Cloud computing

ImpulsE69

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I have zero faith in 'safe cloud computing' for business that is out of your direct control, unless you have data that is absolutely worthless to anyone.
 

Markbnj

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Yes it is completely safe because of OzoneLayer (from Adobe). So move everything to teh cloudz now kkthx.
 

ultimatebob

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We run our site on AWS. It's fairly stable, but kind of expensive. I'm not sure if we are really saving all that much compared to hosting it ourselves.
 

waggy

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it would be great. but we get a lot of storms here so i don't want that to mess up the clouds.
 

mmntech

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Cloud Computing is just a fancy way of saying "someone else's computer". When you upload anything, you're basically giving the server owner, government, and third parties free reign to comb through it. You just have to trust they won't. Which is pretty stupid IMO.

I use Google Drive to transfer small files between various computers. All non-sensitive info. Usually articles I'm writing. Would never put anything sensitive in there. Google "The Fappening" (warning! NSFW) to see why you have to be careful about what gets pushed to the cloud.
 

lxskllr

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Eben Moglen said:
I haven’t mentioned the word “cloud” because the word “cloud” doesn’t really mean anything very much. In other words, the disaster we are having is not the catastrophe of the cloud. The disaster we are having is the catastrophe of the way we misunderstood the Net under the assistance of the un-free software that helped us to understand it. What “cloud” means is that servers have ceased to be made of iron. “Cloud” means virtualization of servers has occurred.

So, out here in the dusty edges of the galaxy where we live in dis-empowered clienthood, nothing very much has changed. As you walk inward towards the center of the galaxy, it gets more fuzzy than it used to. We resolve now halo where we used to see actual stars. Servers with switches and buttons you can push and such. Instead, what has happened is that iron no longer represents a single server. Iron is merely a place where servers could be. So “cloud” means servers have gained freedom, freedom to move, freedom to dance, freedom to combine and separate and re-aggregate and do all kinds of tricks. Servers have gained freedom. Clients have gained nothing. Welcome to the cloud.

https://www.softwarefreedom.org/events/2010/isoc-ny/FreedomInTheCloud-transcript.html
 

unokitty

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Hi, guys! Anybody here heard about Cloud computing solutions? It is a remote servers hosted on the internet to store, manage and process data. Is it safe? we are planning to use it in our business. Please let me know, Thank you!
NIST Definition of Cloud Computing
Cloud computing is a model for enabling ubiquitous, convenient, on-demand network access to a shared pool of configurable computing resources (e.g., networks, servers, storage, applications, and services) that can be rapidly provisioned and released with minimal management effort or service provider interaction. This cloud model is composed of five essential characteristics, three service models, and four deployment models.

Essential Characteristics:

  1. On-demand self-service.
  2. Broad network access.
  3. Resource pooling.
  4. Rapid elasticity.
  5. Measured service.

Service Models:

  1. Software as a Service (SaaS).
  2. Platform as a Service (PaaS).
  3. Infrastructure as a Service (IaaS)*.

Deployment Models:

  1. Private cloud.
  2. Community cloud.
  3. Public cloud.
  4. Hybrid cloud.
See also: NIST Cloud Computing Synopis and Recommendations

NIST documents in pdf format...

Best of luck!
Uno

*Thanks to Slag for the correction...
 
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slag

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Infrastructure as a Service (SaaS). Should be IaaS, but yeah, good info.
 

richardycc

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yes, just upgraded a database server to a cloud server, we are hosting it internally thou, due to sensitivity of the data. doing the application server upgrade next, will also be on the cloud. It's the future, embrace it! Amazon is a big player in this space, I was told like 1/2 of their income is from AWS.
 

unokitty

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Amazon Web Services now a $5B business
... Amazon for the first time today disclosed AWS’ real finances. And they are staggering: Amazon Web Services generated $5.16 billion in revenue in the year that ended on March 31.

AWS generated $265 million in operating income from $1.56 billion in revenue in the first quarter of 2015, Amazon said in its earnings report...

As the late Everett Dirksen noted, "A billion here, a billion there, pretty soon, you're talking real money."

Uno
 

corkyg

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I will never store anything on something I do not or cannot control.
 

Mike64

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Hi, guys! Anybody here heard about Cloud computing solutions? It is a remote servers hosted on the internet to store, manage and process data. Is it safe? we are planning to use it in our business. Please let me know, Thank you!
I know all my email is stored on someone else's servers, but there's no way around that. That's why I've never written anything in an email I wouldn't be willing, if it came down to that, to yell out at the top of my lungs in the middle of Times Square at high noon on a balmy Saturday in the middle of June. ETA: (That's one reason why fax machines haven't totally died out yet.)

The most I've ever intentionally uploaded to The Cloud&#8480; is stuff like shopping lists, PDFs generated from Wikipedia, and subway and bus schedules that I leave on Amazon's servers for potential retrieval from my Kindle. Apart from that, I don't even let Firefox sync between my computer and the Kindle. There's no way I'd upload unencrypted data, personal or business, to anyone's server, except maybe something like un-tagged numerical data for purely mathematical analysis. And that only maybe; I'd have to look hard and long at the company doing the hosting and more seriously consider the potential ramifications than I've bothered to do so far.
 
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