CNN doxxes Reddit user over Trump wrestling gif

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Jhhnn

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I'm in the odd position of defending a point made by someone who called me a liar, but he's correct that the concept of authoritarianism is broader than just government.

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/authoritarianism?s=t

Certainly, individuals and corporate entities can have attitudes and display behaviors which are authoritarian. You can call it something else when not applied to government, but whatever word you use will have substantially the same meaning.

I just don't think that legally threatening to tell the truth about someone is necessarily an authoritarian act.

Meh. CNN has no authority over the guy in the first place. It's not like they can fire him like an employer, cancel the contract or take away his phone like a parent might.
 

woolfe9998

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Meh. CNN has no authority over the guy in the first place. It's not like they can fire him like an employer, cancel the contract or take away his phone like a parent might.

Yes, I agree with that. I was only agreeing with him on the general premise that a non-government actor can be authoritarian. Not that CNN was being authoritarian here.
 

Azuma Hazuki

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Rofl's actually right about this though (I'll take "sentences i never thought i'd type" for $800 please Alex...). CNN has decided to mud wrestle a pig and we all know how that ends: they get covered in mud and shit and the pig has the home turf advantage.
 

senseamp

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Rofl approves of threats to CNN families.
CNN reporters write under their own names, and it's not rocket surgery to find out their relatives and threaten them. But it would cede the moral high ground to CNN permanently. Also, threats of violence are actual crimes. If CNN tracked down this loser and made him their bitch over a gif, I would think long and hard about threatening them and risking giving them evidence thst can send you in jail.
 
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Younigue

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Seriously, is no one surprised that someone not CNN hasn't already released this guy's name? It could still happen. That's my point about playing with fire (or just using social media in general). Anonymity is all well and good unless some gets a hard-on to disrupt/ruin your life. No, I don't think CNN should release it. No, I don't think they should have bothered to track him down. Like it or not, Trump made him infamous... because the meme was there for the taking (created by HanAssholeSolo). He'll pay whatever price comes along with that. I hope it's not severe but if he is humiliated I can't say I care.

I've never done or said anything online I'm ashamed of. Even if someone showed me something I said or did that made me uncomfortable I'd own that sh*t because ultimately I'm a good person who intends to be a good person. It's not a complicated philosophy, any one can enjoy the choice really.

Words to live by: Behave in a manner befitting your sensibilities and ability to withstand scrutiny. Ta-Da!

*Note: His name would have been better if it was HanAssSolo <--- looks and sounds better.
 

Roflmouth

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CNN reporters write under their own names, and it's not rocket surgery to find out their relatives and threaten them.

Of course it's not "rocket surgery" because that isn't a thing.

But it would cede the moral high ground to CNN permanently.

Only in your fevered imagination.

Also, threats of violence are actual crimes. If CNN tracked down this loser and made him their bitch over a gif, I would think long and hard about threatening them and risking giving them evidence thst can send you in jail.

LOL, yeah, all those death threats and doxing occurring every second of the day on the internet are sure leading to massive arrests around the world.
 

Jhhnn

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CNN reporters write under their own names, and it's not rocket surgery to find out their relatives and threaten them. But it would cede the moral high ground to CNN permanently. Also, threats of violence are actual crimes. If CNN tracked down this loser and made him their bitch over a gif, I would think long and hard about threatening them and risking giving them evidence thst can send you in jail.

Linked previously-

http://washingtonjournal.com/2017/0...group-just-threatened-children-cnn-reporters/

Say hello to your fellow travelers, Trumpsters. Buncha swell guys, huh?
 

Younigue

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So this trend of "fake news" is also turning into calling people liars for disagreeing with them or for mis-speaking. The Trumpublicans really are trying to build "A (W)Hole New World" (the least they could do is sing it to us! Ugh, no one will ever be able to trust anyone ever again! Sounds like such a Douchey place to live! Yuck!
 

pmv

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Well what we do know is that Trump himself is beyond shame. Ordinary people are usually not. Read this guy's apology, where he claims not to be a racist. I would assume that he is not this overtly racist in real life. Maybe his wife doesn't even know he's this much of a pig. He doesn't want to be outed because he's embarrassed about what he wrote. He's faced with the prospect of owning his own words and this terrifies him. Trolls only flourish because of the anonymity of the internet.

I don't want anyone actually being outed, but if worrying over the possibility may make someone think twice before advocating genocide, then I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.

Are there not two parts to this?

The issue of whether internet trolls who post racist and otherwise abusive stuff, should lose their anonymity, is one thing. But surely when CNN started looking to find this guy they didn't know about that stuff, all they knew was he'd made that meme (which wasn't in remotely the same league as the other quotes that been reported). I'm just not sure what was their purpose when they made to track down the creator of that meme.

The other issue is once you know someone is posting really vile stuff anonymously, do you do what CNN did at that point and persuade them to stop doing so? I'm thinking that's a different question, and I think what they did in that respect is defensible. somewhat depending on how 'public' his comments were. It's just that why were they bothering to make such efforts to look into his behaviour in the first place?

I also don't actually agree that someone could post stuff like that and not be racist. Posting comments like that publicly, in a way that could influence others or cause pain to the targetted group, is a racist thing to do, ergo someone who does that is by definition a racist. Unless they are outright mentally unwell and really don't know what they are doing. In fact I'm starting to think that the 'just trolling' defence has become a preferred cover story. As far as I can see that's a bit of a distinctive characteristic of the 'alt right'.
 
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senseamp

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Of course it's not "rocket surgery" because that isn't a thing.
Only in your fevered imagination.
LOL, yeah, all those death threats and doxing occurring every second of the day on the internet are sure leading to massive arrests around the world.
HanAssholeSolo also thought he was untouchable behind his computer screen. CNN reached out and touched him, and he melted like a little snowflake that he was. I bet he cried like a little bitch and begged them to not reveal his identity.
 

Jhhnn

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Are there not two parts to this?

The issue of whether internet trolls who post racist and otherwise abusive stuff, should lose their anonymity, is one thing. But surely when CNN started looking to find this guy they didn't know about that stuff, all they knew was he'd made that meme (which wasn't in remotely the same league as the other quotes that been reported). I'm just not sure what was their purpose when they made to track down the creator of that meme.

The other issue is once you know someone is posting really vile stuff anonymously, do you do what CNN did at that point and persuade them to stop doing so? I'm thinking that's a different question, and I think what they did in that respect is defensible. somewhat depending on how 'public' his comments were. It's just that why were they bothering to make such efforts to look into his behaviour in the first place?

I also don't actually agree that someone could post stuff like that and not be racist. Posting comments like that publicly, in a way that could influence others or cause pain to the targetted group, is a racist thing to do, ergo someone who does that is by definition a racist. Unless they are outright mentally unwell and really don't know what they are doing. In fact I'm starting to think that the 'just trolling' defence has become a preferred cover story. As far as I can see that's a bit of a distinctive characteristic of the 'alt right'.

CNN set out to find the origin of the meme because Trump used it. It might have been something original cooked up just for him. When they found the origin they found a vile troll & decided to investigate further, ask the guy about it in real life. The rest unfolded from there.

Let's face it- it's a lot more fashionable to be an asshole on the internet than in real life & some people really get off wearing an asshole persona from the security of their keyboard. So Manly.
 

snoopy7548

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I haven't read all 15 pages, but did anyone else immediately think of Gerald Brovlofski from South Park when they read the story? Dude thinks it's funny to troll online but once he's caught, he gets all scared and apologetic. I bet he even puts on music and sips wine when he trolls late at night.

I think CNN's statement (his name will be kept secret as long as he sticks to his word) was out of line, but that shouldn't detract from the fact that the president of the United States retweeted a dumb meme which "attacks" the press. With all the shit currently going on, this was terrible judgement. It's one thing if a private citizen does it; it's a completely different thing if the president does it. Then again, I'd say pretty much everything Mr. Orange tweets is in poor taste and awful judgement. Just another tarnish on office he holds.

And this racist asshole was spewing his nonsense on a public forum. He should expect to be outed. How is that any different than CNN covering a public gathering where people are spewing racist crap? Just because you're sitting behind a screen doesn't mean you should expect to be shielded from everything you do online, especially when anyone (even non-registered users) can see what you are saying.
 
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Roflmouth

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I haven't read all 15 pages, but did anyone else immediately think of Gerald Brovlofski from South Park when they read the story? Dude thinks it's funny to troll online but once he's caught, he gets all scared and apologetic. I bet he even puts on music and sips wine when he trolls late at night.

I think CNN's statement (his name will be kept secret as long as he sticks to his word) was out of line, but that shouldn't detract from the fact that the president of the United States retweeted a dumb meme which "attacks" the press. With all the shit currently going on, this was terrible judgement. It's one thing if a private citizen does it; it's a completely different thing if the president does it. Then again, I'd say pretty much everything Mr. Orange tweets is in poor taste and awful judgement. Just another tarnish on office he holds.

And this racist asshole was spewing his nonsense on a public forum. He should expect to be outed.

No he shouldn't, but I respect your authoritarian bent. Watching the left become more illiberal every day is just one of the many glorious results of last year's election.
 

snoopy7548

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No he shouldn't, but I respect your authoritarian bent. Watching the left become more illiberal every day is just one of the many glorious results of last year's election.

You didn't quote my whole post! How can I attempt to craft an argument if you won't even factor in my last two sentences? I legitimately want to know if you think the parts you cut out were poorly thought out ramblings.
 

JSt0rm

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You didn't quote my whole post! How can I attempt to craft an argument if you won't even factor in my last two sentences? I legitimately want to know if you think the parts you cut out were poorly thought out ramblings.

he is a russian here to fuck with you.
 

Younigue

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No he shouldn't, but I respect your authoritarian bent. Watching the left become more illiberal every day is just one of the many glorious results of last year's election.

You are so full of bile. Antacid might help.
 

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CNN set out to find the origin of the meme because Trump used it. It might have been something original cooked up just for him. When they found the origin they found a vile troll & decided to investigate further, ask the guy about it in real life. The rest unfolded from there.

Let's face it- it's a lot more fashionable to be an asshole on the internet than in real life & some people really get off wearing an asshole persona from the security of their keyboard. So Manly.

Even our resident sensimillia farmer jhnhhnthrrtj feigns sympathy for multi billion dollar media conglomerates. It's happening!

No he shouldn't, but I respect your authoritarian bent. Watching the left become more illiberal every day is just one of the many glorious results of last year's election.

The left's metamorphosis in to humorless grumps is in it's final stage.
 
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Younigue

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Even our resident sensimillia farmer jhnhhnthrrtj feigns sympathy for multi billion dollar media conglomerates. It's happening!


The left's metamorphosis in to humorless grumps is in it's final stage.

Well it's your Ugly America you're looking to achieve. Seems irrational. But you should bask in liberals getting their comeuppance based solely on your smallness and ugliness. That America is going to be heinous and evil. Mirrors hate you, admit it.
 
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UglyCasanova

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HanAssholeSolo also thought he was untouchable behind his computer screen. CNN reached out and touched him, and he melted like a little snowflake that he was. I bet he cried like a little bitch and begged them to not reveal his identity.


You've used the term "little bitch" a few times in this thread already. It seems odd that you're trying to call out the guy for being racist etc when using something so derogatory towards women.
 
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