TH6 outside the walls (level 5).........put my wizard tower (lvl 3) next to the mortar (lvl 3), gold mines, storage, canons (lvl 7), archer towers (3x lvl 6), elixir's, and clan castle inside the wall.....rest are all outside.

Thanks for posting the pics guys.....I'm trying to figure out the best way to protect my base and these tips help.

 

[DistantShadow]

I would say get to TH10 simply for the fact of getting the inferno towers! They are a game changer when it comes to trying to save up for big stuff! Good posts guys! Very cool to see you advancement in just a year!

 

[yoda5]

How does it pick who joins a clan war? Is it totally random or is there some math behind it? Some of our more active players seem to get snubbed a lot.

 

[justoh]

I would say get to TH10 simply for the fact of getting the inferno towers! They are a game changer when it comes to trying to save up for big stuff! Good posts guys! Very cool to see you advancement in just a year!

In his situation, since he doesn't raid, sure, but generally the benefit doesn't outweigh the cost. From th1-8 the defensive upgrades are incremental, but th9 has lvl 7 wiz towers (big upgrade over 6) and introduces xbows, which makes a big difference. To counter this lvl 6 giants are a 40% increase in stats over lvl 5 giants, whereas previous upgrades were around 17%. Balloons enjoy a similar boost. This is because it's much harder to raid a th9 than a th8.

So a th9 can easily decimate any th8, even using just barch, with only a 10% loot penalty. TH10s can't really attack th8s because only half the loot is available, and they don't really get much more offensive capability. lvl 7 troops are hardly any better. Th9s can also raid other th9s, with no loot penalty. A th10 can't raid other th10s efficiently.

So yes, easier to protect loot but much harder to acquire it. Th9 really is the sweet spot, if you're an active player. If you rely on collectors then th10 is worth it just for the extra 2400 de produced every day.

 

[justoh]

How does it pick who joins a clan war? Is it totally random or is there some math behind it? Some of our more active players seem to get snubbed a lot.

It's based on how many members you have, in multiples of 10, probably, and cups. So if you have 31 members, 1 will be left out (the one with the least cups). If you have 39, 9 will be left out. etc

 

[DistantShadow]

They add up your clans "power", an algorithm including the size of the base, level of assets, which adds up to your clan trophy count.

 

[justoh]

Wasn't sure i should mention it since it's not exactly kosher, but there's also stuff like this to help with the searches. http://coc.ngels.ru/clash-of-clans-bot.html

lol. only just discovered it. You run coc in bluestacks (pc) on another monitor or something and it auto searches for you based on the parameters you've entered. When it finds a base with the specified amount of loot it will notify you audibly, and you can stop whatever you're doing on your main monitor (other games, movies, work, whatever) for a quick raid. It will also keep you online for a free shield even if you aren't raiding (auto mouse clicker which i suppose could just be scripted - don't need this program. just bluestacks). Just minimize it and never get raided (i don't bother with this though).

You get a free trial. Mine's expired, but it was fun while it lasted. Don't think I'll buy it since i hate raiding with a mouse (can't deploy in more than one area at a time). I like using at least two fingers to deploy units, sometimes 4 to surround the base or for very quick, mass deployment. Playing on pc is like playing on a tablet using only one finger. It works but it's not as efficient.

 

[Annisman*]

Great stuff guys ! I've made the jump to TH9, had enough gold to immidiately start both Xbows, enough D.E. to get my Archer Queen, and enough Elixir to do the lab and level 5 Dark Barracks. Whichis something I will add. When going up to the next townhall level, save as much as you possibly can to start the 'big' upgrades straight away !

And if anyone is interested in joining our clan we are an adult clan that enjoys warring often. Clan tag: Wizard Me This!

This is Me:

 

[Patre]

I'm about to go into my first Clan War (I'm at TH6) and my recommended target looks a bit stronger than my troops can handle....(3x lvl 4 mortars, 2x lvl 3 wiz towers, 5x lvl 7 canons, 4x lvl 7 archer towers, and what not inside his clan castle).

I'm trying to figure out a strategy that'll be the best I could do, with the little that I have (12x lvl 3 Wiz, 2x lvl 2 wall breakers, 13x lvl 3 Giants, 10x lvl 3 archers, and 8x lvl3 barbs.....also got 1x lvl 2 lightning splash & 1x lvl3 healing splash....oh yeah, also 4 hogs).

 

[Annisman*]

Recommended is usually way off don't go by it

 

[Denithor]

I realize this is too late to help in your first war, but yeah, don't follow recommended target. Just look for a target that you are confident you can take down with your selected mix of troops. And, don't try new mixes of troops in wars - test out new troops/mixes while farming to figure out what works well, not when getting those stars matters.

 

[Patre]

I realize this is too late to help in your first war, but yeah, don't follow recommended target. Just look for a target that you are confident you can take down with your selected mix of troops. And, don't try new mixes of troops in wars - test out new troops/mixes while farming to figure out what works well, not when getting those stars matters.

Our Clan leader suggested I attack a particular TH (with minimum troops) just to get the loot and not worry about the stars. It worked.

As it happens, I'm the weakest one in our clan. All the targets were at least a few TH levels higher than me.......so basically everything was a suicide mission.....lol.

We're currently at war, but I'm just a spectator........one of the guys is good friend, so they're keeping me in spite of my weak status.

 

[Denithor]

Awesome, sounds like you've found a great clan. Enjoy it!

 

[Patre]

Just a general question.......if a TH9 is outside the walls (at the edge of the field), about how much loot can you generally get from attacking just the TH? (planning on doing it with a few archers only which are outside the range of any defenses). Also, what are the other benefits of just taking down the TH?

I'm waiting for my shield to run out before I go in.....

 

[quikah]

Just a general question.......if a TH9 is outside the walls (at the edge of the field), about how much loot can you generally get from attacking just the TH? (planning on doing it with a few archers only which are outside the range of any defenses). Also, what are the other benefits of just taking down the TH?

I'm waiting for my shield to run out before I go in.....

1000 gold / 1000 elixer. mostly just do it for free trophies. You can try grabbing anything in the collectors that are on the edge also with an archer.

 

[Patre]

Thanks Quikah. Everytime I want to take revenge, he seems to be always online .......
I thought it was a little odd seeing a higher level TH outside the wall defense.....usually the're almost always inside......anyway, when I do get a chance, it'll be his loss.