CM9 Alpha for HP Touchpad...

[ChronoReverse]

If it works well enough then that's fine. Email is a separate app from Gmail though.

In any case, the point is that if you start encountering problems (wifi, battery life, crashes), then before blaming Android or Cyanogenmod, it's best to full wipe.

 

[SunnyD]

Whats the battery issue?

Battery drain while "sleeping" is atrocious. I can set the thing down at 10pm with a 90% charge and it will be dead by morning. No, it's not the battery - running the stock NC android, I get about 3 weeks of standby time.

 

[ChronoReverse]

Well, there's the two things then. Wipe to install cleanly and sign off Google Talk.

If there's still heavy battery drain, it's either low wifi signal or a misbehaving app.

Install Better Battery Stats to look at the Partial Wake locks.

Install Battery Monitor Widget to track the power drain rates.

 

[WelshBloke]

Battery drain while "sleeping" is atrocious. I can set the thing down at 10pm with a 90% charge and it will be dead by morning. No, it's not the battery - running the stock NC android, I get about 3 weeks of standby time.

I'm not noticing that issue with mine. I'll leave it of the charging cradle for awhile and see what happens.


Its on 20ish hours and 30% at the mo and I've been reading quite a lot on it today. I'll charge it up and see how it goes.

 

[superxero044]

Mine only has the problem some of the time

 

[ponyo]

Battery drain while "sleeping" is atrocious. I can set the thing down at 10pm with a 90% charge and it will be dead by morning. No, it's not the battery - running the stock NC android, I get about 3 weeks of standby time.

It's much better for me on CM9. It was terrible on CM7. I installed CM9 Alpha2 last night and went to bed with about 90% battery life. 17 hour later it's currently showing 78% battery life. Try out CM9 Alpha2.

I used ES File Explorer to stream my movies on my Windows computer and it worked great. I was able to stream and play 1080p movies with Dice Player.

 

[Spoooon]

Battery drain while "sleeping" is atrocious. I can set the thing down at 10pm with a 90% charge and it will be dead by morning. No, it's not the battery - running the stock NC android, I get about 3 weeks of standby time.

My battery drain is no where near that bad. It's not awesome or anything, but I can go a few days without charging it with light to moderate use.

 

[Chocu1a]

Battery drain while "sleeping" is atrocious. I can set the thing down at 10pm with a 90% charge and it will be dead by morning. No, it's not the battery - running the stock NC android, I get about 3 weeks of standby time.

No problem here either. I tested it out after reading about the drain problems. With light usage,email, browsing, no gaming, maybe 25-30 minutes per day, I got 4 full days before I had to put it back on the charger.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

It's much better for me on CM9. It was terrible on CM7. I installed CM9 Alpha2 last night and went to bed with about 90% battery life. 17 hour later it's currently showing 78% battery life. Try out CM9 Alpha2.

I used ES File Explorer to stream my movies on my Windows computer and it worked great. I was able to stream and play 1080p movies with Dice Player.

its about the same on CM7. Maybe you had some bad apps running. Either way in about 3 days the tablet dies on standby.

As an iPad 2 owner, i can tell you that this is horrendous battery life. I should be waking up like 2% use overnight only.

 

[ponyo]

its about the same on CM7. Maybe you had some bad apps running. Either way in about 3 days the tablet dies on standby.

As an iPad 2 owner, i can tell you that this is horrendous battery life. I should be waking up like 2% use overnight only.

It's good enough for me. I'm sure it'll get better once it reaches final release. Even with the problems I like it better than iPad2.

 

[ChronoReverse]

Well, with CM9a2, my standby power draw has dropped enough that it could last over five days now. Still worse than the iPad2's excellent standby life but more than enough for me especially since I have the touchstone charger.

 

[WelshBloke]

its about the same on CM7. Maybe you had some bad apps running. Either way in about 3 days the tablet dies on standby.

As an iPad 2 owner, i can tell you that this is horrendous battery life. I should be waking up like 2% use overnight only.

Am I missing something here? Why is 3 days standby horrendous?

How often are you 3 days without a power source?

If it's a real hassle for you to plug it in at night you could just get the touchstone charger and stick it on that when you go to bed.

 

[Chocu1a]

Who here has another Android tablet? What is the standby life on those? Considering how my phones battery life is, I think the 3-5 days in standby is pretty good.

 

[ponyo]

Who here has another Android tablet? What is the standby life on those? Considering how my phones battery life is, I think the 3-5 days in standby is pretty good.

Tablets have large battery so 3-5 days standby isn't that great. I checked my CM9 Touchpad again this morning and it lost 6% overnight. This is alpha build so that's perfectly acceptable for me. If he's so obsessed with standby battery life, he could just use WebOS as that has similar standby battery life of iPad2. For me it's non-issue at this point because 1) it's ALPHA BUILD! 2) I have Touchstone charger I normally place the Touchpad so it's always charged. It's super convenient and something I wished iPad and Android tablets had.

I have original 7" Galaxy Tab. It has virtually no standby battery drain just like the WebOS Touchpad and iPad. It has smaller battery since it's a 7" device.

 

[Chocu1a]

Yeah, I have a touchstone charger & it is by far the best device I have encountered. I am amazed it works so well with Android, bringing up the clock when charging. I never expected that.

 

[Aikouka]

Am I missing something here? Why is 3 days standby horrendous?

It's just not as good as other devices. Although, I give it a bit of a pass given it's only an alpha release.

Yeah, I have a touchstone charger & it is by far the best device I have encountered. I am amazed it works so well with Android, bringing up the clock when charging. I never expected that.

The worst part about the Touchstone charger is mainly how Palm failed to make everything work well with it. The Touchpad can only be charged in two positions: home button on the right, home button on the bottom. The issue is that the Touchpad case will then open up downwards if you have the Touchpad in landscape mode on the charger. It would have been much better to have it open upwards so you could drape the front flap over the top.

I would leave my Touchpad's screen visible, but the case just makes that too much of a pain. It's too bad, because other than that and the lack of a latching mechanism for the front flap, it's a nice case.

 

[Nintendesert]

I have some cheapo case that lets it kind of click closed so that's not an issue with my touchstone, but I agree it's an oversight not to allow it to charge in any orientation. It took my forever to get my parents to put it on correctly.

I like this Alpha 2 build though, netflix works no problem and it runs really well. i haven't noticed any crazy problems yet. I really really like CM9.

 

[CZroe]

It's just not as good as other devices. Although, I give it a bit of a pass given it's only an alpha release.



The worst part about the Touchstone charger is mainly how Palm failed to make everything work well with it. The Touchpad can only be charged in two positions: home button on the right, home button on the bottom. The issue is that the Touchpad case will then open up downwards if you have the Touchpad in landscape mode on the charger. It would have been much better to have it open upwards so you could drape the front flap over the top.

I would leave my Touchpad's screen visible, but the case just makes that too much of a pain. It's too bad, because other than that and the lack of a latching mechanism for the front flap, it's a nice case.

The whole point of the screen coming on when it's on charge is to SEE it as a desktop clock/calendar/notification device. Having ladnscape mode only work your way would ruin it for people with the case.

Personally, I prefer that it charge faster with the screen off.

 

[Aikouka]

The whole point of the screen coming on when it's on charge is to SEE it as a desktop clock/calendar/notification device. Having ladnscape mode only work your way would ruin it for people with the case.

Personally, I prefer that it charge faster with the screen off.

Wait... what? I'm complaining about the CASE and how it works with the charger. I don't like that the front flap laying down in front of it.

Although, I guess I could... take it off?

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Am I missing something here? Why is 3 days standby horrendous?

How often are you 3 days without a power source?

If it's a real hassle for you to plug it in at night you could just get the touchstone charger and stick it on that when you go to bed.

Because no tablet should eat power that fast when you're just leaving it there and checking a bit of email left and right? I know the iPad 2 is the gold standard in terms of battery life, but as SunnyD pointed out his Nook Color can go 3 weeks without a charge.

You're right I *am* next to a power source a lot, but the I shouldn't have to worry about charging all the time. My gf leaves her iPad wherever its convenient. Sometimes its by the bed. Sometimes its in front of the TV. Sometimes its in the kitchen after she looked up a recipe, or by the dinner table. The point is, we rarely worry about charging our iPads.

I'm not asking for the TouchPad to beat the iPad. I'm asking for it to get somewhere close. Now I recognize that this is an Alpha product, but this has been an issue since CM7 first landed, and maybe many Android users are used to things being buggy and dysfunctional in ROMs, but I honestly would like a stable ROM.

The more I play with these devices, the more I realize there's a lot of work to be done. Take my SGS2 for example. It's almost out for 9 months and CM7 has market issues still and will never be usable until ICS drops, but ICS is in a complete state of chaos on this phone. Basically it's modded stock ROMs or bust on this phone.

I feel like so many people make excuses like "Oh I was using my touchpad heavily anyway" so they excuse the battery issue, but in reality it IS an issue. The TouchPad might do fine streaming video and playing video, but its standby battery is just horrendous. It probably uses 5x more battery than it should be using. The fact that webOS does so much better means that there's room for improvement on Android. I do hope the awesome developers find a way someday though.

 

[superxero044]

So new chrome update and chrome says I don't have 4.0?

 

[CZroe]

It's just not as good as other devices. Although, I give it a bit of a pass given it's only an alpha release.



The worst part about the Touchstone charger is mainly how Palm failed to make everything work well with it. The Touchpad can only be charged in two positions: home button on the right, home button on the bottom. The issue is that the Touchpad case will then open up downwards if you have the Touchpad in landscape mode on the charger. It would have been much better to have it open upwards so you could drape the front flap over the top.

I would leave my Touchpad's screen visible, but the case just makes that too much of a pain. It's too bad, because other than that and the lack of a latching mechanism for the front flap, it's a nice case.

The whole point of the screen coming on when it's on charge is to SEE it as a desktop clock/calendar/notification device. Having ladnscape mode only work your way would ruin it for people with the case.

Personally, I prefer that it charge faster with the screen off.

Wait... what? I'm complaining about the CASE and how it works with the charger. I don't like that the front flap laying down in front of it.

Although, I guess I could... take it off?

That's why I said that supporting landscape touchstone charging your way "would ruin it for people with the case" who actually want to use the desktop charging mode where the screen becomes an always-on info display. They would have to remove the case. GOT IT?! I guess you could complain that it doesn't support landscape charging in either orientation, but you didn't. You wondered why they chose one over the other and I told you.

 

[cronos]

After months of waiting, I finally bit the bullet just now and...... Wow!

This thing is truly fantastic. Installation was very easy and went smoothly without a hitch. I haven't tested all my regular apps but I did test the important video ones (Plex and Netflix) and they both run perfectly.

ICS looks/feels/functions really well and it looks really good (this is the first time I've played around with ICS, except some odd 10s messing at the stores).

This will increase the functionality of my Touchpad about 10 fold in our household. What a shame that the camera doesn't work, as I've mentioned above that I use Skype on the Touchpad every Sunday morning for a video conference. But I don't mind booting to WebOS once a week just for that.

I'm going to watch the battery consumption closely. Hopefully it's not going to be too bad.

 

[ViRGE]

So new chrome update and chrome says I don't have 4.0?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22936668&postcount=13

Basically the version of Android listed in the build.prop file for the OS is wrong.

 

[Ichinisan]

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22936668&postcount=13

Basically the version of Android listed in the build.prop file for the OS is wrong.

I asked the folks in #cyanogenmod if I should spoof my version and they said "No." I'm going to do it.

Where is build.prop located?

[edit]
Here's what I was told:

<+Kaik541> Ichinisan: if you change the build ID, you will break market compatibility with protected apps

I guess apps like Netflix will stop working if I change build.prop