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Kabob

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Still, that's a damned reasonable price for an Eotech. Thanks for the tip!

IIRC, weren't the Bushnell Holosights _made_ by Eotech?

EOTech does make the optic for Bushnell but it's certainly not the same quality as an actual EOTech.

Browse around, I've seen like new EOTech 511's for $250 shipped before on the ar15.com boards (although I do NOT like the N battery models). 512's I've seen as low as $300.
 

bob4432

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EOTech does make the optic for Bushnell but it's certainly not the same quality as an actual EOTech.

are they the refurbs? 2nds? weak on the features? different housings? only the smaller batteries and not the AAs?
 

Kabob

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It's an entirely different unit. It doesn't say "EOTech" anywhere on the unit because it isn't an EOTech. The design layout of the EOTech is what they're going for, people who want an EOTech look without an EOTech price.

Honestly it's probably a pretty good optic for the range, I'm just not a fan of Bushnell as a whole.
 

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It's an entirely different unit. It doesn't say "EOTech" anywhere on the unit because it isn't an EOTech. The design layout of the EOTech is what they're going for, people who want an EOTech look without an EOTech price.
Not to be an ass, but this completely contradicts what I've read elsewhere, which is that Eotech makes the sight, and it's basically the same as the other Eotechs sans the armored casing and a couple other features. Given the pricing, this seems reasonable.

http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=270612

I readily admit there are other sights which are Eotech knock-offs not made by Eotech; that does not seem to be the case here.
 

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reading arfcom, it seems a few people have issues with sighting these in; they had to move the rear sight all the way L or R to try to sight them in.
 

Brock123

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Sorry I can't post at work. I did alot of research before ordering. I actually picked up a Bushnell XLP(low profile cheap holosight) cheap to make sure I liked holosights before buying a new one. The bushnell is the same sight as an eotech with a couple of differences. First they are gen1 eotechs meaning you don't get as good of battery life or as many brightness settings. Also, they don't have a night vison mode(ir) just red and they don't have a metal hood. That being said for a weekend paper puncher the Bushnell holosight is fine and in the rare chance I need it in a shtf situation the Bushnell will deliver long as I don't beat on it with a hammer. That being said I would never use a battery operated sight without some sort of back up iron sights.

One of the better threads I came across and the info matches what I found else where.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=97026
 

bob4432

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Sorry I can't post at work. I did alot of research before ordering. I actually picked up a Bushnell XLP(low profile cheap holosight) cheap to make sure I liked holosights before buying a new one. The bushnell is the same sight as an eotech with a couple of differences. First they are gen1 eotechs meaning you don't get as good of battery life or as many brightness settings. Also, they don't have a night vison mode(ir) just red and they don't have a metal hood. That being said for a weekend paper puncher the Bushnell holosight is fine and in the rare chance I need it in a shtf situation the Bushnell will deliver long as I don't beat on it with a hammer. That being said I would never use a battery operated sight without some sort of back up iron sights.

One of the better threads I came across and the info matches what I found else where.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=97026

interesting. thanks for the info.
 

bob4432

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Noveske? LWRC? Barrett!?!?

I'd love to pick up a Noveske 14.5" lightweight Reece barrel in a VLTOR VIS upper receiver, but I don't have $1500 or whatever to blow on an upper...

maybe he has a oly or vulcan upper w/ schmidt & bender glass??? j/k zebo
 

Zebo

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Didn't realize there'd been more posts on this thread.

While he'd only be gaining 2" of barrel length I assume that the 18" uses a rifle-length gas system, in which case he'd be gaining nearly double the sight radius. For someone learning to use irons accurately that wouldn't be bad thing at all, plus the rifle length gas system is slightly more...pleasant to shoot (although neither is bad at all).

+1 to your mags, I love PMags, DH are also excellent as are Okay. Aimsurplus.com has C-Products 30 round mags for $7.95 each. I've heard mixed reviews about C-Products although I've never had any issues with 'em.



Noveske? LWRC? Barrett!?!?

I'd love to pick up a Noveske 14.5" lightweight Reece barrel in a VLTOR VIS upper receiver, but I don't have $1500 or whatever to blow on an upper...

I have a noveske with VIS and a LMT Piston both 16".

They are pretty much safe queens. I like shooting my flat top Colt 6520 (pencil barrel) most. I got it down to 5 lbs vs. 9 on those others. It's weird I'm not a small dude but I love light guns. My favorite Shotgun is Benelli Ultra Light have a SBE sitting in safe. My Carry Pistol is a plastic XD even though I have sigs. And I have been trying to make my AR as light as possible for a year now with all the ammo and shit attached it gets unbelievably heavy quick if you use it all day.

Anyone want a good deal on a aimpoint or eotech the real deals email me. I have a few FS. Eotech 553, Aimpoint Micro T1 and Aimpont Comp C3.
 
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Kabob

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Not to be an ass, but this completely contradicts what I've read elsewhere, which is that Eotech makes the sight, and it's basically the same as the other Eotechs sans the armored casing and a couple other features. Given the pricing, this seems reasonable.

http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=270612

I readily admit there are other sights which are Eotech knock-offs not made by Eotech; that does not seem to be the case here.

Gosh, you're such an ass! :awe:

I've not heard that before (I'd heard they used EOTech parts but that the guts/technology behind them was nowhere close to EOTech). Maybe I'm wrong. As I said before though for a range gun it should work fine, I wouldn't bring one to a carbine course or anything though.

I have a noveske with VIS and a LMT Piston both 16".

They are pretty much safe queens. I like shooting my flat top Colt 6520 (pencil barrel) most. I got it down to 5 lbs vs. 9 on those others. It's weird I'm not a small dude but I love light guns. My favorite Shotgun is Benelli Ultra Light have a SBE sitting in safe. My Carry Pistol is a plastic XD even though I have sigs. And I have been trying to make my AR as light as possible for a year now with all the ammo and shit attached it gets unbelievably heavy quick if you use it all day.

Anyone want a good deal on a aimpoint or eotech the real deals email me. I have a few FS. Eotech 553, Aimpoint Micro T1 and Aimpont Comp C3.

I'm with you, I don't put rails on my AR's (don't really need a VFG and there are other ways to mount a light), it's just extra weight I don't need. I don't have any lightweight barreled uppers, BCM is coming out with a 16" midlength lightweight barrel upper this year that I may look into but I'm more interested in their 14.5" midlength that's coming out soon. If it came in a pencil barrel it'd be the perfect upper...guess I can't have my cake and eat it too or whatever.

Why are you selling your T1? Everyone I know who has one absolutely raves about 'em. I've always liked Aimpoints but I'm contemplating getting an EOTech just for fun.
 

Zebo

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The T1 has Larue tactical quick detach mount BTW. FOV too obstructive IMO compared to M3 I got used to.. also I've become just as fast with a TA11 so no need for it as I get all benefits of CQB with 400 yard ID and accuracy too.
 

Kabob

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FOV shouldn't be an issue with both eyes open. If you're into light weight you can't beat it.
 

Brock123

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Just thought I would post that optic sales doesn't have the holosights and so they gave me a refund. Well guess I will try and find a good deal on an eotech.
 

amddude

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Just thought I would post that optic sales doesn't have the holosights and so they gave me a refund. Well guess I will try and find a good deal on an eotech.

I do not recommend eotechs. I've heard several stories lately about them just flat out fucking falling off mounts. Google around and you'll find it.
 

Kabob

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Woot for thread resurrection!

There's nothing wrong with EOTechs and I'm not sure where you're hearing of them just falling off, especially falling off of mounts considering they don't use mounts (unless you're talking about something like a LaRue QD mount).

If you do get an EOTech though avoid the "N Cell" battery versions like the plague, they tend to have alot of issues. The CR123 battery variants are the best followed closely by the AA battery versions. Also, newer technology models have the least issues (XPS-2 being the best or so I hear).

That said I prefer Aimpoints, they're more rugged and the batteries literally last 50-100x as long. The reticle of the EOTechs is pretty slick though.
 

bob4432

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Woot for thread resurrection!

There's nothing wrong with EOTechs and I'm not sure where you're hearing of them just falling off, especially falling off of mounts considering they don't use mounts (unless you're talking about something like a LaRue QD mount).

If you do get an EOTech though avoid the "N Cell" battery versions like the plague, they tend to have alot of issues. The CR123 battery variants are the best followed closely by the AA battery versions. Also, newer technology models have the least issues (XPS-2 being the best or so I hear).

That said I prefer Aimpoints, they're more rugged and the batteries literally last 50-100x as long. The reticle of the EOTechs is pretty slick though.

aimpont w/ a eotech reticle is what is needed
 

Brock123

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My Bushnell xlp hasn't given me any issues I just want a full size one. I am also looking for a quick detach now. I want to be able to switch between a scope and a red dot. I got the scope all set up and it comes on and off good while holding zero but need to figure out something with the red dot. I might get a Vortex Strikefire because it is reasonable cheap has good reviews and uses a standard 30mm mount. I have been trying to figure out if the full size bushnell with fit on eotech mount but I can't find any info any where.
 
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