Class Action Suit on Dell 8350 Scam

[Doomer]

A man walks into a bar and yells "All lawyers are a$$holes. This guy at the bar gets up and says "how dare you insult me". The man asks "Are you a lawyer?" The guy says "No, I'm an A$$hole".

 

[lobe]

Did you hear about the plane-load of lawyers that was hijacked?

Unless the hijackers' demands were met, they would RELEASE one lawyer per hour.

 

[catrats]

Originally posted by: 1Cheap2Crazy
Those jokes were funny. Seriously, is this the deal where you had to be a student or teacher? I saw that when I click on the deal, since I'm neither, I chose not to try and get on this "deal". But I read here, and over at the no-ethics site FW, that people were going to go for it because "Dell won't have the time to check to see if you are a student or teacher". If you didn't qualify, I hope you don't get your rebate. Those people are ruining the deals for the rest of us. And when they don't get their way, what do they do? Sue or complain. How mature.

I see it's the posters 2nd post, he must be one of those losers that didn't get his way, therefore sue.

His/her other post is in the thread for the deal that you mentioned. I'm guessing this is the deal that is being labelled a scam by the OP. Here's the thread for anyone interested: DEAD: ONE MORE REBATE-Last Day! - get dell dimenstion 8250 P4 2.4G for MAYBE $60!!

 

[TheBigCheese]

Q: What's the difference between a rooster and a lawyer?

A: The rooster clucks defiance!!

Write me at cluckdefiance@lawyer.com , most every spammer in the world has!!!

 

[MrCodeDude]

Originally posted by: Doomer
A man walks into a bar and yells "All lawyers are a$$holes. This guy at the bar gets up and says "how dare you insult me". The man asks "Are you a lawyer?" The guy says "No, I'm an A$$hole".

 

[rtkane]

Originally posted by: AdamsJabbar
Class-action lawsuits are (usually) the worst kind of lawsuit.

1. The consumers who are a part of this generally get a tiny fraction of the penalty given to the defendant.

2. The lawyers reap the most profit out of it. That is why they are always gladly willing to take up a class-action suit against any company.

3. The company that was sued simply issues a check and goes on about its business.

Class-action suits are beneficial to lawyers, not the consumers. There needs to be some kind of restructuring in the ways these particular complaints are handled. Take the CD rebate thing a while back. People received checks for something like 5-10 bucks?? Big deal! The lawyers received checks in the hundreds of thousands, if not millions for this lawsuit. Thanks for nothing, buddy!

Yeah, but millions of people received $5 or $10 bucks. Although I'm not saying all lawyers are the best people on earth, I had one work for me! I was part of a class action lawsuit against the builder of the townhouse I'm currently in. Everyone involved was cut a check for $4,000 for repairs. My house needed about $150 to fix.

Oh, and to add to the humor..... what's the difference between a lawyer and a catfish?

One's a scum-sucking bottom dweller, the other's a fish.

 

[CherryBOMB]

Originally posted by: dexvx
It was because a lot of greedy fvcks thought they could get a top of the line system for $60 AR. It was really about $300 - which is still damn hot, but only if you were part of an educational institution. FYI, I got mine for slightly under $300, and I was damn happy.

I want a Dell for $60 AR:brokenheart:

 

[MontyBurns]

So... people are shocked that the computer wasn't REALLY <$100 after rebate?

Wow, who could have guessed!

SUE SUE SUE SUE!

 

[dexvx]

Originally posted by: MontyBurns
So... people are shocked that the computer wasn't REALLY <$100 after rebate?

Wow, who could have guessed!

SUE SUE SUE SUE!

Apparently a lot of the ferengis in AT Hot Deals and FW. And FYI, it wasnt just some cheapo Lindows computer, it was the then top of the line Dimension 8250.

If I were Dell, I'd be like the RIAA and countersue those fvcks for fraud and try and get those geeks in a Federal Pound-Me-In-The-Ass? Prison. Keep the lawyer jokes coming .

 

[Tab]

Originally posted by: rtkane

Originally posted by: AdamsJabbar
Class-action lawsuits are (usually) the worst kind of lawsuit.

1. The consumers who are a part of this generally get a tiny fraction of the penalty given to the defendant.

2. The lawyers reap the most profit out of it. That is why they are always gladly willing to take up a class-action suit against any company.

3. The company that was sued simply issues a check and goes on about its business.

Class-action suits are beneficial to lawyers, not the consumers. There needs to be some kind of restructuring in the ways these particular complaints are handled. Take the CD rebate thing a while back. People received checks for something like 5-10 bucks?? Big deal! The lawyers received checks in the hundreds of thousands, if not millions for this lawsuit. Thanks for nothing, buddy!

Yeah, but millions of people received $5 or $10 bucks

WOW

 

[RossMAN]

Edit your thread title it says 8350 when it should be 8250.

http://www.rossworx.com/Dell8250.html

 

[RideFree]

If I were Dell, I'd be like the RIAA and countersue those fvcks for fraud and try and get those geeks in a Federal Pound-Me-In-The-Ass? Prison. Keep the lawyer jokes coming .

I'll drink to that!

 

[huesmann]

Originally posted by: Doomer
A man walks into a bar and yells "All lawyers are a$$holes. This guy at the bar gets up and says "how dare you insult me". The man asks "Are you a lawyer?" The guy says "No, I'm an A$$hole".

You got me to laugh out loud on that one!

 

[Cherub]

Not hot deal here, but I'll chime in anyway.

The purpose of class action suits is to punish a company for acts that individuals would let slide because each small, though illegal, act is too small to bring a suit for by itself. Companies have learned that they can screw people for small amounts because no one would be stupid enough to spend more on the suit than the act caused them to lose.

However, class action suits are unbelivably difficult to prosecute, and lawyers can spend literally years and a lot of their own money to finance costs of the case.

I just wanted to put a brief view of the other side forward.

 

[dexvx]

Originally posted by: Cherub
Not hot deal here, but I'll chime in anyway.

The purpose of class action suits is to punish a company for acts that individuals would let slide because each small, though illegal, act is too small to bring a suit for by itself. Companies have learned that they can screw people for small amounts because no one would be stupid enough to spend more on the suit than the act caused them to lose.

Ironic that it doesnt work the other way around. When each greedy fvck on AT: Hot Deals and FW screws some store (Staples, Dell, OMax, OD) by lying or what not to fulful the rebate or whatever requirement, no one seems to feel bad for the corporation.

I can understand that there can be some misunderstanding on each side of the fence, but when the lying and fraud was as obvious as this, I wouldnt feel one bit of pity if Dell decides to turn around, and sue them for fraud. In fact, I'd be happier if they were put in a Federal Pound-Me-In-The-Ass? Prison for a year or two. Now thats Federal money well spent.

 

[Miramonti]

if it was a legitimate pricing error they should have offered to accept the computers back and refund the money. Did they?

 

[oddice]

Originally posted by: nater
did people actually get checks from the CD thing?

I never got mine

 

[pxc]

Greedy people.

If you qualified for EPP/FSS, you got the $510 in rebates as promised (or more if you also went for the extended warranty rebate). If you got over $510 (or $510 + warranty rebate), there is absolutlely no reason to complain. I received $610 in rebates on this deal.

If you didn't qualify for EPP/FSS, Dell offered to give you a refund or a smaller rebate.

I hope everyone who joins this suit gets NOTHING.

 

[Miramonti]

Originally posted by: pxc
Greedy people. If you qualified for EPP/FSS, you got the $510 in rebates as promised (or more if you also went for the extended warranty rebate). If you got over $510 (or $510 + warranty rebate), there is absolutlely no reason to complain. I received $610 in rebates on this deal. If you didn't qualify for EPP/FSS, Dell offered to give you a refund or a smaller rebate. I hope everyone who joins this suit gets NOTHING.

so then how much did it cost you overall?

 

[pxc]

Originally posted by: jjsole

Originally posted by: pxc
Greedy people. If you qualified for EPP/FSS, you got the $510 in rebates as promised (or more if you also went for the extended warranty rebate). If you got over $510 (or $510 + warranty rebate), there is absolutlely no reason to complain. I received $610 in rebates on this deal. If you didn't qualify for EPP/FSS, Dell offered to give you a refund or a smaller rebate. I hope everyone who joins this suit gets NOTHING.

so then how much did it cost you overall?

With a P4 2.4, 256MB, Radeon 9700, SB Live! 5.1 and 48x24x48 CD-RW: $240 + tax + my own shipping after $610 in rebates.

 

[Pothead]

Notice a trend on how these "people" only posts when they want something or of the sort.

 

[wildta]

The problem with Dell and this mishap of denied rebates was that at the time of ordering, the Dell representatives told the customers that they were eligible for all of the rebates (I was told this when I ordered mine). But lo and behold, dell decided to deny some customers one rebate that was not supposed to be accessed by the general public and was only for the EPP (or whatever it was) customers, although the rebate was definitely accessible by anyone through their rebates page at that time. Furthermore, the rebate that was suppose to be limited to the EPP customers did not explicitly state that it was only for these EPP customers.

That's what I got out of it when I was denied my rebate. After several calls to Dell and a complaint to BBB, I still have nothing to show. So I think I'm going to hop on the bandwagon here to claim the rebate that I was told I was elegible for.

 

[dexvx]

Originally posted by: wildta

The problem with Dell and this mishap of denied rebates was that at the time of ordering, the Dell representatives told the customers that they were eligible for all of the rebates (I was told this when I ordered mine). But lo and behold, dell decided to deny some customers one rebate that was not supposed to be accessed by the general public and was only for the EPP (or whatever it was) customers, although the rebate was definitely accessible by anyone through their rebates page at that time. Furthermore, the rebate that was suppose to be limited to the EPP customers did not explicitly state that it was only for these EPP customers.

So let me get this straight. The rebate said clearly it was for EPP customers, and you expect it to go through just because it was readily available to download for the general public?

What a greedy fvck. I'll personally pay for some of the litigation costs if it meant that some of you guys can go to a Federal Pound-Me-In-The-Ass? Prison.

 

[wildta]

FYI:

"The Boston Globe OnlineBoston.com
Boston Globe Online / Business

Dell rebates spin confusion on Web

Mix-up offers lesson on how retail errors can magnify on Net

By Bruce Mohl, Globe Staff, 3/7/2003

Dell Computer Corp. is refusing to pay two rebates worth a combined $200 to thousands of customers who bought Dell hardware late last year after being told they would receive five rebates worth a total of $710 - on computer systems that sold for as little as $800.

A Dell spokesman says the confusion was caused when links to rebates privately targeted at employees at six corporations and faculty, students, and staff at a handful of universities gained wide exposure after being posted on FatWallet.com, a bargain-hunter website.

Dell did little to rein in the resulting stampede. The rebate forms said nothing about their exclusive nature and many consumers, skeptical that $710 in rebates on such inexpensive machines were too good to be true, called Dell's customer service before making their purchase and received assurances they were eligible.

''If I can't ask one of Dell's own people for information, who can I ask?'' said Jason Lowe, a resident physician at the University of California at San Francisco, who so far has received only two of his five rebate checks.

Lowe and other consumers caught up in the rebate mix-up say Dell offered the rebates to inflate sales during its fourth quarter, which turned out to be its best ever, and is now reneging on the offer to keep its margins up. Revenue at the computer maker increased 21 percent to $9.7 billion during the quarter, while net income rose 32 percent to $603 million.

Dean Kline, a spokesman for the Round Rock, Texas, company, minimized the financial impact of the rebates. He estimated fewer than 3,000 people would be affected by the company's decision not to honor all five rebates, costing those individuals about $600,000 in lost rebates.

''Obviously, we regret the confusion that happened,'' Kline said. ''Right now we are working as closely as we can with customers to explain what happened and get them the rebates they are owed as fast as we can.''

The case illustrates how the Internet is changing the way companies and customers interact. A minor mistake in a rebate or a coupon used to involve only a handful of consumers and could be resolved quickly and quietly. Now, with the rise of Internet forums patrolled by what amounts to nearly full-time bargain hunters, a minor glitch can quickly mushroom into a huge public relations and financial problem.

Many companies view websites like FatWallet, Anandtech

.com, and Mycoupons.com as the enemy. Wal-Mart Stores Inc. sued FatWallet in December, trying to find out who posted information on a Thanksgiving Day sale prior to the holiday. The retailer later withdrew the suit. Staples Inc. has had to contend with FatWallet postings directing consumers to exploit pricing mistakes or price-match guarantees. On Feb. 23, the Framingham office supply retailer changed its price-match-guarantee policy to exclude Internet retailers, largely because company officials found themselves spending so much time trying to figure out if website prices were legitimate.

''I think every large retailer has had a run-in with FatWallet,'' said Staples spokeswoman Deborah Hohler.

Tim Storm, president and founder of FatWallet, did not return phone calls.

Dell's rebate problems may have been exacerbated by FatWallet, but they weren't caused by the website. Dell says it offered three rebates totaling $510 on the Dimension 8250 desktop computer as part of its faculty, student, and staff program. Separately, it offered a $100 rebate on the same computer to employees at six corporations and a second $100 rebate on the computer to faculty, students, and staff at a handful of undisclosed universities. Those eligible for the rebates, who Kline refused to identify, were directed to a ''private URL'' to obtain the rebate form.

Toward the end of the offer periods for the rebates, a posting appeared on FatWallet saying the five rebates could be combined. A slew of consumers pounced on the notice, contacted the company to make sure they qualified, and ordered their computers.

''When I first saw this, I thought it was too good to believe,'' said Bo Pang, a student at Boston University. ''That's why I called Dell and they told me, `Yes, no problem.'''

The five rebate forms were all available on the Dell website. Their wording was also nearly identical, with no disclaimers about the rebates being available to a select group. In fact, the two rebate forms targeted at the smaller groups say the rebates ''can be combined with any promotion at Dell Education Personal Purchase Program Website going on from Nov. 11 to Nov. 27.''

Kline, the Dell spokesman, acknowledged company sales representatives gave out misleading information about who qualified. Nevertheless, the company decided not to approve rebate applications from ''ineligible customers stemming from the unauthorized posting on FatWallet,'' according to a posting on Dell's website.

Dell's refusal to honor the rebates has spawned an avalanche of anger on FatWallet. More than 5,000 postings have been made there on the rebate issue, with many consumers trying to coordinate legal action against Dell.

''As most people see it, Dell made an offer that was subsequently accepted by those that purchased the system,'' said Michael Blitch of Tampa, who plans a filing in small claims court.

Edgar Dworsky, editor of Consumerworld.org and a former consumer official in the state attorney general's office, said many consumers had to know that the Dell deal was too good to be true. But he said the fact that Dell representatives told many consumers that they were eligible for all five rebates raises liability issues for the company.

Kip O'Connell of Newburg, Ind., whose wife took advantage of the Dell rebates to purchase a computer he admits they didn't really need, said it's not uncommon for bargain hunters to turn up deals that cost little or nothing. He said it's called F.A.R. in Internet lingo, for free after rebate.

''It happens,'' he said. ''Who are we to guess why?''

Bruce Mohl can be reached at mohl@globe.com.

This story ran on page E1 of the Boston Globe on 3/7/2003.
© Copyright 2003 Globe Newspaper Company."

 

[Lanyap]

Dude, where's my lawyer?


Dude, where's my lock?


Dude, why didn't you post this in the original thread?


Dude, where's RossMAN?


Dude?