Clawhammer 3400+ At 2.6GHz?

[jaybee]

Everyone still reading this thread do the following and post your results:
- Boot your computer
- Shift into neutral
- Go to Start -> Run -> "format c:"
- Wait for green light
- Accelerate to top speed
- Hit Ctrl-Alt-Del
- Jump out of car

18.7 seconds here
jaybee

PS Starbucks "Mud Pie"

 

[mechBgon]

Originally posted by: jbond04

Originally posted by: mechBgon
jbond04, it will be interesting to see your result with both very fast RAM and a RAID as well. I'll try it on my work system too, for the heck of it.

What's in your system at work?

My work system is named "Turbo"

Here are my results with Turbo:

• CPU: AthlonXP 1700+ at stock speed (1466MHz)
  
• RAM: 768Mb Crucial PC2100, SPD timings, default speed
  
• Motherboard: Asus A7V333-R
  
• OS: Win2000 Pro
  
• Hard drive/controller: Seagate Cheetah X15-36LP/Adaptec 19160
  
• Favorite flavor of ice cream: Baskin Robbins World Class Chocolate

Result: 3 minutes 19 seconds

From comparing these results to my Duron system with the standard ice cream, I think we can all see that upgrading to a premium ice cream is extremely beneficial... thanks for the tip, Wingnut PEZ! If I have time after work, I will also try this with just 256Mb of RAM and see what effect that has... stay tuned.

 

[Wingznut]

Seems like HD is just as important (actually, more so) than cpu/memory.

 

[SSXeon5]

Originally posted by: jbond04

Originally posted by: SSXeon5

And like I have said I am planing to buy the 2.53GHz on aug 25th/sept 1st when it drops to $250, that is a weeks paycheck for me And I will post benchies and shut everyone up once and for all

SSXeon

If you want me to post benches, just tell me. I've got a 2.53GHz P4 running on an Asus P4T533-C w/ 1GB of PC1066 RDRAM. No [non OC'ed] DDR chipset can compete with that (yet). Seriously, just tell me which ones to run and I'll go for it.

NICE!! Post em and btw the new Sis648 comes close, but not too close Post as may benchies as you can and pics, i wana see the beast thanx

Originally posted by: CrazySaint

Why does it seem like you always agree with my counterpoints, then bring up more inaccurate/irrelevent points for me to counterpoint? Anyway, PC-800 is hardly "horrible". In most benchmarks, the difference between PC800, PC1066 and PC2700 is practically insignificant. So to blame the results on the use of PC800 is silly.

So, you're saying that PR rating is crap because P4s are faster than Athlon XPs, yet its not "fair" to compare XPs with P4s until some fancy new P4 chipset comes out?

Athlons can only USE PC2100, and 333FSB Athlons haven't been announced yet, but if AMD DOES release a 333FSB Barton, you can be sure that that, along with the 512KB cache, will provide a nice performance boost for the Athlons, as well.

I'm sure HT will be impressive, but even when paired with GB, I think 30% may be bit optimistic.

Um i845G and DDR333 cas2 is by far faster then PC-800, or did you even know that?

I said the PR is crap without GB or anyother thing out, when they can just base there whole PR on what they "think" is comparable to a P4. Have you even seen the HT performance, it goes 15-30% with just HT, and leme guess you didnt see the Hardocp preview of the GB. They took it down for some reason and it did exactly as i predicted, matched and beat PC-1066 only at cas2.5, thats not even taking into account what will happen with later ver with cas2 enabled (you know cas2 is faster then cas2.5, just to make sure ) .

And the only "speculations" I have made is about the hammer and 333Mhz fsb athlons, my GB and HT info has already been proved. So dont make me look like im pulling this out of my ass, im acually bringing up points about amds future. So get off my case.

SSXeon

 

[jbond04]

Originally posted by: Wingznut PEZ
Seems like HD is just as important (actually, more so) than cpu/memory.

I would concur.

1 minute, 27 seconds here. :Q


Intel Pentium 4B 2.53GHz
1GB PC1066 RDRAM
Asus P4T533-C
(2) 40GB IBM 120GXP's (7200 RPM)
Promise Fasttrak100 (running in RAID 0)

I think that the hard drives are the biggest factor in this test.

And SSXeon5, I'll do my best to get some benches and pics up later tonight.

 

[kingbob]

I don't really know if this has anything to do with this topic but...I saw an article on Megagames where a 1.3 Ghz Duron beat a 1.3Ghz Celeron, AND a 1.7Ghz P4!

 

[Wingznut]

Originally posted by: kingbob
I don't really know if this has anything to do with this topic but...

Well... not really. Epecially if you don't specify the context in which the article was written.

 

[mechBgon]

Originally posted by: jbond04

Originally posted by: Wingznut PEZ
Seems like HD is just as important (actually, more so) than cpu/memory.

I would concur.

1 minute, 27 seconds here. :Q


Intel Pentium 4B 2.53GHz
1GB PC1066 RDRAM
Asus P4T533-C
(2) 40GB IBM 120GXP's (7200 RPM)
Promise Fasttrak100 (running in RAID 0)

I think that the hard drives are the biggest factor in this test.

And SSXeon5, I'll do my best to get some benches and pics up later tonight.

That's more like what I was expecting. I think the PC1066 RDRAM should get some/most of the credit for that excellent speed, since RAID0 is only beneficial on the read side of the process, not writes. I'll do a second run with my slower hard drive (Quantum Atlas 10k) as well as with less RAM, after I get off work in a few hours.

Mr. Xeon, if you've seen any benchmarks of Q3 with HT enabled versus disabled, please share with the group so we can check it out.

 

[rIpTOr]

Originally posted by: SSXeon5

Originally posted by: drogue


-Pentium 4 2.26GHz Retail $234.00
-Abit BG7 i845G $120.00
-512MB Samsung PC2700 $132.00

Total: $483.00

-Athlon XP 2200+ OEM $208.00
-Coolermaster HHC-001 $26.00
-EPOX 8K3A+ Kt333 $120.00
-512MB Samsung PC2700 $132.00

Total $486.00

Hmm looks around the same to me And that 2.26 can oc to 3Ghz air easy, the XP 2.0GHz if your lucky. I have only seen 2 peeps get it to 2GHz, ive seen a few 1950Mhz

So your whole theary is shot anyways ... but like i said .... the 2.53Ghz (FLAGSHIP PROCESSOR) eats the 2200+ (FLAGSHIP PROCESSOR at this point, and man .... aug 25th .... I cant wait!

SSXeon

Umm where the hell are you getting your prices from?
I buy everything from newegg.com and newegg has an XP2200+ OEM for $175 and its no special sale either. While the 2.26 P4 is $269(BOX)

 

[SSXeon5]

Originally posted by: rIpTOr


Umm where the hell are you getting your prices from?
I buy everything from newegg.com and newegg has an XP2200+ OEM for $175 and its no special sale either. While the 2.26 P4 is $269(BOX)

Um googlegear.com bud, and now its:

-Athlon XP 2200+ OEM $152.00
-Pentium 4 2.26Ghz Retail $233.00

So eat me

SSXeon

 

[yodayoda]

man, whenever i see SSXeon5 in a thread, i just have to jump in...

continuing the car analogy, consider my vehicle. it is a BMW with a 1.1L engine, putting out under 100 hp. what is the 0-60 time? 3.8 sec! how is that? well, it is a motorcycle. that is what it is like when you compare your P4 with a 20-stage pipeline CPU and the Athlon with its 10/12 stage pipeline. i don't know why you get so worked up about this sh*t, considering you are poking around with a PIII chip yourself. also of note, my car is a 2002 Subaru Impreza WRX. only a 2.0L engine, but it puts out 226 hp and does 0-60 in under 6 sec. it is not just brute clockspeed or displacement, it is also how you use it.

here is a parting shot. do you know that old joke about discussion forums?: how is winning an argument in a discussion forum like winning the Special Olympics? either way, SSXeon5 is retarded.

 

[SSXeon5]

Originally posted by: jbond04

Originally posted by: Wingznut PEZ
Seems like HD is just as important (actually, more so) than cpu/memory.

I would concur.

1 minute, 27 seconds here. :Q


Intel Pentium 4B 2.53GHz
1GB PC1066 RDRAM
Asus P4T533-C
(2) 40GB IBM 120GXP's (7200 RPM)
Promise Fasttrak100 (running in RAID 0)

I think that the hard drives are the biggest factor in this test.

And SSXeon5, I'll do my best to get some benches and pics up later tonight.

Holy Sh*t thats fast, yeah man thanks, i wana see that beast

Originally posted by: yodayoda
man, whenever i see SSXeon5 in a thread, i just have to jump in...

continuing the car analogy, consider my vehicle. it is a BMW with a 1.1L engine, putting out under 100 hp. what is the 0-60 time? 3.8 sec! how is that? well, it is a motorcycle. that is what it is like when you compare your P4 with a 20-stage pipeline CPU and the Athlon with its 10/12 stage pipeline. i don't know why you get so worked up about this sh*t, considering you are poking around with a PIII chip yourself. also of note, my car is a 2002 Subaru Impreza WRX. only a 2.0L engine, but it puts out 226 hp and does 0-60 in under 6 sec. it is not just brute clockspeed or displacement, it is also how you use it.

here is a parting shot. do you know that old joke about discussion forums?: how is winning an argument in a discussion forum like winning the Special Olympics? either way, SSXeon5 is retarded.

ahahahah do you think your really funny, go tell your dad that little boy. Wooptie I have a p3, does that make you cool that you pointed that out

And o wow, a crouch rocket, and how does that have anything to do with a cpu to a cpu when you compared a car to a motorcycle

Some people

SSXeon

 

[drogue]

ugh, i hate to do this, but i have to agree with the ugly green guy....i'd take a chevy over a ford any day.
i've driven many mustangs, hoping each time to like them.....and i did, so long as i was driving in a straight line. anytime i tried to turn, it felt like i was driving a brick with little plastic wheels. they have decentish power (well, a GT or Cobra version at least), but the drivetrain is horribly inefficient. problem with them is that their power is rated on the flywheel, not at the wheels, where power really matters.
now, i've driven 3 corvettes in my life (my shining accomplishment is test driving a ferrari 550 maranello - but i wont tell that story right now..it'd take to long ) a '63 stingray, a '00 ME Edition, and a '01 Z06. i fell in love instantly with all three cars ('cept the '63, took me a while to get used that 12lb clutch). they handle like a dream, they're fast, and they're looks are nothing short of stellar.
i agree with everyone's sentiments on the camaros - they are much better off dead. they CAN be fast..sorta...but they are just so f'ing ugly.
i know i quoted some porsche speeds/prices a while back, but i'm nota big porsche fan myself...i'd much rather have a ferrari 360 modena than a 911 GT2.

oh btw: i actually saw a venom 800tt today, still funny looking but good lord its fast.



umm, along the computer aspect of this thread:
well, i'm not sure what the computer aspect of this thread is anymore...
i'd run the benchmark that guy invented, but a) i dont have UT (sorry, i'm broke, i'll confess my sins later) b)i dont think my 600mhz slot a athlon is much up to the task, for that matter, neither is my HD, memory, or anything else and c) i gotta go to the beach in about 10 minutes
sooo.. with that thought in mind, i'm not even real sure why i bothered posting this, except that maybe ya'll forgot me.

oh yeah, anyone here play the medal of honor demo (yeah, the demo, i'm broke remember?) on GS? if so, please send me a pm with your GS name

 

[jbond04]

Originally posted by: mechBgon
That's more like what I was expecting. I think the PC1066 RDRAM should get some/most of the credit for that excellent speed, since RAID0 is only beneficial on the read side of the process, not writes.

Actually, I think a lot of the performance increase can be attributed to my favorite flavor of ice cream, which I forgot to post.

"UMPQUA DAIRY CHOCOLATE CHIP COOKIE DOUGH"

Also, I'm not so sure that RAID 0 is only beneficial in reads, since it could take a file it wanted to write, then split it up to be written, much like the way RAID 0 reads a file. I could be wrong, but theoretically, they shouldn't offer the same benefits going both ways?

And SSXeon5, I'll start a new thread with my benches and pictures later tonight. This one's getting a bit long in the tooth (read: off topic).

 

[SSXeon5]

Originally posted by: drogue
ugh, i hate to do this, but i have to agree with the ugly green guy....i'd take a chevy over a ford any day.
i've driven many mustangs, hoping each time to like them.....and i did, so long as i was driving in a straight line. anytime i tried to turn, it felt like i was driving a brick with little plastic wheels. they have decentish power (well, a GT or Cobra version at least), but the drivetrain is horribly inefficient. problem with them is that their power is rated on the flywheel, not at the wheels, where power really matters.
now, i've driven 3 corvettes in my life (my shining accomplishment is test driving a ferrari 550 maranello - but i wont tell that story right now..it'd take to long ) a '63 stingray, a '00 ME Edition, and a '01 Z06. i fell in love instantly with all three cars ('cept the '63, took me a while to get used that 12lb clutch). they handle like a dream, they're fast, and they're looks are nothing short of stellar.
i agree with everyone's sentiments on the camaros - they are much better off dead. they CAN be fast..sorta...but they are just so f'ing ugly.
i know i quoted some porsche speeds/prices a while back, but i'm nota big porsche fan myself...i'd much rather have a ferrari 360 modena than a 911 GT2.

oh btw: i actually saw a venom 800tt today, still funny looking but good lord its fast.



umm, along the computer aspect of this thread:
well, i'm not sure what the computer aspect of this thread is anymore...
i'd run the benchmark that guy invented, but a) i dont have UT (sorry, i'm broke, i'll confess my sins later) b)i dont think my 600mhz slot a athlon is much up to the task, for that matter, neither is my HD, memory, or anything else and c) i gotta go to the beach in about 10 minutes
sooo.. with that thought in mind, i'm not even real sure why i bothered posting this, except that maybe ya'll forgot me.

oh yeah, anyone here play the medal of honor demo (yeah, the demo, i'm broke remember?) on GS? if so, please send me a pm with your GS name

HEY!! why doen everyone hate to agree with me lol, and you test drove my dream car damn you!!!!

550maranello ......... mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ..... you have to tell me the story Yeah this thread has gone to sh*t and i am too to blame, for giving in to there picking at me Well say what you like about the camaro's, they as so nice looking and fast as hell. Ill post picks eventually when i get it in nov or whenever

SSXeon

 

[SSXeon5]

Originally posted by: jbond04

Originally posted by: mechBgon
That's more like what I was expecting. I think the PC1066 RDRAM should get some/most of the credit for that excellent speed, since RAID0 is only beneficial on the read side of the process, not writes.

Actually, I think a lot of the performance increase can be attributed to my favorite flavor of ice cream, which I forgot to post.

"UMPQUA DAIRY CHOCOLATE CHIP COOKIE DOUGH"

Also, I'm not so sure that RAID 0 is only beneficial in reads, since it could take a file it wanted to write, then split it up to be written, much like the way RAID 0 reads a file. I could be wrong, but theoretically, they shouldn't offer the same benefits going both ways?

And SSXeon5, I'll start a new thread with my benches and pictures later tonight. This one's getting a bit long in the tooth (read: off topic).

True and can this thread FU*KING DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DT DT DT DT!!!!!!!!! anyways yeah that will be awsome, a gig of PC-1066 god thats amazing!

SSXeon

 

[rIpTOr]

Lets all postpone our AMD vs Intel stuff until later on when the K8 gets released. Then we shall see Because now everything has been said and doesn't need to be said again.

I seriously doubt that AMD will be giving up anytime soon. They are already looking to assemble a team for the K9. AMD is going after Intel bigtime. (Thats an extremely good thing btw)

Uh anyway SSX do you know if googlegear accepts money orders? If so they just became my new best friend!

Here's some info on The Hammer
Look at its HSF!

 

[SSXeon5]

Originally posted by: rIpTOr
Lets all postpone our AMD vs Intel stuff until later on when the K8 gets released. Then we shall see Because now everything has been said and doesn't need to be said again.

I seriously doubt that AMD will be giving up anytime soon. They are already looking to assemble a team for the K9. AMD is going after Intel bigtime. (Thats an extremely good thing btw)

Uh anyway SSX do you know if googlegear accepts money orders? If so they just became my new best friend!

Here's some info on The Hammer
Look at its HSF!

Dunno? Are you being sarcastic? Cuz i seriously dont know, I just do it throught credit card and they are very fast and great prices. I have to say that is by far the greatest price/performance cpu, tho I hate to admit it

SSXeon

 

[mechBgon]

For those who are interested, I tried my "Squish & Tell" benchmark using my slower SCSI drive, as well as with 256Mb of RAM instead of 768Mb. I also tried dropping the RAM timings from SPD (2.5-3-3-6) to 2.0-2-2-6 and also tried 2.5-3-3-6 at PC2700 speeds (which the Crucial PC2100 is handling fine so far).

Bottom line, the drop to 256Mb has put the Squish & Tell times from 3:19 to 3:22. The other changes are not making any difference, including using the slower hard drive (WinZip does create the Zip file on the faster drive and then transfer it over when it's done, but it was reading from the old drive as the source. The actual construction of the Zip file took about the same time, 3:24).

So I'm thinking this may have to do mostly with the CPU/memory/motherboard bandwidth. Or the ice cream Anyone going to try to take that trophy away from jbond04...? At least WinZip is a highly relevant benchmark to what many of us do with our computers, so I'd be interested to hear more results.

 

[jbond04]

Wow...those results that you have are quite interesting. Since Wingznut PEZ ran the benchmark on his 2.4GHz, then I can only assume that it is the bandwidth of the PC1066 RDRAM that is responsible for my fast compression times. For the record, how big is your compressed file? Mine is 381MB.

 

[mechBgon]

Mine shows as

"Size: 380 MB (398,488,978 bytes)" so it sounds like the same result, or close enough.

 

[Steppy]

Good to see you still live on Fantasy Island where DDR outperforms RDRAM SSXeon. Oh, and predicting that a solution with 5.4 GB/s of bandwidth will beat one with 4.2 doesn't make you Nostradamus. DC DDR is probably gonna end up being a more expensive solution than a RIMM 4200 mobo combo most likely...but now that DDR needs to be installed in pairs, the mobo's will likely be pretty expensive, and you're more likely to have to toss ram out at upgrade time...it's all good right? Funny how DDR is adopting ALL the things that people hated most about RDRAM but people hail it as awesome, and RDRAM is adopting all the things that made DDR the "shiznit" but it sucks.

 

[SSXeon5]

Originally posted by: Steppy
Good to see you still live on Fantasy Island where DDR outperforms RDRAM SSXeon. Oh, and predicting that a solution with 5.4 GB/s of bandwidth will beat one with 4.2 doesn't make you Nostradamus. DC DDR is probably gonna end up being a more expensive solution than a RIMM 4200 mobo combo most likely...but now that DDR needs to be installed in pairs, the mobo's will likely be pretty expensive, and you're more likely to have to toss ram out at upgrade time...it's all good right? Funny how DDR is adopting ALL the things that people hated most about RDRAM but people hail it as awesome, and RDRAM is adopting all the things that made DDR the "shiznit" but it sucks.

You know I wanted this thread to die, but look more idiots came and kept crapping on my thread. Ok Granite Bay is duel channel DDR266, that means 4.2gb/s not 5.4gb/s

And it will be a bit more for the board, about $160-180 im guessing, but ONCE AGAIN PC2100 is about $100 for 512MB, and with RDRAM @ 800MHz is about the same price for 256MB Stick. And the GB with DC PC2100 at hardocp @ cas2.5 tied and beat PC1066 in a bunch of things. Only being at cas2.5 is amazing, now can you stop picking a fight with me and and stop making yourself look like a dumbass

SSXeon

 

[CrazySaint]

Originally posted by: SSXeon5

Originally posted by: CrazySaint

Why does it seem like you always agree with my counterpoints, then bring up more inaccurate/irrelevent points for me to counterpoint? Anyway, PC-800 is hardly "horrible". In most benchmarks, the difference between PC800, PC1066 and PC2700 is practically insignificant. So to blame the results on the use of PC800 is silly.

So, you're saying that PR rating is crap because P4s are faster than Athlon XPs, yet its not "fair" to compare XPs with P4s until some fancy new P4 chipset comes out?

Athlons can only USE PC2100, and 333FSB Athlons haven't been announced yet, but if AMD DOES release a 333FSB Barton, you can be sure that that, along with the 512KB cache, will provide a nice performance boost for the Athlons, as well.

I'm sure HT will be impressive, but even when paired with GB, I think 30% may be bit optimistic.

Um i845G and DDR333 cas2 is by far faster then PC-800, or did you even know that?

Actually, I didn't know that, mostly because to the best of my knowledge, its not true. Check the benchmarks in this review at AT. Near as I can tell, there's not a huge difference between DDR, PC800, and PC1066. Certainly not enough to have a bearing on the PR ratings.

I said the PR is crap without GB or anyother thing out, when they can just base there whole PR on what they "think" is comparable to a P4.

And I pointed out that whatever they may use as the basis of their PR rating, it appears to be pretty fair.

Have you even seen the HT performance, it goes 15-30% with just HT

Got any links?

and leme guess you didnt see the Hardocp preview of the GB. They took it down for some reason and it did exactly as i predicted, matched and beat PC-1066 only at cas2.5, thats not even taking into account what will happen with later ver with cas2 enabled (you know cas2 is faster then cas2.5, just to make sure ) .

Actually, I did, and it looks impressive. IIRC, I beat PC1066 by about 3-5%.

And the only "speculations" I have made is about the hammer and 333Mhz fsb athlons, my GB and HT info has already been proved.

Until I see proof that HT increases performance by over 20%, I still say that 30% between HT and GB is optimistic.

So dont make me look like im pulling this out of my ass, im acually bringing up points about amds future. So get off my case.

Dude, chill. I'm not anybody's case. This is a technology forum, we're discussing technology.

yodayoda said:

here is a parting shot. do you know that old joke about discussion forums?: how is winning an argument in a discussion forum like winning the Special Olympics? either way, SSXeon5 is retarded.

Man, grow up. We're talking about freakin' cars and technology here, insulting each other over it is just stupid.

 

[rIpTOr]

Originally posted by: SSXeon5
You know I wanted this thread to die, but look more idiots came and kept crapping on my thread. Ok Granite Bay is duel channel DDR266, that means 4.2gb/s not 5.4gb/s

And it will be a bit more for the board, about $160-180 im guessing, but ONCE AGAIN PC2100 is about $100 for 512MB, and with RDRAM @ 800MHz is about the same price for 256MB Stick. SSXeon

Hmm I just bought a Crucial PC2100 512MB stick for $140. DDRII is gonna be off the charts I remember only a month ago 256MB PC2100 was $40 now its $70