Which reflects the reality that Trump might win if enough people vote third party?
If that's not your desired outcome then you probably shouldn't promote it.
What is a better beat down, Trump loses to Hillary by a few more points, or Trump loses to the combined total of the third party candidates?
Which reflects the reality that Trump might win if enough people vote third party?
If that's not your desired outcome then you probably shouldn't promote it.
Which reflects the reality that Trump might win if enough people vote third party?
If that's not your desired outcome then you probably shouldn't promote it.
There appears to be this sense of entitlement, especially on the left. As if whatever piece of garbage they put out, people should just vote for it ...because look....the ugly right wing! Obama coming out and saying to black people that he would be "personally insulted" if blacks didn't come out and voted in large numbers for Hillary. That is some sense of entitlement. It was condemned by some old time black leaders as well.
Gotta love all the cozying up to the "She's just as Bad!" trope so popular among delusionists. It's absurdist bullshit.
The Trump candidacy is a national disgrace as are his followers. The Republican party is also a disgrace for having encouraged & nurtured all the ugliness, the bitterness, the bigotry & the astoundingly shitty attitudes & gross misperceptions of their base for decades. Now it boiled over on them under the encouragement of Trump. He tells them what they really want to hear & turns the dial up to 11.
WTF did they think would happen? Did they not examine the possible unintended consequences of fanning hate & discontent? Or did they not care?
WTF did they think would happen in the wake of the top down class warfare victories they scored over and over?
If enough people vote third party the third party might win. The danger of accidentally electing Trump only exists because some people buy into the false dichotomy fallacy promoted by the two major parties.
And so why did the Left have to give us Clinton (a seriously flawed candidate who actually might lose to the Orange Lunatic) when they could've nominated Sanders, an actual decent human being, as far as I can tell? It's like the GOP decided to punt this election by picking the worst possible candidate, and Dems have tried to hand it right back by nominating their worst possible candidate, Clinton. Even O'Malley would've been a better choice! But of course with the Left, identity politics HAS to prevail! Anyone who doesn't support the (seriously flawed) woman is sexist, so let's all vote for her. Sanders would be wiping the floor with Trump.
But I legitimately do hate Nickelback.
And so why did the Left have to give us Clinton (a seriously flawed candidate who actually might lose to the Orange Lunatic) when they could've nominated Sanders, an actual decent human being, as far as I can tell? It's like the GOP decided to punt this election by picking the worst possible candidate, and Dems have tried to hand it right back by nominating their worst possible candidate, Clinton. Even O'Malley would've been a better choice! But of course with the Left, identity politics HAS to prevail! Anyone who doesn't support the (seriously flawed) woman is sexist, so let's all vote for her. Sanders would be wiping the floor with Trump.
Kinda dumb if you ask me. Only Trump or Clinton is going to be president. Might as well pick the one closer to representing your interests instead of throwing it away on a third party (plus, Johnson and Stein are both loons for different reasons).
RoboClinton andSomeone who has decided to vote for Stein or whoever doesn't "owe themselves" sh!t to compare Trump and Clinton, that they're voting someone other than Trump/Clinton is ALREADY evidence they have an open mind. That's simply someone who is a partisan for one of them attempting to perpetuate the "worse of two evils" narrative. How about treating your fellow voters with the respect they deserve to make up their own damn minds. Stein and Johnson ARE better candidates than Clinton or Trump and deserve votes.
Highly unlikely at this point, but if Trump were to win, it will be interesting to see where Democrats lay the blame.More bullshit. You already referred to her opponent as a certified idiot & witnessed the awful truth of that Monday night.
But you persist in tearing down Clinton as if she's not the only hope of keeping that idiot out of the Oval Office.
Is that supposed to show us how smart you are, or what?
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Highly unlikely at this point, but if Trump were to win, it will be interesting to see where Democrats lay the blame.
For people who continually decry false equivalence you sure love creating them. And do you really think "Hillary is better than Hitler" is going to change the mind of someone saying they would never vote for her?
On ourselves for failure to bring people to reason, for failure to counter the divisive raving idiocy spewed from the right wing noise machine for decades.
Your blinders are amazing - they truly must be industrial-grade. The Dems ignore the flyover country for years, and then wonder why they're angry and defecting to the GOP.
You've got President Obama, Michelle Obama, Bill Clinton, Joe Biden, Bernie Sanders and an infinite cast of surrogates stumping for Hillary. Trump is shooting from the hip and grossly incompetent. How is this a close election? At some point you need to accept that maybe you bet on the wrong horse.On ourselves for failure to bring people to reason, for failure to counter the divisive raving idiocy spewed from the right wing noise machine for decades.
In this election I have more respect for the Trump supporters than those who vote 3rd party. At least the majority of Trump supporters just don't know any better.
Two nieces supported Bernie. One nephew supported Kasich. All three of them are hundred percent that they will not be voting for either Hillary or Trump - two being in closely contested swing states. That I think is more common among the young people - who can see the charade more clearly. I think a lot of them will either be voting 3rd party or not voting at all.
And so why did the Left have to give us Clinton (a seriously flawed candidate who actually might lose to the Orange Lunatic) when they could've nominated Sanders, an actual decent human being, as far as I can tell? It's like the GOP decided to punt this election by picking the worst possible candidate, and Dems have tried to hand it right back by nominating their worst possible candidate, Clinton. Even O'Malley would've been a better choice! But of course with the Left, identity politics HAS to prevail! Anyone who doesn't support the (seriously flawed) woman is sexist, so let's all vote for her. Sanders would be wiping the floor with Trump.
The only legitimate appeal of trump, in my opinion, is if you believe that the system is irreparably broken. If you believe that, Trump might just be the man to burn the system down.
Honestly its throwing away your vote. Sadly it seems to most seriously hurt Hillary (honestly I don't think there is even any longer rational discussion to be had with his supporters). Johnson and Stein need to negotiate for policy inclusions, tweaks to the democratic platform, endorse hillary, and then drop out imo. Their policy platforms are not that far apart in honesty.If pigs had wings, they'd fly. The chances of enough people voting for either third party candidate to win are precisely zero this election & we both know it.
Keeping that in mind, it's obvious that you're concern trolling to advance Trump's chances whether you'll admit it or not.
I think the polls, flawed as they are, make us feel anxious, and the amount of media time trump gets is incredible which makes you wonder if you underestimate his popularity.This argument would have more substance if the opponent of Trump was someone half decent at least. People vote FOR someone, not against someone. That is fundamental to any human choice for that matter. It is precisely why Hillary is struggling among the young and even what are called minorities. But in reality, she will become President (in reality, the race isn't close...it is almost inconceivable for Trump to get to 270). So I don't even know what is causing this angst among her supporters. Big ado about nothing.
You've got President Obama, Michelle Obama, Bill Clinton, Joe Biden, Bernie Sanders and an infinite cast of surrogates stumping for Hillary. Trump is shooting from the hip and grossly incompetent. How is this a close election? At some point you need to accept that maybe you bet on the wrong horse.
Some of those idiots supported Bill Clinton and/or Obama. Are the millenials not flocking to Hillary idiots? Are the disgruntled blue collar union workers who feel abandoned idiots?Yeah or the left realizes that a good portion of this country are idiots and nothing can be done to save them from themselves.