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manimal

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eco-KOOKS and their warming / cooling / sky is falling BS.

can you look at it objectively without the labels?




Can you admit the possibility that a drought independent of MMCC could have an impact in turmoil in the region?


A flexible mind can look at the sources and admit that the question should be asked.
 

dank69

Lifer
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Must have been all those SUVs the knights marched with during the crusades.



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This is why it is a waste of time to discuss this topic with you. You keep saying you just want to be knowledgeable about the subject before you form an opinion but here you are distorting the MMCC side of the argument. Instead of arguing against the fact that greenhouse gasses can trap heat or the fact that human activity is increasing the amount of greenhouse gas in our atmosphere, you instead argue against the silly argument that the only way earth temp can increase is because of man. That's called a straw man, and you use it because you are demented. An absolute blight on this forum. You are incapable of reasonable thought when it comes to any topic remotely political in nature.
 

Paratus

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For mere speculation as to what we'll be hearing if natural occurrences... occur.

So nothing to backup your assertion. Got it

That sums it up nicely. Medieval Warm Period featured 400+ years worth of drought, with nary a blip of rain in the middle of it... but if history repeats itself we know exactly what you'd be saying. Why would you deny the past, why deny natural causes?

If history repeats itself? So you aren't saying it has and you don't know if it will. You do understand that natural causes are knowable. So are the current causes. If they are the same its natural. If they are not and the new causes are due to man then they are not natural. What scientists call it would be based on that analysis,

Must have been all those SUVs the knights marched with during the crusades.
another example of your ignorance of the medieval warm period


Medieval Warm Period is the most recent warm period on our records. It makes sense that as the Little Ice Age ends, we'll return to what we had before. What your waiting for is 2+2 to equal anything other than 4, that no matter how much I assure you common sense dictates the answer - you will wait for people paid to tell you otherwise.

Your 2+2=4 example is a great description of your blindness. You know the answer is 4 because it make sense. Just like you know the warming due to the little ice age ending. Therefore you know the equation has to be 2+2. It couldn't possibly be 1+3 or 2^2 or anything else. Just like similar droughts MUST be caused by the same reasons as previous droughts, damn the facts that show otherwise
See above
 
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Jaskalas

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That's called a straw man, and you use it because you are demented. An absolute blight on this forum. You are incapable of reasonable thought when it comes to any topic remotely political in nature.

At the foundation of your vitriol is fear, and rightly so. 400 years of extreme drought makes a mockery of you trying to point to a 3 year drought. The existence of the Medieval Warm Period is the end of your argument.

You instead argue against the silly argument that the only way earth temp can increase is because of man.

It's not? Go ahead, tell us how much of the warmth from 1900-present is caused by man.
 

Paratus

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At the foundation of your vitriol is fear, and rightly so. 400 years of extreme drought makes a mockery of you trying to point to a 3 year drought. The existence of the Medieval Warm Period is the end of your argument.



It's not? Go ahead, tell us how much of the warmth from 1900-present is caused by man.

 

fskimospy

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At the foundation of your vitriol is fear, and rightly so. 400 years of extreme drought makes a mockery of you trying to point to a 3 year drought. The existence of the Medieval Warm Period is the end of your argument.

It's not? Go ahead, tell us how much of the warmth from 1900-present is caused by man.

You can't possibly believe that because something can happen in the past by natural variation that we can't use science to figure out if what is happening currently is the result of natural variation or mankinds influence.

Think of what other fields of science such a view might invalidate.
 

Jaskalas

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You can't possibly believe that because something can happen in the past by natural variation that we can't use science to figure out if what is happening currently is the result of natural variation or mankinds influence.

Go ahead, tell us which drought is man made, and which is not.
 

dank69

Lifer
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I can't perform an autopsy, therefore all autopsy results are guesswork and probably heavily biased.
 

fskimospy

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Go ahead, tell us which drought is man made, and which is not.

As you well know, droughts are caused by a lot of factors, of which some in recent years are manmade.

Your logic leads to ignoring large swaths of science. This isn't rational.
 

manimal

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they should have left the priest out there on his own.



oops not the walking dead thread
 
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Subyman

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I can't perform an autopsy, therefore all autopsy results are guesswork and probably heavily biased.

Agreed. I highly disagree with anything I don't understand, but I claim to be an expert in the field.
 

dank69

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Agreed. I highly disagree with anything I don't understand, but I claim to be an expert in the field.
Seriously, billions of people have died from natural causes but these so-called experts think they can determine which deaths were homicides.
 

Subyman

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Seriously, billions of people have died from natural causes but these so-called experts think they can determine which deaths were homicides.

Funny you should say, I happen to be very, very, very well studied in the field of forensic pathology and we just make up the reports. Make a few cuts, weigh a finger, do other medical stuff and then mark up a random report.
 

dank69

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Funny you should say, I happen to be very, very, very well studied in the field of forensic pathology and we just make up the reports. Make a few cuts, weigh a finger, do other medical stuff and then mark up a random report.

You forgot "rifle their pockets" and "copy any porn you find on their phone."
 

Jaskalas

Lifer
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Seriously, billions of people have died from natural causes but these so-called experts think they can determine which deaths were homicides.

Go ahead, determine the man made droughts.

You want to hear denial of climate change? Look in a mirror, where you lunatics started blaming it all on us, as if climate didn't change before the 21st century. Where you have the gal to proclaim EVERY SINGLE weather event is "man made" with zero bullshit to back it up. Hell, for the United States most our weather trends are the opposite direction but your propagandists keep prattling on no matter how badly the facts and the science DESTROYS them.

You are a shallow political movement cloaked in the name of science, but you gotta keep running from empirical evidence. Medieval Warm Period is just the start of your problems.
 
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Subyman

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Go ahead, determine the man made droughts.

You want to hear denial of climate change? Look in a mirror, where you lunatics started blaming it all on us, as if it didn't change before the 21st century.

Quick question for you. Do you believe the carbon levels in the air have increased over the last 100 years?
 

dank69

Lifer
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Go ahead, determine the man made droughts.

You want to hear denial of climate change? Look in a mirror, where you lunatics started blaming it all on us, as if climate didn't change before the 21st century. Where you have the gal to proclaim EVERY SINGLE weather event is "man made" with zero bullshit to back it up. Hell, for the United States most our weather trends are the opposite direction but your propagandists keep prattling on no matter how badly the facts and the science DESTROYS them.

You are a shallow political movement cloaked in the name of science, but you gotta keep running from empirical evidence. Medieval Warm Period is just the start of your problems.
Simple, more heat is trapped in our atmosphere/landmass/oceans due to all the extra greenhouse gasses so every weather event on the entire planet is due to MMCC. If a butterfly flapping its wings in Rio could change the weather in Chicago what do you think increasing the concentration of greenhouse gasses could do?
 
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bshole

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More "scientific" predictions pretending to be news worthy.Keep repeating completely unfalsifiable long term predictions and eventually everybody will believe you. Leave your critical thinking skills at the door please.

Note the use of "could" and "might". Par for the course. How do you quantify "could" or "might"? I "might" FUCK a super model tomorrow, that certainly doesn't mean I will or that it is even probable.

A new report prepared by Zheng Guogang, China&#8217;s top weather scientist, revealed that we will be able to see some detrimental effects caused due to climate change by the end of this century.

The top weather scientist warned that climate change could have a &#8216;huge impact&#8217; on China. For example, it might reduce crop yields and have adverse effect on environment.


http://perfscience.com/content/2141496-climate-change-have-detrimental-effects-china-report
 
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Subyman

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"Might" and "could" are backed by probabilities if you check the report. You banging a super model has a probability of 0%. That is absolutely scientific.

The reports I have seen from projected regional impacts of climate change have bad effects on China. Not so much the US.
 

zinfamous

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More "scientific" predictions pretending to be news worthy.Keep repeating completely unfalsifiable long term predictions and eventually everybody will believe you. Leave your critical thinking skills at the door please.

Note the use of "could" and "might". Par for the course. How do you quantify "could" or "might"? I "might" FUCK a super model tomorrow, that certainly doesn't mean I will or that it is even probable.




http://perfscience.com/content/2141496-climate-change-have-detrimental-effects-china-report

you really shouldn't science.

It clearly isn't anywhere near your wheelhouse.
 

bshole

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Since you appear to know a little bit about science...is the current California drought caused by AGW or not?

Oh no, it did contribute! Lol.

The California drought cost $2.2 billion this year. That is a blip, a minor inconvenience, it is less than Bill Gates makes in a single year. Technology has made this true for most climate events. Events that were once catastrophes in the past are now merely obstacles that we easily overcome, rarely involve large human death tolls and effect the nation barely at all.

Human-caused climate change helped fuel the current California drought, says a Stanford University study released Monday.

Climate change has increased the chance that the two main weather conditions that led to the drought — higher than average temperatures and little rain or snow — will occur at the same time, the study shows.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/weath...ought-climate-change-global-warming/24262559/
 
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