Cloverfield Spoiler Thread

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destrekor

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Originally posted by: lokiju
Originally posted by: purbeast0
honestly i really don't see why this is really being compared to blair witch project.

imo, blair witch was more of a fake documentary type of film with editing and all included.

this is straight up supposed to be someone's personal home video camera that was found and the 1 tape that was inside it when it was found.

watching this didn't make me think of blair witch once, and after watching it i still don't think they are similar at all other than they both didn't use hollywood professional cameras.

:thumbsup:

well cloverfield's true filming supposedly included an F23, and I guess the portions that were seen on the trailer were filmed with a Viper, that's the original camera they used. apparently they never used any personal consumer camcorder, but that makes sense because adding special effects to footage from a consumer level camera would look like trash. And then they used an HVX for a lot of the shots. I think the HVX stands out, as it's a very vibrant picture. You see some shots of where the HVX was used in the photos in that interview link below.
the cameras were all claimed used by these folk.
they reference this interview too just that's has a lot of info. good read, and confirms all of what I had been saying about the intended aspect it was supposed to have, and in the end had the aspect perfect imho.
 

purbeast0

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Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Originally posted by: purbeast0
honestly i really don't see why this is really being compared to blair witch project.

imo, blair witch was more of a fake documentary type of film with editing and all included.

this is straight up supposed to be someone's personal home video camera that was found and the 1 tape that was inside it when it was found.

watching this didn't make me think of blair witch once, and after watching it i still don't think they are similar at all other than they both didn't use hollywood professional cameras.

I knew nothing about this movie going into the theatre, but I left feeling exactly how I posted above, which is that this movie felt like a big budget Blair Witch. The premise of how the "movie" came to be may be slightly different, but the perspective and the overall feel of how the story developed is entirely the same.

KT

see i disagree with that completely. in blair witch didn't it even cut to interviews that these "documenters" had done previously? also, they had a film crew with them, and the whole movie was basically them doing a documentary.

cloverfield was nothing like that.
 

WHAMPOM

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Originally posted by: chuckywang
Post your spoilers here.

Ok, so the no. 1 question after watching the movie is where the fvck did that monster come from and how did it get there undetected? The no. 2 question on my mind, and this leaves open the possibility of a sequel is what happens to Lily?

OK! Shaking, amateur camera way overdone. Should have ended with the party scene and went from there on with pro shots.
 

KeithTalent

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Originally posted by: purbeast0
Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Originally posted by: purbeast0
honestly i really don't see why this is really being compared to blair witch project.

imo, blair witch was more of a fake documentary type of film with editing and all included.

this is straight up supposed to be someone's personal home video camera that was found and the 1 tape that was inside it when it was found.

watching this didn't make me think of blair witch once, and after watching it i still don't think they are similar at all other than they both didn't use hollywood professional cameras.

I knew nothing about this movie going into the theatre, but I left feeling exactly how I posted above, which is that this movie felt like a big budget Blair Witch. The premise of how the "movie" came to be may be slightly different, but the perspective and the overall feel of how the story developed is entirely the same.

KT

see i disagree with that completely. in blair witch didn't it even cut to interviews that these "documenters" had done previously? also, they had a film crew with them, and the whole movie was basically them doing a documentary.

cloverfield was nothing like that.

I suppose so, but it would just be like if you took Cloverfield and added some additional commentary and backstory after the fact, the core of the film was the same. The documentary elements almost felt like an addendum to Blair Witch; remove those elements (which were not really necessary in my opinion) and you have the same basic premise.

KT

 

Randum

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at the end ,if you look , when they are looking out on the ferris wheel, right of the coast, you see something plunge into the water. I think they want the viewer to see they landed a month prior and then incubated into those huge things.
and you can assume they killed it because the video tape is labeled as government footage, meaning they found it and have labeled it.
overall, good flick
 

destrekor

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Originally posted by: Randum
at the end ,if you look , when they are looking out on the ferris wheel, right of the coast, you see something plunge into the water. I think they want the viewer to see they landed a month prior and then incubated into those huge things.
and you can assume they killed it because the video tape is labeled as government footage, meaning they found it and have labeled it.
overall, good flick

actually can't assume they killed it. government can have footage of it and it can still be alive. It's like having footage of a war before its over. And, at the end of the credits, everyone is reporting they heard "It's still alive".
I am not expecting at all, but would love a sequel to this. Maybe just another perspective like they discussed before.
 
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Originally posted by: Randum
and you can assume they killed it because the video tape is labeled as government footage, meaning they found it and have labeled it.
overall, good flick

It was a satellite that fell into the water.
 

destrekor

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Originally posted by: Tooncesthedrivingcat
Originally posted by: Randum
and you can assume they killed it because the video tape is labeled as government footage, meaning they found it and have labeled it.
overall, good flick

It was a satellite that fell into the water.

obviously your being oblivious to what was intended: both the satellite crashing into a trench and it came from outer space ideas were mentioned in the film, and that splash represents a key link to both. Maybe it crashed down, or maybe that was a satellite. However, do realize, off the coast of Coney Island, there are no deep sea trenches. And a creature that lives in a deep trench likely does not have the ability to breathe air, unless he was generally living near the sea floor and could live like a whale. It'd be cool if he was from the water, then he could be like Godzilla.
 

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This discussion of the movie is much more interesting than the movie itself. Pity.

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Here is all the viral marketing I could gather from IMDB and various sites.


From JJ Abrams (the producer): The monster has been sleeping beneath the ocean for 1000s of years.

Tagruato is a corporation that owns many different things.

Slusho is a sister corporation for Tagruato.

Slusho is a drink that is sweeping the Asian nation.

Tidowave is sort of environmental group that is against Tagruato, saying that Tagruato pollutes oceans, etc.

Tagruato has at least one deep sea drilling station.

Slusho uses Tagruato to deep sea drill for their secret ingredient (that they dub ?Seabed's Nectar?) to their drink

Tidowave warns on their website that Slusho is not FDA approved, and not to drink it.

Theory: The secret ingredient is presumably from the monster

Tagruato?s drilling station (named Chuai) is destroyed. You can see a news clip here: http://youtube.com/watch?v=NfTWm1nCgLc. Note: I shouldn't have to put this, but for any idiots out there, this news clip is obviously made for the viral marketing, and is not actually a news clip.

Tagruato blames Tidowave for the attack, Tidowave denies the attack.

Theory: Tidowave attacked attacked the drilling station, which woke the monster up, and the monster then destroyed the station. OR the drilling woke up the monster, and the monster destroyed the station.

Tidowave speaks of staging an "event" on their website.

Theory: This could be the destruction of the "oil drilling rig".

Slusho and "Seabed's Nectar" is approved by the FDA.

Tagruato owns a subsidiary called Bold Futura. They launched a satellite (called the Hatsui satellite) that collects data and takes pictures of the ocean (or the ocean bed).

Theory: The satellite located the monster from which they gained the nectar for Slusho.

The Tagruato website had this posted: ?In their latest gesture to reach out to fellow man, Tagruato used the Hatsui satellite to try to identify a rogue piece that is thought to have fallen off of the Japanese Government?s ?ChimpanzIII? satellite. Although Hatsui?s work has not yet been able to confirm the identity of the fallen piece, Tagruato scientists and engineers are busily trying to track and recover the fragment. According to Hatsui data, it disappeared into the Atlantic Ocean late last week.?

Theory: This is what is seen in the ending seen from Rob's camera.

Alternate Theory to drilling/destruction of drilling station woke up monster: The crash from the satellite awoke the monster.

A memo containing financial data for the drilling station was sent as an e-mail for people who ordered Slusho products, with the words "Americans, No oil here! They must have known before they built- The Whistleblower? written at the top.

(This backs up the theory that the drilling is just a front to get nectar from the monster)

________________________________________________________________________

JAMIE & TEDDY STUFF- This is another tie-in to the movie. Site: www.jamieandteddy.com (password: jllovesth). The site contains webvids from Jamie to her boyfriend Teddy. The following recaps all of the webvids.

Jamie and Teddy know Jason, Lily, and Marlena.

Jamie and Teddy are dating

Teddy goes off to do something far away. We aren?t told what

Jamie makes webvids for Teddy to watch while he's away.

Teddy sends Jamie a gift, but tells her not to open it until December.

We learn that Teddy has not called Jamie, and is usually pretty good about calling her.

December rolls around, and Jamie opens the gift. She receives a Slusho hat, what seems to be a sample of "Seabed's Nectar", and a message from Teddy:

The message reads: ?Jamie, listen to me, alright this is not a joke. If you're hearing this before we've spoken, then it means that I've been captured by the company called Tagruato. Ok, TAG-RU-ATO. Now listen. You, this is important. Don't call the authorities. It'll screw everything up. Just sit tight and wait to hear from Randy. He knows to call you. We're on their station ok, and it's like they've found something, or they're making something, but the point is, I can't, I'm not going to be calling you again. You're not gonna hear from me again. I just want you to wait for Randy? he will explain?

Theory: This implies that Teddy is working for Tidowave.

Theory: Teddy is on the oil rigging station undercover, but has been found out by Tagruato.

Jamie decides to call Teddy's bluff and calls Tagruato, which denies Teddy's affiliation, saying they've never heard of him. Jamie immediately gets a call from an unknown number speaking a foreign language, who she hangs up on because she can?t understand them.

Jamie now thinks Teddy is cheating on her for not returning her calls.
Jamie is angry.

Jamie eats "Seabed's Nectar".

Jamie says that the stuff makes her "see everything a lot clearer now".

Jamie cuts the head off a teddy bear to show she is angry at Teddy.

Transcript from Jamie's last video: "Love you haha, I am finally over you and you know what, I feel like a whole new woman and it?s like it?s gonna be the first night of the rest of my life and and Lily is putting this thing together, and I?m gonna go to it and I don?t know why I just soo like I?m like uh the happiest the happiest I?ve ever been in my whole life and I don?t know I have like MASSIVE amounts of energy I?m gonna have MASSIVE amounts of sex with Schneider and it?s just gonna be great and I just think you should say goodbye to these breast (kisses breasts) cause you?re never gonna see them again and look here (slaps butt) I think you?re pathetic."

Note: Jamie can be seen at Rob?s party passed out on a couch.

End of Jamie?s webvids.

Alternate Theory to Seabed's Nectar comes from the monster: Seabed's Nectar is what made and\or transformed the monster. This could be evidenced by the fact that Jamie has gone crazy and feels powerful, etc.

Tagruato puts out a memo that reads:

"{TO:} Level 1 Temporary Provision Staff Member
{FROM:} Judgement Council
{SUBJECT: Trusting Those Out of Our Sight}
{DATE:}11/24/2007


Effective Immediately!

Over the next few days, because of the incident that took place, starting now all letters to the outside will first
pass through our communication center, or they will not go out. Level 1 Personnel? They will remain where they are,
making certain to read the message from start to finish. (How will they know it is authentic, this message that is
dispatched everywhere? When it is inscribed by the ?.)

In addition, working hard/employment rusted overtime? As for the employees, they will be made to wait in their
appointed lodging facility until told otherwise.

If one witnesses an act of misconduct, and neglects to report it to the Council, Chuai?s department bureau will enforce
principles and regard it as a violation. There will be no exceptions."

The back reads" Americans,

The Chuai station hides a dark secret. Good people are going missing. Expect further communication in the near future. - the Whistle Blower"

Theory: The incident is the discovery of Teddy as a double agent for Tidowave.
Theory: Teddy is "The Whistleblower" mentioned earlier

END OF JAMIE/TEDDY STUFF
______________________________________________________________________________


A comment on the Slusho website says simply "BLOOP!". This is possibly a reference to the "BLOOP!" incident of 1997 in which the US detected an ultra-low frequency in the ocean. According to the NOAA (National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration) description, it "rises rapidly in frequency over about one minute and was of sufficient amplitude to be heard on multiple sensors, at a range of over 5,000 km." Though it matches the audio profile of a living creature, there is no known animal that could have produced the sound. If it is an animal, it would have to be, reportedly, much larger than even a Blue Whale, according to scientists who have studied the phenomenon.

Slusho T-Shirts were shipped with half a page of a Japanese newspaper that could be about Hideki Matsui who plays for the Yankeess and is nicknamed "Godzilla".

Rob is in charge of duplicating Slusho?s success in the States.

Sources:
www.Cloverfieldnews.com
www.Cloverfieldclues.com
www.wikipedia.org (for the ?BLOOP!? incident)
 

KeithTalent

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So are you trying to tell me they just ripped off the Slurm episode from Futurama?

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Originally posted by: purbeast0
honestly i really don't see why this is really being compared to blair witch project.

imo, blair witch was more of a fake documentary type of film with editing and all included.

this is straight up supposed to be someone's personal home video camera that was found and the 1 tape that was inside it when it was found.

watching this didn't make me think of blair witch once, and after watching it i still don't think they are similar at all other than they both didn't use hollywood professional cameras.

It was so realistic, you know, never dropping the camera and like the film surviving through a blast that kills the 2 people next to it. Yeah titanium cameras.
 

loup garou

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Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
Originally posted by: purbeast0
honestly i really don't see why this is really being compared to blair witch project.

imo, blair witch was more of a fake documentary type of film with editing and all included.

this is straight up supposed to be someone's personal home video camera that was found and the 1 tape that was inside it when it was found.

watching this didn't make me think of blair witch once, and after watching it i still don't think they are similar at all other than they both didn't use hollywood professional cameras.

It was so realistic, you know, never dropping the camera and like the film surviving through a blast that kills the 2 people next to it. Yeah titanium cameras.
In the beginning, it says "digital SD Card," or something but, whatever. Who cares...
 
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Originally posted by: loup garou
Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
Originally posted by: purbeast0
honestly i really don't see why this is really being compared to blair witch project.

imo, blair witch was more of a fake documentary type of film with editing and all included.

this is straight up supposed to be someone's personal home video camera that was found and the 1 tape that was inside it when it was found.

watching this didn't make me think of blair witch once, and after watching it i still don't think they are similar at all other than they both didn't use hollywood professional cameras.

It was so realistic, you know, never dropping the camera and like the film surviving through a blast that kills the 2 people next to it. Yeah titanium cameras.
In the beginning, it says "digital SD Card," or something but, whatever. Who cares...

and yet the whole movie is treated as if it was videotape....too many plot holes. While it's a pure fiction movie, they could at least get the basics right...
 

purbeast0

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Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
Originally posted by: purbeast0
honestly i really don't see why this is really being compared to blair witch project.

imo, blair witch was more of a fake documentary type of film with editing and all included.

this is straight up supposed to be someone's personal home video camera that was found and the 1 tape that was inside it when it was found.

watching this didn't make me think of blair witch once, and after watching it i still don't think they are similar at all other than they both didn't use hollywood professional cameras.

It was so realistic, you know, never dropping the camera and like the film surviving through a blast that kills the 2 people next to it. Yeah titanium cameras.



the camera was dropped quite a few times.

also you have no clue if the blast killed the 2 people. they were under a bridge, and you saw pieces of the bridge fall onto the camera. the bridge could have simply collapsed from an explosion and fell onto the 2 people and killed them.

actually we have no clue if the 2 people even were killed or not.
 

Cuda1447

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Everyone who claims they were 'nauseated' is a loser. ***** did that to me, not a shaky cam. Movie was excellent. Of course it wasn't realistic, it was a fucking movie about a monster attacking NYC. What did you expect? Just be entertained damnit.

Great movie, perfect length. Only complaint is I wish it was rated R so we could have more gore.
 

Captante

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My younger daughter really wanted to see this & since I wasn't working today I took her to a 5pm showing ... despite expecting to hate it, I ended up being very impressed & enjoying it a lot. (I too missed the splash in the background at Coney Island though!)

There were numerous plot-holes & errors but since I go to movies to be entertained not nit-pick that wasn't a problem. Also I thought the first-person perspective was what made the movie unique & I really started to feel like I was living the experience instead of watching it.

If you are expecting a National Geographic documentary then don't bother with it, however if like me you loved Godzilla movies as a kid & especially if you like sc-fi oriented first-person shooter games you will almost certainly like it ... just go with an open mind & an imagination!
 

Modeps

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Originally posted by: Captante
There were numerous plot-holes & errors but since I go to movies to be entertained not nit-pick that wasn't a problem. Also I thought the first-person perspective was what made the movie unique & I really started to feel like I was living the experience instead of watching it.

I'm just curious as to what you thought these 'plot holes' were or what errors occurred. A monster attacked the city, the dude went to go find is girl, they all died. The End. Not much to it in terms of plot...
 

randay

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Originally posted by: Modeps
Originally posted by: Captante
There were numerous plot-holes & errors but since I go to movies to be entertained not nit-pick that wasn't a problem. Also I thought the first-person perspective was what made the movie unique & I really started to feel like I was living the experience instead of watching it.

I'm just curious as to what you thought these 'plot holes' were or what errors occurred. A monster attacked the city, the dude went to go find is girl, they all died. The End. Not much to it in terms of plot...

Im not sure but i think one was when they were walking through the tunnels. I think someone said it would have took them forever so it might have been much longer in real life.

personally I dont understand how any organic creature can survive missiles and bombs and what not.
 

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Sorry if this has been answered already. Has anyone checked out the pics on 1-18-08.com? If you flip over one of the pictures there is a bunch of japanese writing on it. Anyone know what it says?
 

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THIS may be a SPOILER (ok you've got your warning), can anyone confirm or deny?
I obviously still haven't watched the movie... *fucking "Stumble!" plug-in*

This message as well as the next two were merged from another "Cloverfield Spoiler" thread.
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