Clinton: Most Truthful Candidate with Enthusiastic Supporters

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cubby1223

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Oh you must be talking about her stating:


Oh I do believe her when she says she will attack Iran if she becomes president. It is one of the reasons that it is imperative to me that she not become president.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/hillary-clinton-if-im-president-we-will-attack-iran/5460484


Being able to enact HORRIBLE policy is not a positive in my book, it apparently is in yours.

You need to do a little better research into the people presenting you your news. Nothing about that site gives any sense of unbiased credibility. For fuck's sake, one of the top articles is:
Skull Fossil Suggests GOP Republicans Diverged From Modern Humans Earlier Than Thought
 

flexy

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I saw some video on some major news site a day or so ago, Hillary Clinton at a rally/speech and in the background all those kids holding signs "Fighting for us".

Never ever struck me anything as so FAKE. A total charade.
 

mysticjbyrd

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You need to do a little better research into the people presenting you your news. Nothing about that site gives any sense of unbiased credibility. For fuck's sake, one of the top articles is:

It took me all of five seconds to copy/paste this quote into google, and find numerous sources. It's not as bad as it sounds, but it's still kind of bad. She certainly lives up to the title of warhawk.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O894bXmqqGU


On a side note, I like the title of that article. It's quite clever, especially for right wing circles.
 
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Jhhnn

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It took me all of five seconds to copy/paste this quote into google, and find numerous sources. It's not as bad as it sounds, but it's still kind of bad. She certainly lives up to the title of warhawk.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O894bXmqqGU


On a side note, I like the title of that article. It's quite clever, especially for right wing circles.

So, uhh, do you disagree with what she said? How about the way she said it? Or should we not step in on such a horrendous theoretical scenario to protect our Israeli friends?
 

cubby1223

Lifer
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It took me all of five seconds to copy/paste this quote into google, and find numerous sources. It's not as bad as it sounds, but it's still kind of bad. She certainly lives up to the title of warhawk.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O894bXmqqGU


On a side note, I like the title of that article. It's quite clever, especially for right wing circles.

Does your pea-sized brain not comprehend the difference between:

"If I am president, I will attack Iran."
*and*
"If Iran attacks Isreal, If I am president, I will attack Iran."

?


Did you know that if Iran attacks Turkey, we have a treaty that automatically enters the U.S. into war and we will attack Iran in retaliation? Same thing. Just you seem to not be able to understand context. I find this trait all too common with Bernie Bros.

Israel is an ally. If Israel is attacked, we retaliate. Only thing "bad" about it is it came from someone who your candidate of love is running against. Ask your beloved Bernie what he would do as president if our allies are attacked militarily by other nations?
 
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fskimospy

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It took me all of five seconds to copy/paste this quote into google, and find numerous sources. It's not as bad as it sounds, but it's still kind of bad. She certainly lives up to the title of warhawk.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O894bXmqqGU


On a side note, I like the title of that article. It's quite clever, especially for right wing circles.

Do you really think that Bernie Sanders would not engage in military operations against Iran if it were to full on attack Israel? His stance is nearly identical to Hillary's. Does that make him a warhawk?
 

bshole

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And here is why we need Sanders and not a stooge for the bankers. The whole corrupt system has been exposed. This is the group that Clinton travels within. It is the group she will fight to the death to protect. She is an unabashed corporate elitist.

It’s hard to know where to start in tallying up the explosive revelations in the Panama Papers, an analysis of leaked documents from global law firm Mossack Fonseca revealed by the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists (ICIJ). Yes, we’ve known for a while now that the shadow financial system was growing. But it’s another thing to take in 11.5 million documents showing the way in which Mossack Fonseca was working with big name financial groups like UBS, HSBC, Société Générale, and many others to help elites from the Communist Party leadership of China, to soccer star Lionel Messi, to global financiers hide cash in offshore havens around the world.

It’s just the tip of a much bigger iceberg. “The size of the leak is unprecedented, but the tricks Mossack Fonseca has allegedly used for its clients are neither new nor surprising. Anonymous shell companies and the failure of governments to require lawyers, corporate service companies, or banks to collect beneficial ownership information on clients leave the door wide open for dirty money to flow around the globe virtually unhindered,” says Heather Lowe, the Director of Government Affairs for Global Financial Integrity, a Washington DC-based consultancy.

To me, this is one of the key issues at work in the U.S. presidential election. Voters know at a gut level that our system of global capitalism is working mainly for the 1 %, not the 99 %. That’s a large part of why both Sanders and Trump have done well, because they tap into that truth, albeit in different ways. The Panama Papers illuminate a key aspect of why the system isn’t working–because globalization has allowed the capital and assets of the 1 % (be they individuals or corporations) to travel freely, while those of the 99 % cannot. Globalization is supposed to be about the free movement of people, goods, and capital. But in fact, the system is set up to enable that mobility mainly for the rich (or for large corporations). The result is global tax evasion, the offshoring of labor, and an elite that flies 35,000 feet over the problems of nation states and the tax payers within them.

http://time.com/4280864/panama-papers-capitalism/
 

Jhhnn

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And here is why we need Sanders and not a stooge for the bankers. The whole corrupt system has been exposed. This is the group that Clinton travels within. It is the group she will fight to the death to protect. She is an unabashed corporate elitist.



http://time.com/4280864/panama-papers-capitalism/

Can't resist the opportunity to tear down Hillary, huh?

You do Bernie no favors in that. It can easily be put in positive terms, like this-

"And here is why we need Sanders- he's spoken out many times about corruption at the top. He won't cave to the rich & powerful banking interests & will fight for honesty & fair dealing at all levels."

Or just go with the Bernie Bros' version of Benghazi.
 

mysticjbyrd

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Can't resist the opportunity to tear down Hillary, huh?

You do Bernie no favors in that. It can easily be put in positive terms, like this-

"And here is why we need Sanders- he's spoken out many times about corruption at the top. He won't cave to the rich & powerful banking interests & will fight for honesty & fair dealing at all levels."

Or just go with the Bernie Bros' version of Benghazi.

These are simple facts, not personal attacks.
 

swamplizard

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Greetings,

Bernie can win. If he doesn't it's not because Hillary played dirty, it's either because she got more votes than Bernie or the super-delegates went with her in favor of the Democratic establishment, although highly unlikely.

best regards,
swampy
 

fskimospy

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Greetings,

Bernie can win. If he doesn't it's not because Hillary played dirty, it's either because she got more votes than Bernie or the super-delegates went with her in favor of the Democratic establishment, although highly unlikely.

best regards,
swampy

Thank you for being a sane Bernie supporter. So far Hillary has won more votes and more pledged delegates. She is extremely likely to win the nomination. If that didn't happen though I would support Sanders over any Republican candidate in a second.

I feel that a lot of Sanders supporters have forgotten that Hillary and Bernie have a lot more in common than what they disagree on. Hillary supporters did the same thing in 2008. (PUMAS)
 

swamplizard

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Thank you for being a sane Bernie supporter. So far Hillary has won more votes and more pledged delegates. She is extremely likely to win the nomination. If that didn't happen though I would support Sanders over any Republican candidate in a second.

I feel that a lot of Sanders supporters have forgotten that Hillary and Bernie have a lot more in common than what they disagree on. Hillary supporters did the same thing in 2008. (PUMAS)

Greetings,

We Democrats must unite behind whoever wins the nomination and do everything possible to ensure a Democratic Congress.

best regards
swampy
 

mysticjbyrd

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Do you really think that Bernie Sanders would not engage in military operations against Iran if it were to full on attack Israel? His stance is nearly identical to Hillary's. Does that make him a warhawk?

Well, it won't happen so to threaten them seems crude, and unwise.
 

Bowfinger

Lifer
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Greetings,

We Democrats must unite behind whoever wins the nomination and do everything possible to ensure a Democratic Congress.

best regards
swampy
What about those who aren't Democrats? Given the Island of Misfit Candidates assembled by the GOP, I think We Americans must unite behind whoever wins the Democratic nomination. I'd prefer that be Sanders, but Clinton works too.
 

mysticjbyrd

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Thank you for being a sane Bernie supporter. So far Hillary has won more votes and more pledged delegates. She is extremely likely to win the nomination. If that didn't happen though I would support Sanders over any Republican candidate in a second.

I feel that a lot of Sanders supporters have forgotten that Hillary and Bernie have a lot more in common than what they disagree on. Hillary supporters did the same thing in 2008. (PUMAS)

Bernie and Hillary have absolutely nothing in common. They are extreme polar opposites.

Bernie doesn't want the power, and only cares about the issues. Hillary only cares about the power, and doesn't want to concern herself with the issues.
 

fskimospy

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Bernie and Hillary have absolutely nothing in common. They are extreme polar opposites.

Bernie doesn't want the power, and only cares about the issues. Hillary only cares about the power, and doesn't want to concern herself with the issues.

You keep telling yourself that.
 

marincounty

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She is a corrupt shill for corporate interests. It is enough to know that Christopher Hitchens despised her. He has newer quotes about how she has taken donations from corrupt foreign interests and the oligarchical financial institutions. I will look them up if I think of it.




http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...2008/01/the_case_against_hillary_clinton.html

You bring up the hateful foreigner , Christopher Hitchens, as if he had any credibility.
This is the guy that hated Mother Teresa. Him hating Hillary is a compliment to Hillary.
That guy was a loon.
Oh my god, foreign donations. Maybe if you had a large non-profit that benefits millions of people you might accept foreign donations?
 

Jhhnn

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What about those who aren't Democrats? Given the Island of Misfit Candidates assembled by the GOP, I think We Americans must unite behind whoever wins the Democratic nomination. I'd prefer that be Sanders, but Clinton works too.

Of course, but first things first. Hell- it's what she preaches on the campaign trail- harmony, respect, finding common purpose, shaping the future in a positive direction.
 

mysticjbyrd

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Of course, but first things first. Hell- it's what she preaches on the campaign trail- harmony, respect, finding common purpose, shaping the future in a positive direction.

What a load of bullshit... ROFL And you fools line up to buy it!
 
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