Clinton is Suck.......

FettsBabe

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This is from Time Magazine. Clinton is suck. I'm glad he had to return the furniture.

Bill and Al, the Boys on the Bus--how long ago that seems
BY MARGARET CARLSON

You can almost hear Bill Clinton, when he found himself alone with his Vice President for the first time in nearly a year, saying as he bit his lip, "I've missed you, man." But that's not how the meeting went, according to the Washington Post's John Harris. Clinton, still chafing over being kept on the sidelines, rejected any responsibility for Gore's loss. Gore, whose body had returned to the West Wing but whose psyche was still counting chads in Palm Beach, tried to explain that keeping Clinton under wraps was a rational response to polls showing swing voters were still mad as hell over the Year of Monica. Clinton, who sees that period as his Defense of the Constitution, shot back that had Gore embraced him and the Administration's record, he would have won.

No one could watch the pair's chilly handshake on the Inaugural platform and not see instantly that the two had lost their Boys on the Bus glow. Still, it's amazing that, like two estranged lovers arguing over who left the cap off the toothpaste, they skipped over the substance and focused on old slights. How had the Veep, who had lunched privately with the President every week in earlier days, only now got around to getting "things off his chest"? It's equally amazing that Clinton was surprised when Gore went into their last meeting still "knotted up" over the Lewinsky affair, "the elephant in the living room" (as Gore adviser Carter Eskew put it) that closed so many minds to Gore.

As the grief counselors say, get over it. (Bill's and Al's aides, playing out the same melodrama in print and on cable, should too.) For now, at least, Gore's got a leg up for the nomination in 2004 (his argument: I beat Bush once). But Clinton has the grip on the Democrats, having installed his wife in the Senate and his close friend Terry McAuliffe as chair of the party, which might as well be called the Clinton National Committee.

In this ninth year of the Clinton Administration, Clinton continues to soil Gore's reputation. Last Thursday it was Gore's allies who bore the brunt of the criticism for Clinton's eleventh-hour pardon of financier Marc Rich at hearings chaired, just for old times' sake, by Representative Dan Burton, of Who Murdered Vince Foster? fame. Clinton, with his eyes wide open, had his reasons for pardoning Rich--like the near half a million Denise Rich gave to his library--but the hot lights were trained on Jack Quinn--closer to Gore than to Clinton--and former Deputy Attorney General Eric Holder, who was accused by the committee of passing on the Rich pardon in hopes of landing the top spot at Justice in a Gore Administration. As usual, the buck doesn't stop at Clinton.

It's partly by contrast to Clinton's ex-presidency that Bush's presidency looks so good. It's not honor and dignity that Bush has restored to the White House so much as order, maturity and the prospect that when he leaves we won't have to count the silver--or the sofas. There's Clinton, buying mansions, prospecting for multimillion-dollar multimedia deals, chomping on a cigar on a whites-only golf course in Florida after addressing a group of investment bankers for $100,000. At dinner in Greenwich Village with former Senator Bob Kerrey, a loud retelling of the lesbian joke that helped torpedo Kerrey's '92 campaign made the papers. Fun.

His new Manhattan office, with its sweeping views of Central Park, is a scandal of its own. After lowballing estimates for rent of the entire 56th floor (it's now about $800,000 per year), he presented himself, surprise, as a victim--this time of local real estate prices. He promised that his foundation would pick up $300,000, but any charity that profligate would itself be scandalous. Word is that the government is encouraging Clinton to move to a cheaper suite on a lower floor.

On the heels of reparations for his wife's bridal registry, first reported by the New York Times's Maureen Dowd, comes the news that some of the furniture the Clintons carted off belonged to the White House. The chief usher warned them not to take $28,000 worth of furniture. Last week Clinton became the first President in history to have to return tables and chairs to the White House.

Historians heatedly debate who is the best ex-President, but if Clinton keeps it up, there may soon be no argument over who is the worst. Al Gore, on the other hand, is a model ex-Vice President. Minutes after the Inauguration, he quietly repaired to a modest Tudor house in Arlington, Va. He began lecturing to journalism students at Columbia University (ironically, off limits to journalists), and plans to write a book about families. He's betrayed no bitterness, even when he presided over the Electoral College vote. But from his skyscraper, awash in his global celebrity and a small fortune, Clinton continues to cast a shadow on his old friend. Will it always be Gore's fate that when Clinton trips, Gore is the one who ends up in the body cast?
 
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Clinton is without a doubt the best president the U.S. has had in modern times. He did more good things for this country than the last 5 Republican presidents combined. Only fools and Republicans (often the same thing anyway) try to trash him.

I guess it bothers people like you that he will go down in history as such a great man, and the only thing that you can gripe about is that a bimbo went down on him. Hah! Simple minds are always amusing. Ignorant Republican parents raise ignorant Republican childen. It's a tragedy!

Unlike Clinton who served two highly succesful terms, Bush will be voted out after only one term just like his failure father was before him. Atleast his father actually won his single term victory, unlike Bush who...... well, we all know the rest.

 

tontod

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I think people need to stop giving him attention. He revels when he gets a lot of attention. I think Bush is right when he says its time to put this to rest. (btw, I'm not a Bush supporter)
 

Tiger

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Hey Fettsy,
I'd heard about that article on MSNBC and FOXnews.
I can't believe how many former Clinton backers are running away from the convict, taking shots as they go. It's almost a stampede. Have we ever had a president with as little class and personal sense of loyalty and honor? I don't think so.

As for Gore, I do feel sorry for him in a sense. He got bushwhacked with the whole Lewinsky mess, loyally stood by his boss knowing on a personal level it was wrong, and took the hits during the election without complaint. Is this the difference between having a draft dodger for president and not? I doubt very much that Clinton would do the same if the roles had been reversed. One thing can be said of Gore, he is an honorable man.

I think Gore knows he's got no shot at 2004, and I suspect Clinton worked fast and furious after the election to make sure he didn't. I think it's going to take a total and complete rejection of Clinton by the American people to get him totally out of our lives, and off the front pages and toob, kinda like what the Soviets did to Stalin after his death. Hopefully something will come out of this Pardon fiasco that will start the process.

 

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TheTrueEqualizer you really speak the truth. These republican cronies should just shut up. The replublican presidents we have had here in modern times all sucked. And let me add one more thing about this pardon. I wonder if these same republican clowns were outraged when George Bush Senior took office and pardoned damn near everyone in connection with the Iran Contra scandal. He even went to so far to pardon people before they were called who could have provided testimony that would have led to indictments of himself and Ronnie Reagan. George Senior took office as criminal and Reagan left as a criminal. That as well as leave the country in a complete mess.
 

tontod

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Also, I think there are more important things to worry about than the problems created by a former President.
 
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Exactly Equalizer! Clinton was a very good president, despite having a very bad congress for most of the time. I am not saying that Clinton is infallible, b/c no one is. BUT the mistakes he did make were no worse than the mistake of others, such as Gingrich. I think the republicans need to stop going after Clinton and get to work.
 
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<< TheTrueEqualizer you really speak the truth. These republican cronies should just shut up. The replublican presidents we have had here in modern times all sucked. And let me add one more thing about this pardon. I wonder if these same republican clowns were outraged when George Bush Senior took office and pardoned damn near everyone in connection with the Iran Contra scandal. He even went to so far to pardon people before they were called who could have provided testimony that would have led to indictments of himself and Ronnie Reagan. George Senior took office as criminal and Reagan left as a criminal. That as well as leave the country in a complete mess.>>

Exactly. They seem to have poor memories when it comes to their own people.

And comments like the ones from Tiger always amuse me. It's sad the way people like that will say anything out of sheer envy and being desperate. They are so mad that Clinton (and Democrats in general) did such amazing things for this country, they try to smash them now in the hopes that when Bush screws up (just like his father before him), he won't look as bad. Hah!
 
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<< Exactly Equalizer! Clinton was a very good president, despite having a very bad congress for most of the time. I am not saying that Clinton is infallible, b/c no one is. BUT the mistakes he did make were no worse than the mistake of others, such as Gingrich. I think the republicans need to stop going after Clinton and get to work. >>

Well said! I think they should start worrying about their own people before Junior does something really stupid!

 

DefRef

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You people are so deluded it's not worth even getting upset about it.

If you think Clinton was so great, why don't you just tell the Mad Hatter and March Hare about it at your tea parties and leave real people out of it, mmmkay?
 
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<< You people are so deluded it's not worth even getting upset about it.

If you think Clinton was so great, why don't you just tell the Mad Hatter and March Hare about it at your tea parties and leave real people out of it, mmmkay? >>


Exhibit B. Hah! A perfect example of a Bush supporter. Reminds me of Bush himself with nothing intelligent to say!

I think my work here is done.
 

Corn

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Ref, &quot;deluded&quot; is about as understated as you can get when describing people that think:



<< ......Clinton (and Democrats in general) did such amazing things for this country....blah blah blah..... >>



 

Corn

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ROTFLMF'nAO!!! I just checked out TheTrueEqualizer's profile and guess where it doesn't even live? So tell me TheTrueEqualizer, were you referring to Japan when you said Billybob and the demoncrats did &quot;amazing things for this country&quot;?

Do us a favor, don't move back........
 

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Lifer
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&quot;yawn&quot; How boring. This should just be a Rush Limbaugh, Jerry Falwell groupy discussion board. Republicans would be funny if they weren't so pathetic. So high and mighty. So much better than everyone else. &quot;yawn&quot; Oh my, I am just falling asleep talking about them. Well let me be careful cause they might get their guns out and try to shoot me. LOL What a joke. hehehehehehehehehehehehehe
 

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I think clinton is great, of course, I'm in exile, haven't paid taxes in 8 years, and owe 50 kazillion dollars to the government, but managed to give millions to the DNC through shell corporations. My wife is his best &quot;friend&quot;. You'll have to PARDON me, I have people to do...err... I mean see.
 
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And still they come. Faceless, Factless and Dumbfounded. The Republicans.

They can't dispute the good he did for the country so they try (in vain) to attack his character or personal life. They preach &quot;Character&quot; when in fact, they have none! They seem to forget the crimes and misdeeds of their own people while pointing the finger at others.

Have fun guys. I'm off to work now. I'm sure somebody will cover my back. Until then, talk amongst yourselves and try to come up with atleast one single intelligent thing to say.
 

AndrewR

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Hey, TheTrollEqualizer, we don't need any more spew around here so please take your deluded platitudes to the Democratic Anonymous group that meets weekly at the Clinton library site. I think your delusion is summed up with one sentence:

<< Clinton is without a doubt the best president the U.S. has had in modern times. >>


I would really like to see the criteria for that choice! LMAO!! The only thing that Clinton proved is how stupid some of the electorate is.
 

ChrisIsBored

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Wow Clinton takes some furniture while fiends like Jessie Jackson give 1/2 Million houses away to their baby's momma

Think about it.. the whole thing is just another &quot;the public is so stupid lets make them think it's a big thing&quot; news headline..
 
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