clockwise or CCW?

[eits]

when i first saw it, it was clockwise. i didn't know how the hell anyone could see it going counter-clockwise.

i tried hard to see her spin counter-clockwise... in order to, i had to look off the screen and squint... almost like a magic eye.

after i saw her spinning counter-clockwise, i hard just as hard a time trying to see her spin clockwise again as i did when i was trying to see her spin counter-clockwise. i got it, though.

reading through the clockwise/right brain personality description, i'm obviously heavily right brain with a couple left brain traits.

good to know the way my brain interprets the world hasn't changed since high school...


edit: if i close the window and reopen it after a couple minutes, i see her spinning clockwise. if i force myself to see her spin counter-clockwise, it's hard for me to see her spin clockwise again... if i close the window and a minute later open the image back up, i see her spinning counter-clockwise. but if i do the same thing and re-open it after a few minutes, she's obviously spinning clockwise to me.

 

[RapidSnail]

So how does the direction of spin determine which side of the brain you use more?

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: RapidSnail
So how does the direction of spin determine which side of the brain you use more?

haha apparently, you use neither.

 

[destrekor]

Originally posted by: RapidSnail
So how does the direction of spin determine which side of the brain you use more?

mmhmm, indeed. instead of debating what direction she is spinning, howabout we debate why the hell what direction we see her spin could possibly correlate to which hemisphere is more dominant in our personality?

 

[BrownTown]

shadow is clearly going CCW, lady was going clockwise util i starred at the shadow for a minute then she went CCW.

EDIT: yeah i can get here going both ways now easily, look at her shadow and she starts going CCW look at her body and she goes clockwise.

 

[Triumph]

Originally posted by: destrekor

Originally posted by: RapidSnail
So how does the direction of spin determine which side of the brain you use more?

mmhmm, indeed. instead of debating what direction she is spinning, howabout we debate why the hell what direction we see her spin could possibly correlate to which hemisphere is more dominant in our personality?

Because it doesn't, or at least it isn't a very good indicator. It says that because I see her spin CW, I'm right brained, when I am emphatically not. I'm not even borderline middle brained, in every other quantifiable test that I've taken. More like someone decided to arbitrarily assign one rotation of spin to one side of the brain and the other direction to the other side. This test has as much psychological merit as an email forward that purports to do the same thing.

The linked article says, "Most of us would see the dancer turning anti-clockwise..." Now why would that be, considering that the distribution of left brain/right brain people is very likely very normal, following a standard bell curve?

 

[RU482]

"lefty Loosey, righty tighty"

does this mean that left handed girls are easy?

 

[lyssword]

Originally posted by: redly1
"lefty Loosey, righty tighty"

does this mean that left handed girls are easy?

You're onto something

 

[Judgement]

Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer
She changes legs and the dirction shes spinning, watch closely for a while

I noticed that also. When I first started watching it was CCW and then soon after the spin was CW. After watching for long enough I noticed that the raised leg toggles from being the right/left leg every once in awhile and that was when my perception of CW or CCW also changed.

Edit: anyone else want to confirm this, I'm starting to think I might have been wrong.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: eits
when i first saw it, it was clockwise. i didn't know how the hell anyone could see it going counter-clockwise.

i tried hard to see her spin counter-clockwise... in order to, i had to look off the screen and squint... almost like a magic eye.

after i saw her spinning counter-clockwise, i hard just as hard a time trying to see her spin clockwise again as i did when i was trying to see her spin counter-clockwise. i got it, though.

reading through the clockwise/right brain personality description, i'm obviously heavily right brain with a couple left brain traits.

good to know the way my brain interprets the world hasn't changed since high school...


edit: if i close the window and reopen it after a couple minutes, i see her spinning clockwise. if i force myself to see her spin counter-clockwise, it's hard for me to see her spin clockwise again... if i close the window and a minute later open the image back up, i see her spinning counter-clockwise. but if i do the same thing and re-open it after a few minutes, she's obviously spinning clockwise to me.

LEFT BRAIN FUNCTIONS
uses logic
detail oriented
facts rule
words and language
present and past
math and science
can comprehend
knowing
acknowledges
order/pattern perception
knows object name
reality based
forms strategies
practical
safe

RIGHT BRAIN FUNCTIONS
uses feeling
"big picture" oriented
imagination rules
symbols and images
present and future
philosophy & religion
can "get it" (i.e. meaning)
believes
appreciates
spatial perception
knows object function
fantasy based
presents possibilities
impetuous
risk taking

 

[manlymatt83]

I can make it see both

 

[Caecus Veritas]

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: Caecus Veritas

CW/CCW changes depending on whether you're looking down on the spinning whore from top or looking up at her from her feet. Just a matter of your POV and reference.

If you're looking down from top, she's spinning CCW (most people would perceive it this way, since that's the POV that you're always used to - i.e. looking down towards your feet). If you're looking up from bottom (for men, imagine spinnign your lady while having sex), she's spinning CW...

No, if you're looking down from the top she is spinning CW. Watch her raised foot against a horizontal reference point line.

the tricky part is your viewing point of reference. don't view from the side, but imagine it from directly above or from bottom of the figure. (the picture confuses people because the spinning lady and her leg is slightly angled)

imagine her standing on top of a round circle (clock), in the middle. if you're looking directly down at her, her raised feet is rotating CCW.

but if you're looking from the otherside (imagine a see-through floor, and you're looking up at her standing on top of the clock), her feet is moving CW.

hence, as i said (and as pointed out in the article), most people will perceive it to be CCW as that's the view that most people are accustomed to. the right brained people, it seems, tend to perceive the entire picture from a different perspective.

you can test this yourself. try spinning in the direction of the animation with one leg extended. you should be spinning to the left. and because we're looking "down" at our feet, our spin is CCW. but if someone were to be observing us from beneath us, the spin would be to the right (CW).

 

[Caecus Veritas]

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: destrekor

Originally posted by: RapidSnail
So how does the direction of spin determine which side of the brain you use more?

mmhmm, indeed. instead of debating what direction she is spinning, howabout we debate why the hell what direction we see her spin could possibly correlate to which hemisphere is more dominant in our personality?

Because it doesn't, or at least it isn't a very good indicator. It says that because I see her spin CW, I'm right brained, when I am emphatically not. I'm not even borderline middle brained, in every other quantifiable test that I've taken. More like someone decided to arbitrarily assign one rotation of spin to one side of the brain and the other direction to the other side. This test has as much psychological merit as an email forward that purports to do the same thing.

The linked article says, "Most of us would see the dancer turning anti-clockwise..." Now why would that be, considering that the distribution of left brain/right brain people is very likely very normal, following a standard bell curve?

i think the test is to do with spacial thinking and perception and it does make sense. a person will use their dominant side to analyze the pic. most people (left brain dominant - right handed) will use logic and reality to perceive the spin from the object's POV. However, i think right brain dominant people will see the entire picture in question (if you replace the woman with a stick it might be easier to picture), and determine that, based on the angle of the extended foot and the spin, it is moving CW in relation to the entire picture.... hard to explain but makes sense...

EDIT: oops typo on CW and CCW...

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: Caecus Veritas

CW/CCW changes depending on whether you're looking down on the spinning whore from top or looking up at her from her feet. Just a matter of your POV and reference.

If you're looking down from top, she's spinning CCW (most people would perceive it this way, since that's the POV that you're always used to - i.e. looking down towards your feet). If you're looking up from bottom (for men, imagine spinnign your lady while having sex), she's spinning CW...

No, if you're looking down from the top she is spinning CW. Watch her raised foot against a horizontal reference point line.

She spins both directions regardless of which viewpoint you choose.

Interesting bit, the leg that is straight down (the one on the axis of rotation) always appears to spin clockwise if you look at that foot. Even when I was seeing the image spin counterclockwise, the foot was still spinning clockwise.

ZV

No sir! If you look at her spinning foot only, it oscillates up and down as well as left to right. If you are looking "down" at her, it's impossible for her spinning foot to look *higher* when it is in *back* of her. And if she is spinning CCW and you are looking "down" at her, then why can you see the sole and instep of her lower foot?

I'm about ready to download an animated GIF program and pull out the component images.

You're over-thinking.

Don't look at her from the perspective of "above". Don't look at her from the perspecitve of "below".

If you look at her as though you are looking straight on, you will note that the rotation can be made to appear as though it changes.

I understand your perspective argument, but the simple fact is that if you look at the image long enough, the apparent direction of spin will reverse without you changing the perspective of "above" or "below".

ZV

 

[Caecus Veritas]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: Caecus Veritas

CW/CCW changes depending on whether you're looking down on the spinning whore from top or looking up at her from her feet. Just a matter of your POV and reference.

If you're looking down from top, she's spinning CCW (most people would perceive it this way, since that's the POV that you're always used to - i.e. looking down towards your feet). If you're looking up from bottom (for men, imagine spinnign your lady while having sex), she's spinning CW...

No, if you're looking down from the top she is spinning CW. Watch her raised foot against a horizontal reference point line.

She spins both directions regardless of which viewpoint you choose.

Interesting bit, the leg that is straight down (the one on the axis of rotation) always appears to spin clockwise if you look at that foot. Even when I was seeing the image spin counterclockwise, the foot was still spinning clockwise.

ZV

No sir! If you look at her spinning foot only, it oscillates up and down as well as left to right. If you are looking "down" at her, it's impossible for her spinning foot to look *higher* when it is in *back* of her. And if she is spinning CCW and you are looking "down" at her, then why can you see the sole and instep of her lower foot?

I'm about ready to download an animated GIF program and pull out the component images.

You're over-thinking.

Don't look at her from the perspective of "above". Don't look at her from the perspecitve of "below".

If you look at her as though you are looking straight on, you will note that the rotation can be made to appear as though it changes.

I understand your perspective argument, but the simple fact is that if you look at the image long enough, the apparent direction of spin will reverse without you changing the perspective of "above" or "below".

ZV

this is due to the fact that the woman is slanted (which is causing the "illusion effect" in the first place). by staring at it for a long time, you're inadvertently changing your POV, thereby causing the change in rotation. changing or imagining the perspective all the way to the top or bottom will eliminate the illusion effect and help you to determine why certain people see one rotation and others the other way.

and by the way, yes i do agree that the plane will take off

 

[Triumph]

Originally posted by: Caecus Veritas

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: Caecus Veritas

CW/CCW changes depending on whether you're looking down on the spinning whore from top or looking up at her from her feet. Just a matter of your POV and reference.

If you're looking down from top, she's spinning CCW (most people would perceive it this way, since that's the POV that you're always used to - i.e. looking down towards your feet). If you're looking up from bottom (for men, imagine spinnign your lady while having sex), she's spinning CW...

No, if you're looking down from the top she is spinning CW. Watch her raised foot against a horizontal reference point line.

the tricky part is your viewing point of reference. don't view from the side, but imagine it from directly above or from bottom of the figure. (the picture confuses people because the spinning lady and her leg is slightly angled)

imagine her standing on top of a round circle (clock), in the middle. if you're looking directly down at her, her raised feet is rotating CCW.

but if you're looking from the otherside (imagine a see-through floor, and you're looking up at her standing on top of the clock), her feet is moving CW.

No, listen, you have this idea that she *is* spinning CCW definitively. She isn't, its an optical illusion. I understand the difference between clockwise and counterclockwise, I'm trying to explain why the illusion works. If you imagine yourself as taller than her, looking down at her from an angle, then she is rotating CW. If you look UP at her from an angle, then she is rotating CCW. Again, follow the up and down motion of the outward spinning foot against a horizontal reference line.

hence, as i said (and as pointed out in the article), most people will perceive it to be CCW as that's the view that most people are accustomed to. the right brained people, it seems, tend to perceive the entire picture from a different perspective.

The article is bunk, there's no psychological citation. There's also no logical reason why "most" people would perceive her as rotating CCW, because "most" people aren't left brained.

 

[Triumph]

Originally posted by: Caecus Veritas

i think the test is to do with spacial thinking and perception and it does make sense. a person will use their dominant side to analyze the pic. most people (left brain dominant - right handed) will use logic and reality to perceive the spin from the object's POV. However, i think right brain dominant people will see the entire picture in question (if you replace the woman with a stick it might be easier to picture), and determine that, based on the angle of the extended foot and the spin, it is moving CW in relation to the entire picture.... hard to explain but makes sense...

EDIT: oops typo on CW and CCW...

Again, it has nothing to do with the object's point of view. Everyone here understands that the reference point for CW versus CCW is a clock on the floor at her feet. That is not the illusion. I'm not flipping the clock around, the reference point stays the same but she flips around.

 

[Caecus Veritas]

ummm... is she not turning to her left?

 

[Triumph]

Originally posted by: Caecus Veritas

ummm... is she not turning to her left?

No, she isn't! THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT!!!! She is rotating to her left to some people, to her right to others, while using the same coordinate system.

I thought everyone else in this thread understood that?

 

[Caecus Veritas]

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: Caecus Veritas

ummm... is she not turning to her left?

No, she isn't! THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT!!!! She is rotating to her left to some people, to her right to others, while using the same coordinate system.

I thought everyone else in this thread understood that?

gonna go back and stare at it some more...

EDIT: ok ok.. i got it!!! i guess i was analyzing the CW/CCW direction while ONLY looking at the CCW spin.... bleh! now i'm here sitting feeling stupid... and frustruated!

 

[Triumph]

 

[jjzelinski]

that's a rather attractive silhouette! If it were modeled after the average American physique i don't think I would've given this test nearly as much attention lol

That being said, I first saw it as counter clockwise. Rather mind bending seeing it change

 

[Oxaqata]

Edit

 

[Throckmorton]

Are we talking about CW/CCW when looking at the ground, or looking up??

 

[Praxis1452]

I've seen this one before. It's an optical illusion and they original link is bullshit. There is no right brain left brain stuff. I can make it switch at will. look at the shadow and pretend it's going the other way and it will.