So in other words without seeing either one is perfectly fine/nothing to see there while the other one is covered in dirt and slime? And we know this because of...reasons?
Just making sure that I'm following along right.
Ok, I will buy your argument. Who are the people / organizations that are giving Hillary the millions so that she can get to the White House? Are they doing it for the greater good?
Your link makes the hypocrisy all the more obvious.
"That’s why I’m so passionate about this issue, and I will fight hard to end the stranglehold that the wealthy and special interests have on so much of our government."
That is why I took $152 million from super PACs - to end the influence of money in politics!! I mean, what do I even say if you guys are so deluded?
The right uses race and related issues to get people to vote against themselves. The Dem party plays the same game, just using different weapons. It is all about getting the people to get to screw themselves.
These childish lines don't serve any purpose. And I'm not going to respond in kind.You haven't proven anything except your own incompetence.
These childish lines don't serve any purpose. And I'm not going to respond in kind.
If people can't see that Hillary and her likes are the very embodiment of the corrupt and self serving poltical system, then well...I don't know what to say.
Gawd. It's not like Trump wouldn't take the money. It's just that nobody is giving him any.
I said that dragging in Hillary's speeches as a counter to Trump's tax returns is very weak sauce indeed. I said that the Clintons have no tax issues. I said that Trump's whole life is a scandal & his attitude about it completely deplorable. Everything we learn about the guy reinforces that & his tax returns would likely do even more.
He's depraved, just the guy we want to be the leader of the free world.
She lost by a little, against Obama who was much better at exciting the masses and getting people to turn out.
You realize the point of wanting to see his tax returns right? To see if he's beholden to someone financially? Wouldn't seeing why Hillary was paid for a "speech at a private event" by Goldman Sachs to Hillary for what amounts to many times your average family's annual income for a 20 minute speech give us some of those insights? We know she's beholden to them, you don't get that kind of money for that little work and not scratch some backs in return, I think if we are going to elect her president we at least deserve to know what she said. If Trump has something similar let's see them too.
I think Trump should release his tax returns and I'm not defending his position not to, I just think your hypocrites for railing over him releasing his tax returns and not over Hillary releasing her speech transcripts (and that's completely ignoring the 800lb gorilla of her email and Clinton Foundation problems). Both of these candidates are terrible, expose everything on them - not just on the one who you're against. It's a disservice to the American public to sweep any of their scandals under the rug and say there's nothing to see here. Keep that in mind next time you get those pitchforks out.
Donald Trump - $1.5M
Topping the list by a longshot is billionaire birther and infamous reality-TV host Donald Trump. “The Donald earned a staggering $1.5 million per speech at The Learning Annex’s ‘real estate wealth expos’ in 2006 and 2007,” according to Forbes. “Trump appeared at 17 seminars and collected this fee for each one.”
Hillary Clinton - $200K
Commanding around $200,000, Clinton recently came under fire for her $250,000 speaking fee at an upcoming UNLV fundraiser. Hilary told ABC’s Diane Sawyer in June that her family was “dead broke” upon leaving White House.
What competence has she shown? Supporting a disastrous war in Iraq, the price of which is still being paid by millions of innocent souls. Not the Clinton clan of course, raking it in with their "speeches", the 650 K starting job for Chelsea, Bill continuing his philandering, and so on.
Or Libya an example of her competence?
Or being an utterly unprincipled pawn for the powers that be?
These childish lines don't serve any purpose. And I'm not going to respond in kind.
If people can't see that Hillary and her likes are the very embodiment of the corrupt and self serving poltical system, then well...I don't know what to say.
You realize the point of wanting to see his tax returns right? To see if he's beholden to someone financially? Wouldn't seeing why Hillary was paid for a "speech at a private event" by Goldman Sachs to Hillary for what amounts to many times your average family's annual income for a 20 minute speech give us some of those insights? We know she's beholden to them, you don't get that kind of money for that little work and not scratch some backs in return, I think if we are going to elect her president we at least deserve to know what she said. If Trump has something similar let's see them too.
I think Trump should release his tax returns and I'm not defending his position not to, I just think your hypocrites for railing over him releasing his tax returns and not over Hillary releasing her speech transcripts (and that's completely ignoring the 800lb gorilla of her email and Clinton Foundation problems). Both of these candidates are terrible, expose everything on them - not just on the one who you're against. It's a disservice to the American public to sweep any of their scandals under the rug and say there's nothing to see here. Keep that in mind next time you get those pitchforks out.
The point of seeing his tax returns is to see what kind of a citizen & a patriot Donald Trump really is. It's one way to quantify what he's given back to a country that's given him so much.
He defies tradition & the norms of presidential candidate behavior. It defies common sense & human dignity for anybody to excuse that while demanding Hillary's speech transcripts. You merely intimate that there could be some highly unlikely wrongdoing in what she said w/o the slightest shred of proof. It's all speculation & innuendo repeated ad nauseum.
What people like Goldman Sachs want from a Clinton speech are indications of what she wants to do that would affect them should she become president. If she tells them that she wants to build infrastructure & alternative energy or any number of things it means they'll put their analysts to work figuring out how they might profit. If she tells them how she intends to strengthen financial regulations, inhibit corporate inversions or eliminate tax avoidance opportunities for some of their clients that's important as well. It gives them a chance to chat & to size her up in person, and she them. The chances that she said anything different than what she's said on the campaign trail are practically nothing but her detractors are desperate for anything they can paint in a bad light.
You realize the point of wanting to see his tax returns right? To see if he's beholden to someone financially? Wouldn't seeing why Hillary was paid for a "speech at a private event" by Goldman Sachs to Hillary for what amounts to many times your average family's annual income for a 20 minute speech give us some of those insights? We know she's beholden to them, you don't get that kind of money for that little work and not scratch some backs in return, I think if we are going to elect her president we at least deserve to know what she said. If Trump has something similar let's see them too.
I think Trump should release his tax returns and I'm not defending his position not to, I just think your hypocrites for railing over him releasing his tax returns and not over Hillary releasing her speech transcripts (and that's completely ignoring the 800lb gorilla of her email and Clinton Foundation problems). Both of these candidates are terrible, expose everything on them - not just on the one who you're against. It's a disservice to the American public to sweep any of their scandals under the rug and say there's nothing to see here. Keep that in mind next time you get those pitchforks out.
The point of seeing his tax returns is to see what kind of a citizen & a patriot Donald Trump really is. It's one way to quantify what he's given back to a country that's given him so much.
Here is actually the real reason we need to see his tax returns--and most of it based on what we already know about the tax returns he has already released:
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/seeing-trumps-tax-returns-really-matters/
trigger warning: accounts of a history of impropriety and under-oath testimony regarding fraud. This may upset Trump fluffers, but it is probably important to understand that Trump has been under constant audit year after year because of his past history with tax fraud. (not because "all us billionaires are under audit!" as he he erroneously claimed.)
If these kind of details don't concern Trump supporters regarding their support for this man, then not even whatever god you guys believe in can help this country if you continue to support this brazen criminal.
I saw that last night and agree with it. He needs to release them. She needs to release her speech transcripts and the 30k+ emails as well.
weird, because...Lol well that one's new to me.
I saw that last night and agree with it. He needs to release them. She needs to release her speech transcripts and the 30k+ emails as well.
What about Trump's speeches? edit: are you saying Trump's emails should be private, but the speeches should be allowed or are you giving him a pass on that as well? Trump's emails could show political bribes he made, shouldn't that be a concern to voters?Yeah I'm not sure of the reason but it wouldn't surprise me if it was more than just not paying taxes, like I said hold his feet to the fire over them. I don't remember the patriotic bit from the clip but I put Newshour on at night and half listen while I'm doing other things so may have missed it, but the guy that was being interviewed made some good points.
It's sad that most of you only want to hold candidate accountable for anything though. Donald Trump should be grilled on these, and the not releasing them (same with the speech transcripts and emails) only confirms to all of us that yes there is something they are hiding. If there wasn't they'd just release, be done with it, and have it stop harming their campaigns.
And lastly asking for Trumps emails is disingenuous (if you want them I'm all for openness and transparency, but it would be a gross invasion of privacy rights and not the norm) since he wasn't using that account while acting as a government official much less Secretary of State. His emails aren't owed to us under the Freedom of Information Act, hers are. Like I said above with Trump not releasing his tax returns, the very act of not doing it and putting the issue to bed is enough for those with enough sense to see that something is being hidden. The question with the emails and Hillary though is what is it?
What about Trump's speeches?
Without letting Hillary off the hook one bit, John Oliver takes an in-depth look at this false equivalency. That pasty, ferret-faced Brit is doing some of the most focused and brilliantly accessible investigatory journalism on TV.
Anyone who (still) thinks "both candidates are equally bad, I'ma vote for Jill Stein" or some such owes it to themselves and to the Republic to put aside 21 minutes from their busy and important lives and JUST LISTEN, with an open mind.
Hillary Clinton is a flawed human being with a penchant for secrecy, unconscionably slow to own up to her mistakes, but Donald Trump is an deeply ignorant and avaricious narcissist with no moral compass, a clear and present danger to our country should we collectively let our anger with the "establishment" lead us from the frying pan into that hideously orange dumpster fire by not doing everything each and every one of us can to prevent him from becoming our President.
It's cute how John "It's Current Year!" Oliver still thinks he's relevant
It's cute how John "It's Current Year!" Oliver still thinks he's relevant
It's the classic tactic of trying to claim someone doesn't matter or is irrelevant because you don't like their message but have absolutely no grounds to actually rebut the argument.Pretty sure he is more than relevant right now. He's on the most talked-about and highest acclaimed TV news/entertainment shows there is.