Clinton "Election" Speech at Georgetown

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: Pens1566
He'd win again if he was constitutionally eligible.

I highly doubt that. He left before the war on terror really hit home.
If he ran now he would have to do a lot more to explain why he never really went after Osama despite all the attacks on us.

And go a head and throw out whatever he said on FOX and the 70+ cruise missiles.

However, bear in mind that we dropped 30,000+ bombs in Kosovo in two months in order to stop ethnic killing. But Clinton didn't feel that Osama was worth more than 70 cruise missiles.

In a campaign he can't wag his finger and try to shout down the moderator or make false charges about him being part of some "hit job"
Heck, if a candidate for office went on that type of tirade the news would be all over them for losing their cool, ala the Dean scream.

To be fair I don't think Bush could win again either, unless the Dems put up another Kerry like candidate.

You've just shown how little you actually know about American politics.

Well please enlighting me.

Explain to me how Gore LOST when he had everything in the world going for him?
After the Monica thing Clinton was damaged goods. He LIED straight out to the American people. And while we don't talk about that now, that was fresh on the mind of everyone in 2000. How else do you explain the fact that Gore ran away from him?

 

[Pens1566]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: Pens1566
He'd win again if he was constitutionally eligible.

I highly doubt that. He left before the war on terror really hit home.
If he ran now he would have to do a lot more to explain why he never really went after Osama despite all the attacks on us.

And go a head and throw out whatever he said on FOX and the 70+ cruise missiles.

However, bear in mind that we dropped 30,000+ bombs in Kosovo in two months in order to stop ethnic killing. But Clinton didn't feel that Osama was worth more than 70 cruise missiles.

In a campaign he can't wag his finger and try to shout down the moderator or make false charges about him being part of some "hit job"
Heck, if a candidate for office went on that type of tirade the news would be all over them for losing their cool, ala the Dean scream.

To be fair I don't think Bush could win again either, unless the Dems put up another Kerry like candidate.

EDIT: Don't forget his North Korea policy was a total failure as well. He put into a place an agreement that the North was most likely violating the day it was signed. He would have to answer for that mistake as well.

As a President he had a good economy, but his foreign policy was a mess, outside of Bosnia and Kosovo.

Are you insane? Of course he would win. A debate between him and King George would be the funniest thing since Spinal Tap.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: Pens1566
He'd win again if he was constitutionally eligible.

I highly doubt that. He left before the war on terror really hit home.
If he ran now he would have to do a lot more to explain why he never really went after Osama despite all the attacks on us.

And go a head and throw out whatever he said on FOX and the 70+ cruise missiles.

However, bear in mind that we dropped 30,000+ bombs in Kosovo in two months in order to stop ethnic killing. But Clinton didn't feel that Osama was worth more than 70 cruise missiles.

In a campaign he can't wag his finger and try to shout down the moderator or make false charges about him being part of some "hit job"
Heck, if a candidate for office went on that type of tirade the news would be all over them for losing their cool, ala the Dean scream.

To be fair I don't think Bush could win again either, unless the Dems put up another Kerry like candidate.

You've just shown how little you actually know about American politics.

Well please enlighting me.

Explain to me how Gore LOST when he had everything in the world going for him?
After the Monica thing Clinton was damaged goods. He LIED straight out to the American people. And while we don't talk about that now, that was fresh on the mind of everyone in 2000. How else do you explain the fact that Gore ran away from him?

Gore lost BECAUSE he treated Clinton as damaged goods. For all the sh!t that Clinton did and him lying straight to the camera, most Americans still forgave the guy and the Democratic base still worshipped him (Americans are more forgiving about lying about a BJ than they are about lying about WMDs to get us into a drawn out conflict.). Gore isn't even half the politician that Clinton was (and still is) and if Clinton had merely breathed on him he could have made Gore's *&^@ smell like roses.

And IIRC, Clinton's approval rating when he left the White House was quite admirable.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200511010014

In fact, polls show that Clinton's job approval rating as he left office was as high or higher than Reagan's when he left office. Clinton's final Gallup job approval rating was 66 percent, compared with 63 percent (subscription required) for Reagan. A January 17, 2004, ABC News online article cited an ABC News/Washington Post poll showing a 65 percent job approval rating for Clinton at the end of his presidency, compared with a 64 percent rating* for Reagan at the end of his. CBS News polls showed a 68 percent approval rating for both Clinton and Reagan at the end of their respective presidencies.

http://uspolitics.about.com/library/bl_historical_approval.htm

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: Stunt
Yeah, only an outside the box thinker (Dave) would subsidize oil prices AND invest in alternative energy...

Why so bitter? The conservative take over in canada not all you thought it would be?

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: NFS4
Gore lost BECAUSE he treated Clinton as damaged goods. For all the sh!t that Clinton did and him lying straight to the camera, most Americans still forgave the guy and the Democratic base still worshipped him (Americans are more forgiving about lying about a BJ than they are about lying about WMDs to get us into a drawn out conflict.). Gore isn't even half the politician that Clinton was (and still is) and if Clinton had merely breathed on him he could have made Gore's *&^@ smell like roses.

No, I've got to disagree. Gore lost because he is an idiot. And if you've paid any attention at all to him and his antics since that election, you see just how fortunate this country is that he never made it.

And IIRC, Clinton's approval rating when he left the White House was quite admirable.

Makes sense. The dot com bubble hadn't fully burst yet and we were "at peace" ... that is, threats were materializing and had been for 8 years.

I'll never understand the left's sainthood of Clinton and, honestly, I don't see too many people even try to defend Gore.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: Pabster
No, I've got to disagree. Gore lost because he is an idiot. And if you've paid any attention at all to him and his antics since that election, you see just how fortunate this country is that he never made it.

But that's not really the point. We're talking '99/'00 here. An alliance with Clinton through 2000 would have helped him considerably (IMHO). Sure, Gore back then was seen as a loveable loser/boring tree-hugger, but I don't think that the idiocy factor had settled in yet.

Four years of feeling sorry for yourself and blaming your loss on a conspiracy is what led to Gore's idiocy/lunacy But back before the election...not so much.

 

[joshw10]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: Pens1566
He'd win again if he was constitutionally eligible.

I highly doubt that. He left before the war on terror really hit home.
If he ran now he would have to do a lot more to explain why he never really went after Osama despite all the attacks on us.

And go a head and throw out whatever he said on FOX and the 70+ cruise missiles.

However, bear in mind that we dropped 30,000+ bombs in Kosovo in two months in order to stop ethnic killing. But Clinton didn't feel that Osama was worth more than 70 cruise missiles.

In a campaign he can't wag his finger and try to shout down the moderator or make false charges about him being part of some "hit job"
Heck, if a candidate for office went on that type of tirade the news would be all over them for losing their cool, ala the Dean scream.

To be fair I don't think Bush could win again either, unless the Dems put up another Kerry like candidate.

EDIT: Don't forget his North Korea policy was a total failure as well. He put into a place an agreement that the North was most likely violating the day it was signed. He would have to answer for that mistake as well.

As a President he had a good economy, but his foreign policy was a mess, outside of Bosnia and Kosovo.

Where is the link to the thread of right-winger outrage at Clinton The Terrorist for attacking those poor folk in Sudan and Afghanistan in the late 90s?

 

[Stunt]

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Stunt
Yeah, only an outside the box thinker (Dave) would subsidize oil prices AND invest in alternative energy...

Why so bitter? The conservative take over in canada not all you thought it would be?

I'm bitter towards just the one forum member...see the recent threads where I have tried to explain the facts of life.

On a happier note, I have been extremely happy with the Conservative Party in Canada. I wish Americans had access to such a party...it would win hands down (minus the social conservative nuts). :thumbsup:

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: NFS4
Gore lost BECAUSE he treated Clinton as damaged goods. For all the sh!t that Clinton did and him lying straight to the camera, most Americans still forgave the guy and the Democratic base still worshipped him (Americans are more forgiving about lying about a BJ than they are about lying about WMDs to get us into a drawn out conflict.). Gore isn't even half the politician that Clinton was (and still is) and if Clinton had merely breathed on him he could have made Gore's *&^@ smell like roses.

No, I've got to disagree. Gore lost because he is an idiot.

Well there's no doubt Bush is an idiot and he won.

And if you've paid any attention at all to him and his antics since that election, you see just how fortunate this country is that he never made it.

Well we all know how unfortunate we are that we have Bush as President

 

[compuwiz1]

Clinton could convince a snake that he had armpits, then sell him on the idea of roll-on deodorant.