In the other thread they were saying a barrier is different than a wall.
God, you just don't think clearly. No one here has a hard time admitting that news sources can be biased. In fact, you just quoted me saying that everyone is biased. What they're not doing here is caving into your Chicken Little-ism about it. Largely because they know your concern is disingenuous. As in, you might have said that about Fox News today, but we all know you've never said that about Fox News before.You're wrong then. Just today in fact I said that I used to go to Fox to see what anti-Obama FUD they were peddling at the time. Now today, CNN does the same thing with Trump. Fox is clearly right leaning. CNN is clearly left. Not sure why this is so hard to admit for people.
And while I agree it is impossible to be truly free of any bias, that is different than purposely and consciously coloring a story the way one wants, as CNN does when it comes to anti-Trump news.
In the other thread, I told you that the Republicans shouldn't have voted against the wall then when they had the Democratic votes they needed.In the other thread they were saying a barrier is different than a wall.
The problem with reactionaries is quite literally that they're always reacting. Everything is right now, reacting from one crisis to the next with no memory of the past except for what serves that right now crisis agenda, and with no vision for the future either. It's all just right now, react. Just look at their posts and you can see it. Just look at Trump's leadership and it's obvious.Haha when confronted with empirical evidence he was wrong Spidey just declared it boring and ignored it.
Lolz. Emotions over facts.
God, you just don't think clearly. No one here has a hard time admitting that news sources can be biased. In fact, you just quoted me saying that everyone is biased. What they're not doing here is caving into your Chicken Little-ism about it. Largely because they know your concern is disingenuous. As in, you might have said that about Fox News today, but we all know you've never said that about Fox News before.
I sincerely suggest that you start taking some personal responsibility for your communications here. Because then you might see that your problem isn't necessarily that people disagree with on the issues, or because you're a Trumper, but because you're a proven habitual liar. Albeit a rather entertaining one, which is why your posts get so much attention.
I'll take my turn...The average illegal immigrant does not have the resources of El Chapo. A physical barrier is not the be all end all answer, but it will stop a lot of the low hanging fruit from entering illegally.
It is at crisis level now because politicians have been talking tough for years if not decades but doing little to nothing about the actual problem. Now Trump wants to do the same thing H. Clinton, B. Obama, C. Schumur, and N. Pelosi called for in the past.
Now your turn. Why is a physical barrier, a wall, the exact same things prominent Democrats called for in the past a crisis today worth shutting the government down over? The funding being asked for accounts for some .01% of our budget. Suddenly today the Democrats just can't spend a little money on something they've stated we need before?
You just lied right now by saying that people were having a hard time seeing that CNN is biased while quoting me saying that everyone and everything is biased.I am not a liar. What have I lied about? But you can be VP of my fan club, second to fskimospy.
There is a difference between unconscious bias and purposely slanting a story. To me this seems like a conscious choice by CNN to abandon a story that could show Trump in a good light. Just like how they've purposely (in my opinion) crafted stories to make Trump look bad.
You just lied right now by saying that people were having a hard time seeing that CNN is biased while quoting me saying that everyone and everything is biased.
That was you lying. A baldfaced lie even, as usual. Your remarkable talent for that is a big part of your entertainment factor here.
I am not lying.
I'll take my turn...
It's not worth Trump shutting down the government. Trump had a deal which would have funded his wall 6 months ago and he reneged. If it was that important why the fuck didn't the Republicans fund it for 2 years?
Clearly it isn't that important to him for security. He wants it politically because he got all the lemmings ginned up with "build the wall and Mexico will pay for it"
As for Dems who supported it in 06, fencing was erected along with other security measures. Guess what, technology has changed a lot in the last 13 years. We can use that along with additional personnel at ports of entry. We don't need another Great Wall of China.
Since when did 5 billion become nothing? We don't need to spend 5B just for Trump to chest thump.
CASH THOSE MEXICAN CHECKS!!!
CASH THOSE MEXICAN CHECKS!!!
You missed my edit, so I'll repeat it.People don't have a problem admitting everyone has bias unconsciously, that isn't up for debate really. The bias I'm talking about is purposeful and conscious. And if you look at the first page, there was some trouble admitting it by lefty posters. I am not lying.
These seem to sum up the wall:
You missed my edit, so I'll repeat it.
Why should we care about your concerns of bias in others when you're so obviously biased yourself? Unconscious or intentional?
It's cute propaganda, I get it, to denounce bias in others while distracting from your own, but people who value critical thinking see right through that BS.
You are arguing that everyone is biased but my objective view says you are incorrect. I am not biased myself. Everything has a rose colored tint and that is the way the world is.I would argue the other way around, that everyone is biased and there is no such thing as unbiased. Therefore, when people complain that something is biased, what they're really saying is that it doesn't conform to their bias. Case in point: I've never Slow complain about Fox News' bias.
You missed my edit, so I'll repeat it.
Why should we care about your concerns of bias in others when you're so obviously biased yourself? Unconscious or intentional?
It's cute propaganda, I get it, to denounce bias in others while distracting from your own, but people who value critical thinking see right through that BS.
I would argue the other way around, that everyone is biased and there is no such thing as unbiased. Therefore, when people complain that something is biased, what they're really saying is that it doesn't conform to their bias. Case in point: I've never Slow complain about Fox News' bias.
It doesn't have to be measured in any particular time period, it should be examined holistically. From that the answer is clear - illegal immigration is at historic lows.
Dude, we already addressed this. No one believes you care about media spin except when it's anti-Trump spin.Everyone is biased, no? That doesn't mean that CNN isn't being consciously biased, it is called "spin". Why should one care about spin, propaganda? I dunno... thought it'd be something Americans care about when talking about their government and what actions we should or shouldn't take.
I've voted for Democrats and Republicans over the last ~20 years or so. Probably pretty close to 50/50, though I do prefer the right today, right now. Can you say the same, or do you tend to vote for one party? If so, do you think that is because that one party is just simply always right, always have the best candidates? Or maybe they just sell you what you want to hear better?
Everyone is biased, no? That doesn't mean that CNN isn't being consciously biased, it is called "spin". Why should one care about spin, propaganda? I dunno... thought it'd be something Americans care about when talking about their government and what actions we should or shouldn't take.
I've voted for Democrats and Republicans over the last ~20 years or so. Probably pretty close to 50/50, though I do prefer the right today, right now. Can you say the same, or do you tend to vote for one party? If so, do you think that is because that one party is just simply always right, always have the best candidates? Or maybe they just sell you what you want to hear better?
The question was in months. It seems perfectly reasonable to answer in months.
Dude, we already addressed this. No one believes you care about media spin except when it's anti-Trump spin.
This is simply not true. There are a few mainstream editorial authors with a severe case of TDS, but CNN has used kid gloves on Trump relative to other networks.Yea, the story that ran an expose on a dog's ear looking like Trump and purposely edited a video of Trump in Japan to make it look much different than what actually happened isn't biased because they have some token critical stories about the left. Sure.
I used to go to Fox every day to see what fear they were peddling about Obama, now CNN does the exact same thing about Trump.
Do we really need to bring out what you’ve said about Democrats over the years again?
I remember a previous thread where a similar claim was made and it turned out that you *may* have voted Democrat around 20 years ago.