CNN doxxes Reddit user over Trump wrestling gif

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woolfe9998

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What are they trying to deter others from doing? Making internet memes?

The media is under attack these days. I think they're trying to deter people from using violent rhetoric or memes which target the media. That's why they made this a front page story. It isn't really about this one person.
 
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Jimzz

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Not sure if it was said yet but CNN did not threaten him or make him do anything. They left him a message, he removed all his post, and then talked to CNN after that.

Then on top of that some alt-right racist are spreading a lie he is just some confused 15 year old kid. That is also false. There are post showing he's at least 37 and probably in his 40's.

Here are some of his post that were saved before he deleted them...
https://imgur.com/a/hfUAo
 

UglyCasanova

Lifer
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The media is under attack these days. I think they're trying to deter people from using violent rhetoric or memes which target the media. That's why they made this a front page story. It isn't really about this one person.


They are "under attack" for being untrustworthy and partisan rightly or wrongly, but this certainly doesn't help their case. Instilling fear in the public not to attack (in reality attack=criticize) you is no way to gain their trust. CNN shot themselves in the foot on this, some of you will simply defend anything.
 

xthetenth

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This. Meanwhile, CNN's parent organization, Time Warner, continues to sponsor "Shakespeare in the Park" where Donald Trump is assassinated every night. 'Cause reasons.
http://www.cnsnews.com/blog/gage-cohen/trump-assassination-play-still-funded-time-warner-taxpayers

Oh no, not a production of a play showing how futile political assassination is based on a story where the assassination plunged the Empire into a bloody civil war that didn't solve much at all, where the assassination itself is played as horrible!

I forgive you for this, since you are actually stupid enough to not understand themes.

The media is under attack these days. I think they're trying to deter people from using violent rhetoric or memes which target the media. That's why they made this a front page story. It isn't really about this one person.

Yeah. It's not helping, it looks like the right's finally realized that freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences just in time to plaster that slogan over a picture of a person getting thrown from a helicopter because Pinochet is a dude to emulate. I don't think they really get yet that the people who are really gunning for them are the lunatic fringe.



That's in response to this by the way:

 

woolfe9998

Lifer
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This. Meanwhile, CNN's parent organization, Time Warner, continues to sponsor "Shakespeare in the Park" where Donald Trump is assassinated every night. 'Cause reasons.
http://www.cnsnews.com/blog/gage-cohen/trump-assassination-play-still-funded-time-warner-taxpayers

On the plus side, CNN is much funnier than any sitcoms the networks produce, so at least this four years isn't a total loss.

Yeah, I'm sure Time Warner consulted CNN before funding Shakespeare in the Park, and all their other 100+ subsidiaries, including the Cartoon Network.

More to the point, here is a conservative publication reviewing a 2012 production of Caeser featuring a black Caeser which the article admits is a stand-in for Obama, and giving it a good review. No protests from the left over this IIRC.

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/shakesblog/obamas-ides-of-march/
 
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woolfe9998

Lifer
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They are "under attack" for being untrustworthy and partisan rightly or wrongly, but this certainly doesn't help their case. Instilling fear in the public not to attack (in reality attack=criticize) you is no way to gain their trust. CNN shot themselves in the foot on this, some of you will simply defend anything.

I would dispute their "untrustworthiness." I have my concerns about their coverage priorities, but I don't see any higher degree of inaccuracy in their reporting than in any other outlet, which is to say, they've been pretty accurate. A couple of retracted stories out of 1000's hardly changes that.

They aren't ever going to gain the "trust" of conservatives like the person who created that video unless they report the news the way it's reported on Fox or Breitbart. Conservatives don't "trust" anything which tells them a single thing they don't like. Ever.

Consequently, since it is literally impossible to ever gain their trust, deterring them from encouraging violence against the press seems rational to me.
 

pmv

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I don't understand what CNN thought was the value in finding the original creator. There are zillion memes out there, does anyone really care who originally created any of them? Surely the issue, insofar as there is an issue, is Trump choosing to tweet it?

And I am not sure about the 'inciting violence against journalists' bit. Dunno. In normal times I'd say that was daft, that it was just some sort of metaphor (and is wresting really 'violence'? Isn't it just a kind of carefully choreographed performance art - dancing for people who think dancing is unmanly?). But that Montana oddball bodyslamming a journalist puts it in a different light.

Main thing is that Trump tweeting that was just amazingly undignified. Like he's a teenager eating bowls of cereal in the Whitehouse basement. He'll be posting on here next, arguing about video cards.
 

woolfe9998

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I don't understand what CNN thought was the value in finding the original creator. There are zillion memes out there, does anyone really care who originally created any of them? Surely the issue, insofar as there is an issue, is Trump choosing to tweet it?

And I am not sure about the 'inciting violence against journalists' bit. Dunno. In normal times I'd say that was daft, that it was just some sort of metaphor (and is wresting really 'violence'? Isn't it just a kind of carefully choreographed performance art - dancing for people who think dancing is unmanly?). But that Montana oddball bodyslamming a journalist puts it in a different light.

Main thing is that Trump tweeting that was just amazingly undignified. Like he's a teenager eating bowls of cereal in the Whitehouse basement. He'll be posting on here next, arguing about video cards.

The entire point, as I said, was in deterring others from encouraging violence against the press. The reason this meme out of who knows how many was picked out was because it got national attention after Trump tweeted it. But this one person isn't really the point. Like you said, the fact that we are in a climate of such hostility toward the press puts the video and other things like it in a different light. CNN did this and put it on the front page to send a message.
 

Roflmouth

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They did it because it's easier to go after a reddit user than the President. And they're about to suffer horribly for it
 

senseamp

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If anything happens to a CNN reporter, it is going to be on Trump after he tweeted what he tweeted.
 

xthetenth

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They did it because it's easier to go after a reddit user than the President. And they're about to suffer horribly for it

I'm going to quote this for posterity. I'm giving pretty decent odds that you'll end up having supported something like what happened at Charlie Hebdo, or at the end of that earlier campaign of lies against Planned Parenthood.
 
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dainthomas

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They did it because it's easier to go after a reddit user than the President. And they're about to suffer horribly for it

Really? Going after this president is the lowest of low-hanging fruit. Hell, most of the time he's shooting himself in the foot so they don't actually have to do anything.
 

OrByte

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I don't like how CNN is handling being the target of such hostility towards media.

They dig themselves deeper. Treating this as a tit for tat. Not a good thing.
 

woolfe9998

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I don't like how CNN is handling being the target of such hostility towards media.

They dig themselves deeper. Treating this as a tit for tat. Not a good thing.

How would you handle "being the target of such hostility towards media"?
 

flexy

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he realized the gravity of the situation he was in

Can you elaborate on this "gravity of the situation"? Because I have seen and see TONS of such and very similar memes, often.

I must be on a different Internet than yours where a effing troll meme, regardless how stupid it is, is now a grave situation. CHEEZUS EFFING CHRIST.

The entire thing is bizarre beyond belief.

It's bizarre beyond belief since it was not a meme, say, depicting someone shooting Trump or similar. It is bizarre how CNN reacted and made this their TOp HEADLINE and then with this subtle thread even to release the name. (Seriously I couldn't even believe this). And it gets even more bizarre to read this type of well-worded apology from an internet troll. Nothing there makes ANY SENSE to me.
 

Jaskalas

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How about someone arguing for a woman's right to an abortion on an internet forum and those who have opposite views are able to find out they work for planned parenthood because their real identity is next to the comments, now that person has to watch their backs and continuously put up with death threats and being called baby killer,

How about an atheist who calls out someones religious beliefs and makes them look like a fool on line now receives death threats against themselves and family because he skewered someones sacred cow.

Or even more mundane than that, you might have activities or political beliefs that even though may not have anything to do with work might not by looked at kindly by upper management and the only thing that protects you from them is a pseudonym,

and let's not forget the reality that allows a women to be taken more seriously on most male dominated message boards because she doesn't post under her real name signifying that she is a female.

Thank you for a comprehensive guide as to why the First and Fourth amendments are directly connected.
Seems some posters wanted to dispute that.
 

jackstar7

Lifer
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Can you elaborate on this "gravity of the situation"? Because I have seen and see TONS of such and very similar memes, often.

I must be on a different Internet than yours where a effing troll meme, regardless how stupid it is, is now a grave situation. CHEEZUS EFFING CHRIST.

The entire thing is bizarre beyond belief.

It's bizarre beyond belief since it was not a meme, say, depicting someone shooting Trump or similar. It is bizarre how CNN reacted and made this their TOp HEADLINE and then with this subtle thread even to release the name. (Seriously I couldn't even believe this). And it gets even more bizarre to read this type of well-worded apology from an internet troll. Nothing there makes ANY SENSE to me.
It is an official statement from the White House.
 

jackstar7

Lifer
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Thank you for a comprehensive guide as to why the First and Fourth amendments are directly connected.
Seems some posters wanted to dispute that.
We're only protected from the government in both cases. Keep that in mind, too.

And there are people who will argue we have no right to privacy, since it is not enumerated in the text. I don't agree with them at all, but I certainly know they are out there.
 

Kaido

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Can you elaborate on this "gravity of the situation"? Because I have seen and see TONS of such and very similar memes, often.

Sure:

1. He posted a meme that could be depicted as advocating violence
2. The president himself tweeted out that meme to millions of readers
3. He specifically photoshopped CNN's logo into the meme
4. CNN dug up his personal contact information & threatened to release his name publicly
5. He is a middle-aged adult male with a family
6. He had a post history of racist & other offensive material

He didn't want his real name getting out into the wild.
 

Younigue

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Can you elaborate on this "gravity of the situation"? Because I have seen and see TONS of such and very similar memes, often.

I must be on a different Internet than yours where a effing troll meme, regardless how stupid it is, is now a grave situation. CHEEZUS EFFING CHRIST.

The entire thing is bizarre beyond belief.

It's bizarre beyond belief since it was not a meme, say, depicting someone shooting Trump or similar. It is bizarre how CNN reacted and made this their TOp HEADLINE and then with this subtle thread even to release the name. (Seriously I couldn't even believe this). And it gets even more bizarre to read this type of well-worded apology from an internet troll. Nothing there makes ANY SENSE to me.

It is tradition to make an example of someone to get a point across especially when things appear to be escalating and not just on the political front. Trump has definitely suggested abusing the news media is acceptable and anticipated. That's not ok. Just because he's getting away with being the douchiest of douches doesn't mean the American people shouldn't be held to a higher standard and they should want to be. People in general can not be allowed en masse to behave in such a foul manner as the Pig at the top does. There's just not enough binky's and security blankets to go around!
 
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