Yes, that was my point, thank you.
It's just kind of hurting my brain that CNN went this far on this particular issue.
I believe his point is CNN basically said apologize or we'll expose you.
I realize this is an over simplification
I'm tapping out of this thread, CNN acted stupidly, that and everything else is just a stupid distraction from the important stuff.
Given how irrational and grossly out of proportioned 'internet justice' can be I think the news organizations should take into consideration the potential blowback for the person who's information they post compared to that persons posted message\meme. I don't agree that 'post it, own it' means you should be prepared for a President and global news organization to put you in the middle of spat and subject you to the crazies online - unless there is a far better reason than this stupid gif
That is correct. They "doxxed" (found his personal information) him privately with a threat of releasing his information publicly if he recanted his apology online at any time.
Things get blurry under the guise of internet. On Facebook you usually have your name associated with what you post. People get fired due to statements about their employer, in family feuds due to petty interactions on there, ect. It's all stuff you have to own. But when you come to sites like this or Reddit there is some honor among thieves..for lack of better term. The anonymity does provide some protection and freedom of expression. You are free to say stuff. I'm free to ignore you, roast you, debate you in civility, whatever. But there is (or was) a moral code that you leave it at that and don't go out and persecute the person behind the user name. That just isn't the moral code we really signed on for when joining an online community.
Last I checked doxing is specifically the release of the information.
Last I checked doxing is specifically the release of the information.
You are right. Is there a term for privately doxxing somebody?
It still is a form of blackmail/bullying and low brow behavior by a news site that wants to be seen as professional.
I don't know of one, because it's a whole lot rarer to get the information and not publish it, and the real transgression is putting that information out in front of the internet hate machine, which by the law of large numbers basically means you're exposing that person to death threats and attempts on their employment.
Given how irrational and grossly out of proportioned 'internet justice' can be I think the news organizations should take into consideration the potential blowback for the person who's information they post compared to that persons posted message\meme. I don't agree that 'post it, own it' means you should be prepared for a President and global news organization to put you in the middle of spat and subject you to the crazies online - unless there is a far better reason than this stupid gif
I don't think I've ever even heard of it before, which is why I was so surprised that it was not only an article, but a front-page one at that. "We have this guy's information, but because he said sorry to us, we're not gonna release it". Seems so childish, especially over a photoshopped wrestling gif.
Internet hate machine is a good word for it. Man, people's lives get destroyed when news organizations do thoughtless actions. Remember that guy who had his old plumbing truck sold to ISIS? He started getting like 100 death threats a day. People were even contacting his kids, it was pretty awful.
https://www.pri.org/stories/2015-12-15/how-texas-plumbers-truck-wound-isis-hands
That is correct. They "doxxed" (found his personal information) him privately with a threat of releasing his information publicly if he recanted his apology online at any time.
Actually it was issued BEFORE CNN contacted him. I'm guessing something tipped him off that the heat was on. He put it out. Reddit deleted it shortly after.What is the point of suppressing one guy to not create anymore memes of CNN? Wouldn't this entice more people to produce similar memes?
Also, if you read the apology, seems it was written with specific guidance or just written by CNN.
That is correct. They "doxxed" (found his personal information) him privately with a threat of releasing his information publicly if he recanted his apology online at any time.
Trump didn't care about any of that. His use of the GIF merely states his intentions wrt the Free Media in general. Beat the shit out of them. Make them submit to his Will.
I believe his point is CNN basically said apologize or we'll expose you.
I realize this is an over simplification
I'm tapping out of this thread, CNN acted stupidly, that and everything else is just a stupid distraction from the important stuff.
Actually it was issued BEFORE CNN contacted him. I'm guessing something tipped him off that the heat was on. He put it out. Reddit deleted it shortly after.
For the the last time, CNN is not "free media" or a member of the free press. CNN lost their membership to those groups when it decided to collude with politicians to rig the election.
Where did they threaten to release his public information if he recanted his apology online at any time?
CNN is not publishing "HanA**holeSolo's" name because he is a private citizen who has issued an extensive statement of apology, showed his remorse by saying he has taken down all his offending posts, and because he said he is not going to repeat this ugly behavior on social media again. In addition, he said his statement could serve as an example to others not to do the same.
CNN reserves the right to publish his identity should any of that change.
Trump brings out the best in everybody, huh?
Maybe I'm misreading it, but from the CNN article:
http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/04/politics/kfile-reddit-user-trump-tweet/index.html
There is no evidence that CNN did more than try to contact him prior to his apology. He then called them & was interviewed.
Actually it was issued BEFORE CNN contacted him. I'm guessing something tipped him off that the heat was on. He put it out. Reddit deleted it shortly after.