Climate Lockdowns!! Oh Noes!

[Fanatical Meat]

Be prepared for when the deplorables you know spout this BS off.
The test/goal is that everythng you need should be within a 15 minute walk or bike ride of where you live. Sounds like a horrible goal to me. How dare some researcher try to make my life easier!

How '15-minute cities' turned into an international conspiracy theory

The idea of 15-minute cities is pretty simple: Everything you need should be within a roughly 15 minute walk or cycle. Yet it has become the subject of a conspiracy theory, fast gaining pace globally, which has rebranded them as "climate lockdowns."

www.cnn.com

 

[Fenixgoon]

Yeah I saw this as well and immediately facepalmed. Fuck I hate how easily people can be misled. Imagine if there were an educated public...

 

[vi edit]

I've lived in just about every size/config of city you can get.
Phoenix (5+ million people over 50 miles of sprawl in every direction)
Small town middle Murica of 2000 people that was 20 miles from anything.
Literal rural/farm/well/septic living
Omaha
Lexington, KY
And now Portland, OR

Portland is like the best of small towns. It's just a bunch of them smushed together. All these little cozy neighborhoods with tons of walkable things near them. Most days of the week I never drive. And for a lot of things it's just faster to walk or bike. I do live in a 15 minute city.

But hey it's a liberal commie antifa wasteland. Somehow this is worse than spending hours a day on a concrete hellscape of interstates and surburan sprawl.

I don't really want to move anywhere else. This is wonderful and the first time I've had this sort of easy availability to things in my life.
More people should try it.

 

[nakedfrog]

I've lived in just about every size/config of city you can get.
Phoenix (5+ million people over 50 miles of sprawl in every direction)
Small town middle Murica of 2000 people that was 20 miles from anything.
Literal rural/farm/well/septic living
Omaha
Lexington, KY
And now Portland, OR

Portland is like the best of small towns. It's just a bunch of them smushed together. All these little cozy neighborhoods with tons of walkable things near them. Most days of the week I never drive. And for a lot of things it's just faster to walk or bike. I do live in a 15 minute city.

But hey it's a liberal commie antifa wasteland. Somehow this is worse than spending hours a day on a concrete hellscape of interstates and surburan sprawl.

I don't really want to move anywhere else. This is wonderful and the first time I've had this sort of easy availability to things in my life.
More people should try it.

Yep, after spending 15 years in a rural town where it was 30-45 minutes to get to anything beyond basic necessities, and now living somewhere where 95% of anything I could want is within a 15 minute drive, it's fantastic. Later this year I'll probably give biking to the store a try (after I've gotten a bike). Wouldn't even have been an option where I used to live, since the only roads connecting us to the city were highways, where you can't bike.
I like Portland but it's a bit much city for me still.

 

[ch33zw1z]

I would love for things to be 15 minutes away and reasonably priced at the same time.

riding my bike to pick supplies would be great IMO, but Some parts of the year it would be very difficult and I’m still gonna be driving under 40F

 

[K1052]

My quality of life has improved a lot moving out of Austin where everything is a terrible 20-40 minute drive to San Diego where most of my daily needs are met within a 5 minute walk of my house. I even have an 01 FFL dealer over on the next block!

 

[nOOky]

No offense, but I've been there 3 times in the past 3 years, there is definitely a trash problem in Portland. It looks shoddy to see abandoned tents and garbage along the roadways.
Otherwise, the beer was pretty good.

I've lived in just about every size/config of city you can get.
Phoenix (5+ million people over 50 miles of sprawl in every direction)
Small town middle Murica of 2000 people that was 20 miles from anything.
Literal rural/farm/well/septic living
Omaha
Lexington, KY
And now Portland, OR

Portland is like the best of small towns. It's just a bunch of them smushed together. All these little cozy neighborhoods with tons of walkable things near them. Most days of the week I never drive. And for a lot of things it's just faster to walk or bike. I do live in a 15 minute city.

But hey it's a liberal commie antifa wasteland. Somehow this is worse than spending hours a day on a concrete hellscape of interstates and surburan sprawl.

I don't really want to move anywhere else. This is wonderful and the first time I've had this sort of easy availability to things in my life.
More people should try it.

 

[vi edit]

No offense, but I've been there 3 times in the past 3 years, there is definitely a trash problem in Portland. It looks shoddy to see abandoned tents and garbage along the roadways.
Otherwise, the beer was pretty good.

And no offense taken. We have problems for sure. Covid just let things sort of run rampant. It's...getting better. But we have a long ways to go. I did a 20 mile bike ride around town a few weeks back and Springwater corridor is about as cleaned out as I've ever seen it. Last few months the city/state has made a big push. But it's all just addressing side effects of larger problems. Cleaning and sweeping just shuffles the problems to some other place the next day. The US still has a raging housing crisis, drug addiction epidemic, and overall mental health issue we don't really acknowledge.

 

[ch33zw1z]

And no offense taken. We have problems for sure. Covid just let things sort of run rampant. It's...getting better. But we have a long ways to go. I did a 20 mile bike ride around town a few weeks back and Springwater corridor is about as cleaned out as I've ever seen it. Last few months the city/state has made a big push. But it's all just addressing side effects of larger problems. Cleaning and sweeping just shuffles the problems to some other place the next day. The US still has a raging housing crisis, drug addiction epidemic, and overall mental health issue we don't really acknowledge.

additionally, my anecdotes point to Americans being lazy and unconcerned by throwing garbage out of their cars. Empty fast food bags, drink cups, etc…

I had one dude literally throw an empty beer bottle onto my driveway once, shattered everywhere and was a real pain to clean up. Wish I got his plate!

 

[vi edit]

additionally, my anecdotes point to Americans being lazy and unconcerned by throwing garbage out of their cars. Empty fast food bags, drink cups, etc…

I had one dude literally throw an empty beer bottle onto my driveway once, shattered everywhere and was a real pain to clean up. Wish I got his plate!

Well, this is a very different level than that. Imagine hundreds of these around town.

 

[repoman0]

No offense, but I've been there 3 times in the past 3 years, there is definitely a trash problem in Portland. It looks shoddy to see abandoned tents and garbage along the roadways.
Otherwise, the beer was pretty good.

That was my experience there as well visiting for the first time last September. In the end I couldn’t wait to get back to my little place just north of Boston. I’ve been on and off for a decade about moving to semi-rural Colorado, California, New Hampshire, etc but I never end up wanting to leave this place. It’s clean, walkable but still quiet, close to the ocean and mountains, and the climate is perfect (for me ). Plus all my friends who move away have moved back eventually, usually within a year or two.

 

[hal2kilo]

Well, this is a very different level than that. Imagine hundreds of these around town.

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Oh, that looks familiar, even out here in the bucolic suburbs. Blue tarp cities just keep popping up, and get cleaned out, and new ones appear. I know housings is limited, but there seems to be no limit in fentanyl, and meth.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Well, this is a very different level than that. Imagine hundreds of these around town.

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yep, understood. I’m not surprised, based on your comments regarding problems and my experience with how humans treat the world around them (not all, but many).

 

[Ajay]

I've lived in just about every size/config of city you can get.
Phoenix (5+ million people over 50 miles of sprawl in every direction)
Small town middle Murica of 2000 people that was 20 miles from anything.
Literal rural/farm/well/septic living
Omaha
Lexington, KY
And now Portland, OR

Portland is like the best of small towns. It's just a bunch of them smushed together. All these little cozy neighborhoods with tons of walkable things near them. Most days of the week I never drive. And for a lot of things it's just faster to walk or bike. I do live in a 15 minute city.

But hey it's a liberal commie antifa wasteland. Somehow this is worse than spending hours a day on a concrete hellscape of interstates and surburan sprawl.

I don't really want to move anywhere else. This is wonderful and the first time I've had this sort of easy availability to things in my life.
More people should try it.

Hmmm. Do you want to share your experiences of living in a septic tank? /s

 

[nakedfrog]

Hmmm. Do you want to share your experiences of living in a septic tank? /s

We lived for three months in a brown paper bag in a septic tank. We used to have to get up at six o'clock in the morning, clean the bag, eat a crust of stale bread, go to work down mill for fourteen hours a day week in-week out. When we got home, our Dad would thrash us to sleep with his belt!

 

[vi edit]

Hmmm. Do you want to share your experiences of living in a septic tank? /s

If you got several them, connected them, and sunk them into the side of a hill you could maybe make a hobbit hole?

 

[Franz316]

Conservative stupidity really knows no bounds. If you called an initiative like this "Classical Small Town America" they'd be all for it.