Classy guy, this Saddam

MacBaine

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They'll shoot them... that's what they are trained to do.

"A bullet coming from the gun of a 14-year old is just as lethal as that coming from a 40-year old.)
 

rickn

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a person with a gun capable of shooting you is a person with a gun. age is irrelevant. But I do agree that Saddam is one fvscked up rat bastard.
 

Viper GTS

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Originally posted by: MacBaine
They'll shoot them... that's what they are trained to do.

"A bullet coming from the gun of a 14-year old is just as lethal as that coming from a 40-year old.)

There is nothing else to do BUT shoot them, but I wouldn't want to be put in the position to do it.

Viper GTS
 

fluxquantum

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Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Originally posted by: MacBaine
They'll shoot them... that's what they are trained to do.

"A bullet coming from the gun of a 14-year old is just as lethal as that coming from a 40-year old.)

There is nothing else to do BUT shoot them, but I wouldn't want to be put in the position to do it.

Viper GTS

i hear ya
 

Heisenberg

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Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Originally posted by: MacBaine
They'll shoot them... that's what they are trained to do.

"A bullet coming from the gun of a 14-year old is just as lethal as that coming from a 40-year old.)

There is nothing else to do BUT shoot them, but I wouldn't want to be put in the position to do it.

Viper GTS

Yep. Unfortunate but true.
 

Fencer128

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I wouldn't worry too much - over in Isreal/Palestine kids seem to be getting killed/shot/blown up with monotinous regularity.

Andy
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: Fencer128
I wouldn't worry too much - over in Isreal/Palestine kids seem to be getting killed/shot/blown up with monotinous regularity.

Andy

Only difference being, the Israelis don't arm their children and send them to war, while the palestinians do.

 

Fencer128

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Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: Fencer128
I wouldn't worry too much - over in Isreal/Palestine kids seem to be getting killed/shot/blown up with monotinous regularity.

Andy

Only difference being, the Israelis don't arm their children and send them to war, while the palestinians do.

And the Israeli's have tanks and helicopter gunships - the palestinians don't. What is your point as regards to my first post exactly?

Cheers,

Andy
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: Fencer128
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: Fencer128
I wouldn't worry too much - over in Isreal/Palestine kids seem to be getting killed/shot/blown up with monotinous regularity.

Andy

Only difference being, the Israelis don't arm their children and send them to war, while the palestinians do.

And the Israeli's have tanks and helicopter gunships - the palestinians don't. What is your point as regards to my first post exactly?

Cheers,

Andy
Sorry but the "leveling the playing field" arguement is played out. Morality is morality, simple and period. Either you arm your children and send them to war, or you don't, regardless of what weapons your opponent carries. You do that, and you've lost your morality. Even in war, there are rules.



 

Fencer128

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Sorry but the "leveling the playing field" arguement is played out. Morality is morality, simple and period. Either you arm your children and send them to war, or you don't, regardless of what weapons your opponent carries. You do that, and you've lost your morality. Even in war, there are rules.

Well, I couldn't agree more - though I would also say that shooting children comes under that "morality" description too. I don't see that morality can be argued (in the wider sense) when the US stands so steadfastly behind such an Israeli regime as exists today.

Andy
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: Fencer128
Sorry but the "leveling the playing field" arguement is played out. Morality is morality, simple and period. Either you arm your children and send them to war, or you don't, regardless of what weapons your opponent carries. You do that, and you've lost your morality. Even in war, there are rules.

Well, I couldn't agree more - though I would also say that shooting children comes under that "morality" description too. I don't see that morality can be argued (in the wider sense) when the US stands so steadfastly behind such an Israeli regime as exists today.

Andy

Because Israel is democratically elected. We support democratically elected states, even when they are heavy-handed in their civil affairs. Kids throw rocks and firebombs....good chance they will get shot. Pick up an AK-47, chances go up even more. If I was in riot gear and they were hucking rocks and firebombs at me, I might not think twice about squeezing off a few rounds.

 

alchemize

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And why can't a thread be posted about Iraq/Hussein without bringing Israel/Palestine into it. You think Saddam gives 2 cents about palestenians?
 

Fencer128

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Because Israel is democratically elected. We support democratically elected states, even when they are heavy-handed in their civil affairs.
That's the biggest understatement I've heard in a while! The US doesn't just limit itself to democracy - or oppressive ones at that, it also supports regimes such as Pakistan's.

Kids throw rocks and firebombs....good chance they will get shot. Pick up an AK-47, chances go up even more. If I was in riot gear and they were hucking rocks and firebombs at me, I might not think twice about squeezing off a few rounds.

I'm glad you don't live there then. Much more likely that you'd be firing from a tank from what I can see.

Andy
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: Fencer128
Because Israel is democratically elected. We support democratically elected states, even when they are heavy-handed in their civil affairs.
That's the biggest understatement I've heard in a while! The US doesn't just limit itself to democracy - or oppressive ones at that, it also supports regimes such as Pakistan's.

Kids throw rocks and firebombs....good chance they will get shot. Pick up an AK-47, chances go up even more. If I was in riot gear and they were hucking rocks and firebombs at me, I might not think twice about squeezing off a few rounds.

I'm glad you don't live there then. Much more likely that you'd be firing from a tank from what I can see.

Andy
More likely a helicopter gunship or F-16.
 

Syringer

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Well we have GI Joe and toy guns..and it's hardly surprising news to hear of an 8-year-old shooting someone else in school.
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: Syringer
Well we have GI Joe and toy guns..and it's hardly surprising news to hear of an 8-year-old shooting someone else in school.

And we have folks like Andy that try to justify suicide bombers and terrorists.

 

Fencer128

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Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: Syringer
Well we have GI Joe and toy guns..and it's hardly surprising news to hear of an 8-year-old shooting someone else in school.

And we have folks like Andy that try to justify suicide bombers and terrorists.

That's just BS. I have in no way Condoned that! :| You take my lack of support for an oppressive Israeli regime to be support for a pro-terrorist Palestinian approach! Neither is the right course - but the US can exert influence over Israel to de-escalate.

Andy
 

Zblan

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Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: Fencer128
Sorry but the "leveling the playing field" arguement is played out. Morality is morality, simple and period. Either you arm your children and send them to war, or you don't, regardless of what weapons your opponent carries. You do that, and you've lost your morality. Even in war, there are rules.

Well, I couldn't agree more - though I would also say that shooting children comes under that "morality" description too. I don't see that morality can be argued (in the wider sense) when the US stands so steadfastly behind such an Israeli regime as exists today.

Andy

Because Israel is democratically elected. We support democratically elected states, even when they are heavy-handed in their civil affairs. Kids throw rocks and firebombs....good chance they will get shot. Pick up an AK-47, chances go up even more. If I was in riot gear and they were hucking rocks and firebombs at me, I might not think twice about squeezing off a few rounds.

Well if Isreal is a democracy, why can't the Palestinian Population vote in the elections?
 
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