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RossGr

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Unfortunately it seems that Onstar is a cellular network. In Oregon if you get more then 5 or 10 miles off of I5 cell service is spotty or nonexistant. They were lost in a very remote region, cell phones are useless. I would bet that you could even lose GPS reception in many of the canyons of So. Oregon.

It is my contentions that tech toys cost this man his life. The fatal route from Grants Pass to Gold Beach was plotted in both Google Maps and Microsoft Streets and Trips. This gives a whole new meaning to the term "killer Apps". If you are stranded anywhere in remote regions of the Western US all a GPS can do is tell you exactly where you are going to die.

I have lived my entire life in Oregon, over the years we have had hunters while lost, we have had hikers and mountian climbers die while lost or caught in winter storms, but in the last 2 years we have started seeing tursites lost and stranded on roads they should not have even known about. It now appears that internet maps may be the blame.

I have used these "killer aps" to locate businesses in distant citys and have noted that they usually gave me some bizarre route that I would not normally use. The message seems to be if you are using these "killer aps" to cross remote regions you need to use your head and avoid anything that is not a main Highway.

 

BooGiMaN

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Originally posted by: mzkhadir
the rescuers came up short:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16079394/

wow so they actually made contact with him while he was still alive....


"Searchers told NBC News that they located Kim on Tuesday and at one point they were able to make direct contact with him. They explored ways to lower a medic to the area, they said, but it was not immediately clear whether that attempt ultimately failed or was too late to save Kim."



 

HN

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Originally posted by: mzkhadir
the rescuers came up short:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16079394/

wait a minute, they found him yesterday?
Searchers told NBC News that they located Kim on Tuesday and at one point they were able to make direct contact with him. They explored ways to lower a medic to the area, they said, but it was not immediately clear whether that attempt ultimately failed or was too late to save Kim.

Rescuers frantically tried to work out ways to reach Kim in the impassable snow-jammed area over the next hours, Anderson said, but they couldn?t make it in time.
 

thetxstang

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Originally posted by: mzkhadir
the rescuers came up short:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16079394/

Searchers told NBC News that they located Kim on Tuesday and at one point they were able to make direct contact with him.

Did I read this correctly? I thought nobody had a clue as to Kim's whereabouts until just a couple of hours ago.


Edited to add: Two others beat me to it. Must've read it correctly after all...
 

Rudee

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Originally posted by: tangent1138
Originally posted by: eleison
Originally posted by: Slick5150
That's too bad. I can't figure out why he would leave the road and start traveling through completely unfamiliar and rugged terrain like that, but, I'm sure he felt it was his best chance to help his family.



Okay, even though I felt really sorry that he died.. I cannot help thinking that he was an idiot for leaving his car... what did he expect to find in such a rugged and desolate terrain? Did he think there was going to be a restaurant or a mall "just arround the corner"? Just doesn't make sense to me... I would have at least stayed by the car and if possible tried to keep as warm as possible.. Yea, 20/20 is highsight.. but its pretty common sense.. it is the option with the highest chance of survival... maybe I'm just not seeing something here..

-Eleison



they said he planned to only go out for the day. maybe he was going to leave a trail back to the car to increase their odds then got lost/disoriented by hypothermia.

i think, as any good father, he was willing to do anything to increase the odds of his family surviving, even if it meant his own death.


The car was bogged down on the road. But instead of following the road to locate help he goes off into the brush. WTF was he thinking? Just not a clever person at all.
 

SmoochyTX

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Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
Originally posted by: mzkhadir
the rescuers came up short:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16079394/
wow so they actually made contact with him while he was still alive....
"Searchers told NBC News that they located Kim on Tuesday and at one point they were able to make direct contact with him. They explored ways to lower a medic to the area, they said, but it was not immediately clear whether that attempt ultimately failed or was too late to save Kim."
When I read that, I started to cry.
 

paulney

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Originally posted by: thetxstang
Originally posted by: mzkhadir
the rescuers came up short:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16079394/

Searchers told NBC News that they located Kim on Tuesday and at one point they were able to make direct contact with him.

Did I read this correctly? I thought nobody had a clue as to Kim's whereabouts until just a couple of hours ago.


Edited to add: Two others beat me to it. Must've read it correctly after all...

That's very bizarre...
 

wazzledoozle

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Originally posted by: paulney
Originally posted by: thetxstang
Originally posted by: mzkhadir
the rescuers came up short:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16079394/

Searchers told NBC News that they located Kim on Tuesday and at one point they were able to make direct contact with him.

Did I read this correctly? I thought nobody had a clue as to Kim's whereabouts until just a couple of hours ago.


Edited to add: Two others beat me to it. Must've read it correctly after all...

That's very bizarre...


 

JulesMaximus

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I thought everyone knew that if you get stuck in a snow storm in your car you should stay in the car...your chances of survival out in the elements are not good and the longer you go the lower your chances of survival are.
 

dethman

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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I thought everyone knew that if you get stuck in a snow storm in your car you should stay in the car...your chances of survival out in the elements are not good and the longer you go the lower your chances of survival are.

try saying that after you've spent seven days in a car without sign of help and your children and wife starving in front of you.
 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
Originally posted by: mzkhadir
the rescuers came up short:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16079394/

wow so they actually made contact with him while he was still alive....


"Searchers told NBC News that they located Kim on Tuesday and at one point they were able to make direct contact with him. They explored ways to lower a medic to the area, they said, but it was not immediately clear whether that attempt ultimately failed or was too late to save Kim."


That's nothing surprising.

It could just mean that they found a dead, stiff body in the snow yesterday and couldn't get it out until today.
 

Kaido

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Man, my heart sank when I read the news that he was found dead Condolences to his family...
 

mzkhadir

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Originally posted by: chuckywang
Would he have died if he just stayed with his family?

Sometimes family gives you strength to survive. We can never know if that could have helped him.
 

91TTZ

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It's easy to make decisions when you're sitting in your warm house typing away at your computer. When you haven't eaten in days, your mind doesn't work right. Also, when you're cold, it makes things worse. He probably started off with good intentions and quickly got lost. He probably didn't even start to look for help until he felt it was almost too late.
 

RossGr

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It could well be that his body was found yesterday and they simply did not annoucnce it until the family had been notified. I could also imagian it requiring a signifant effort to reach the body. He was not found in the middle of an air strip after all. They could have spent the night figuring out how to get to him, then the next morning executing the plan. They may not have made the official announcement until they were ready to retrive the body.
 

feralkid

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Originally posted by: Marinski
I know this is crappy to say but If he drove a GM he could of had On Star. Just another reason to drive american.

You are right.


That was a very crappy thing to say.
:disgust:
 
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