Victorian Gray
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Someone needs to learn some respect for the processes of democracy.
Authoritarians don't believe in the process of democracy.
Someone needs to learn some respect for the processes of democracy.
I would ask you for evidence but you don't even qualify as a carpet bagger when it comes to elections in the US.
I'm still waiting on the pedophile ring to be exposed. The 3 million illegal voters will have to wait.Don't you want to see the YouTube video by tHUNDERfARt TOiLeTpaPer with all the facts? Because you just know that he has the link.
She hasn't legitimately earned anything. she lost. I do think Republicans would be making many of the same comments, people are hacks.This is kind of a DOUBLE WHAMMY against democracy, freedom, and for America.
#1. Republicans blocked and refused to allow a sitting US president (Obama) his constitutional right to have his US Supreme Court justice.
#2. And now... Trump takes the presidency with 2 million votes less that his opponent, but gets to make that US Supreme Court appointment.
Trump was right !!!!!
The system WAS INDEED RIGGED.
Rigged in favor of republicans and against democrats.
No Obama US Supreme Court justice.
And the loser i.e. Trump gets to pick the next US Supreme Court justice.
Hell.... And they wonder why we march and protest.... DUH.
This is totally third world dictatorship at its best.
Who needs commies when we have this system of ours?
Hillary should be president elect. Hillary should be making these decisions. Hillary has earned it and more so has legitimately won it.
And just imagine if this situation were reversed.
Republicans would right now be passing legislation to overturn the outcome of the election. To abolish the electoral college if only for this one time. And to block and deny Hillary from taking office come January 20th.
And they would take this as far as to the US Supreme Court and block Hillary until a court decision is decided.
Republicans are like this....
Democrats are not.
God forbid we elect a president based on the will of the people like we do for literally every other elected office instead of an arbitrary metric that makes some votes more valuable than others due to geographic location.Hillary enjoyed a 1,428,567 vote spread in LA county alone. This is exactly why we have an Electoral College.
http://vote.sos.ca.gov/returns/president/county/los-angeles/
Orange County went blue for the first time since 1936.Hillary enjoyed a 1,428,567 vote spread in LA county alone. This is exactly why we have an Electoral College.
http://vote.sos.ca.gov/returns/president/county/los-angeles/
We don't have any nationwide popular vote for any office.God forbid we elect a president based on the will of the people like we do for literally every other elected office instead of an arbitrary metric that makes some votes more valuable than others due to geographic location.
Really?Orange County went blue for the first time since 1936.
Lots of Mormons in California. What does that have to do with Orange County?Really?
Just looked at 2012 and Romney only lost California by 2.2 million.
Pretty meaningless when the only nationwide vote is for president. Senators, representatives, governors, assemblymen, etc. are all elected by popular vote. Many states have deep divisions much like the United States, but they don't use electoral colleges to give extra voting power to rural areas, they are using popular votes.We don't have any nationwide popular vote for any office.
Incorrect. There are 11 states that already made the move.
http://www.nationalpopularvote.com/status
It looks like that is something that will only actually trigger once enough states sign up? I had no idea it was that (relatively) close to happening though - is it going to be binding on all of the states if it does?
In case anyone is wondering I think it would be an absolutely good idea. Even FPTP for the senate, UK Parliament etc has very real issues, but this one really should be an easier fight to win.
shhhh, you're bursting his bucky bubblePretty meaningless when the only nationwide vote is for president. Senators, representatives, governors, assemblymen, etc. are all elected by popular vote. Many states have deep divisions much like the United States, but they don't use electoral colleges to give extra voting power to rural areas, they are using popular votes.
She hasn't legitimately earned anything. she lost. I do think Republicans would be making many of the same comments, people are hacks.
If you have truly believed this is an issue for America you should be very pissed right now at people beating this pot because they are creating a situation where Republicans will never support it.
Perhaps, but it seems like a rather poor idea to expend political capital on when there were many more pressing issues at the time. Government can do many things at once, but big things often need a significant amount of public focus.What makes it worst is this isn't the first time this has happened- Democrats saw the writing on the wall with Gore, had a huge mandate with Obama, and did nothing. If in 2008 Obama would have said "I didn't need it to win but the system is broken so let's fix this to prevent another Gore situation" then maybe the claim feels legitimate.
SSHHHHH !! I'm sure the whole country wants a President picked by 2 Counties in California.Hillary enjoyed a 1,428,567 vote spread in LA county alone. This is exactly why we have an Electoral College.
http://vote.sos.ca.gov/returns/president/county/los-angeles/
It will only come into play when states having a total of 270 EC votes or more sign up. Other states can do as they please but it won't matter because enrolled states will determine the election.
Unfortunately, proportional delegates will never be adopted in a widespread manner. The states that avoid doing it will actually have increased power since you'd be able to grab more votes in one go in winner take all states.I guess the idea is to do a proportional thing inside each state then tally that up and have all the 270 EC votes in a block for who won that sub vote? Hadn't occurred to me that
Potentially quite a clever way to break the deadlock & inflict countrywide sanity.
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They already know the score, so they'll never support it regardless of the timing. They know they're a minority so they adopted a win by any means strategy long ago.
Paul Weyrich - Goo-Goo Syndrome (proper audio/video synchronization) - YouTube