Cletus Can Carry Concealed!

[Zorkorist]

Federal Bullshit?

-John

 

[Zorkorist]

Little Tinkerbell may be hurt if someone carries a gun within 1000' of a school?

-John

 

[Darwin333]

Point is you could arrest them for carrying a gun.
Again does this law mean a gang can carry concealed pistols legally?

Not if they are convicted felons which basically means that if it was a shall issue state they could have paid their $50 (or whatever) and got a concealed carry permit to begin with.

 

[MagickMan]

the didnt call it the wild west because it was the outdoors. This will be fun to watch.

http://libertarianstandard.com/2010/04/07/how-wild-was-the-wild-west-in-fact/

The murder rates in the USA are 3x higher today than they were in the "Wild West". There was no "Wild West", it's a fucking myth.

 

[JSt0rm]

Not if they are convicted felons which basically means that if it was a shall issue state they could have paid their $50 (or whatever) and got a concealed carry permit to begin with.

thye made "antigang" laws so black people in the ghetto cant carry.

 

[MagickMan]

thye made "antigang" laws so black people in the ghetto cant carry.

They wrote anti-gang laws because young black males kill each other at a rate higher than any other group in the country, by a couple orders of magnitude. In fact, if you removed the black-on-black murders (black men age 18-35) from US statistics, our rate is the same as Canada and Denmark (within the statistical margin of error).

 

[MongGrel]

You took it a bit literally there. I meant in the sense that they are around guns their entire life. In any case, it will be a fantastic experiment to see if crime actually does drop when "everyone knows everyone else is packing heat".

Why would he not take you literally, when you run amok spouting BS 99% of the time.

I know several LEO's that have told me in discussions they would rather open carry was legal, at least you can spot who has weapons easily.

Having concealed without restrictions is a bad idea.

 

[Zorkorist]

Young black men are a tragedy of Government, not guns.

-John

 

[JSt0rm]

They wrote anti-gang laws because young black males kill each other at a rate higher than any other group in the country, by a couple orders of magnitude. In fact, if you removed the black-on-black murders (black men age 18-35) from US statistics, our rate is the same as Canada and Denmark (within the statistical margin of error).

So they removed their rights to have guns because of what they will do? Sounds convenient.

 

[sandorski]

"the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed"

The 2nd Amendment is not changing. GTFO of the USA if you're scared of average Americans carrying guns.

If anti-gun communists cared more about changing the "thug-life" culture instead of trying to institute a nanny state they might have more luck with reducing gun violence.



You do realize that gang members walk around carrying guns in every part of the country regardless of what the law is right? Those gun laws sure work great in Chicago! To bad your average joe has to depend on the cops to protect him there...

Skipped over "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State,"

Member of a Well Regulated Militia?

 

[OutHouse]

Cletus Can Carry Concealed!

nice derogatory racist title.

 

[JSt0rm]

Skipped over "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State,"

Member of a Well Regulated Militia?

being white is auto-well regulated militia.

 

[Zorkorist]

We're about done with the Government helping anyone equation, because they haven't.

Stop worrying about Government, and start doing for yourself. Make yourself the best you can be.

-John

 

[JSt0rm]

I did that. But it has nothing to do with guns so I pay taxes to have people do that bit for me.

 

[Victorian Gray]

nice derogatory racist title.

 

[Zorkorist]

At some point it won't matter, and like the zombie movie, a million americans are going to attack you, and your fresh shirt.

If our rights, our personal property rights, our ability to make income, are not respected by the populace, then we are screwed.

-John

 

[JSt0rm]

Pretty sure that's not gonna happen.

 

[MagickMan]

So they removed their rights to have guns because of what they are doing.

FTFY

 

[MagickMan]

Member of a Well Regulated Militia?

"Well Regulated" simply meant well sorted, re. having sufficient equipment. Not that they were gov't regulated, in the modern sense.

http://www.constitution.org/cons/wellregu.htm

"I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials." - George Mason


 

[JSt0rm]

FTFY

But to be clear you are removing an individuals right before they commit a crime because you think they will commit a crime. We could apply that logic to white people as well.

 

[JSt0rm]

"Well Regulated" simply meant well sorted, re. having sufficient equipment. Not that they were gov't regulated, in the modern sense.

http://www.constitution.org/cons/wellregu.htm

"I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials." - George Mason


Interesting.

So the 2nd amendment is for all people unless you come from a certain segment of the population that is more prone to gun violence and then it can be removed based on you being part of that population?

 

[JSt0rm]

Oh no wiki contradicts your link

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sec...ution#Meaning_of_.22well_regulated_militia.22

 

[fourdegrees11]

Skipped over "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State,"

Member of a Well Regulated Militia?

Nothing about that statement implies a requirement for the half I quoted.

In fact what it's saying is that if you take away the right to bear arms a "well regulated militia" is not possible, and that it is necessary for a free state.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Interesting.

So the 2nd amendment is for all people unless you come from a certain segment of the population that is more prone to gun violence and then it can be removed based on you being part of that population?

Who is saying that inner city black men should be banned from owning guns? All I would say (and what I'm assuming others are saying) is that it's D'Claudius that's more likely to shoot someone on the street than Cletus. West Virginia, despite being redneck and poor as hell, has a gun homicide rate below average for the country, and I'd like you to show an example of loosened concealed carry laws resulting in significantly higher gun homicide rates.

 

[JSt0rm]

They made a inclusion in the law called the anti gang rule. This was done so inner city youth can't carry.