CNN Panel: Kanye West a "token negro" and "is what happens when negros don't read"

[fskimospy]

Does that deviate from a predictor of a standard Republican voter?
Could also say that, absent a bunch of old white guys, Trump would have lost.

Racism speaks to the motive for their vote. But surely you'd recognize that motive may not be singularity focused on any one issue, for any particular person, towards any particular candidate. Not sure how you think their motives are quantified.

Two things here:

1) you’re right that it’s difficult or maybe impossible to determine if racism makes someone vote for republicans or if being in republican circles just eventually makes you racist. I would argue it doesn’t really matter though because...

2) the analysis showed racism predicted a Trump voter even when controlling for other factors like being an old white guy. ie: between two white guys that make the same money, are the same age, live in the same place, etc, the one that reports greater racism is more likely to vote for Trump.

You could argue border security is racism, but when people fear "others" there is often a real underlying cause, such as economic fears. Trump sold the people on scapegoats to address economic woes, for policies such as trade wars and walls. I doubt you'd accuse them of hating Asians for wanting to attack China on trade.

The study used long established ways of measuring racial resentment that aren’t focused on policy issues. If you go back and read the paper you can see the details.

 

[FelixDeCat]

Ahh, now something with meat. OK let's revisit this after the election. "Lose badly" means Republicans substiantially gain in the House and Senate, simply because there's no other way to rationally interpret those words.

That being a given I wonder how you will spin any gains made as "lose badly"?

You have a point. When you have no power like the Democrats even winning reelection to your existing seats is a victory.

 

[dingster1]

No black people are paying any attention to Kanye these days except to shake our heads in disgust.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

You have a point. When you have no power like the Democrats even winning reelection to your existing seats is a victory.

If Dems did take over the House, that would be a big win, yes? If you feel secure that is impossible, that they lose ground then we will see if you are right in a few weeks.

 

[hal2kilo]

You must have gone to school and been taught some of that revised history by liberal teachers. There is no institution of slavery, but when there was, it was democrats. The slavery is that every major ghetto in America is run by liberal democrat politicians, who have made their constituents dependent on government services, hence, enslaving them, for their political motivations. Votes.

And here we go yet again!

 

[hal2kilo]

I did not say nothing has changed, I am saying today the Democrats are still, as they were in the past, the party of slavery and the minority on a plantation. "Nothing has changed" and my stance are two very different things.

You so saeth. Then it shall be. You have spoken.

 

[SlowSpyder]

You so saeth. Then it shall be. You have spoken.

I say it because that is what the evidence suggests.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

No black people are paying any attention to Kanye these days except to shake our heads in disgust.

Kanye is in some ways another Donald Trump. He's ignorant of the facts, wishes to be so and his ego is compatible with the absurd nature of Trump, but he is looked at as some genius, something to aspire to by too many. I don't care what the color of people may be but this nonsense hero worship does exist and it should end. He makes tunes people like. That's the sum total of his redeeming qualities. Trump can't even do that.

There's something wrong with people.

 

[hal2kilo]

Kid Rock was there too! Some serious intellectual firepower around that desk.

Only the best people. Do democrats get equal time. Sad! That was on, with split screen to the devastation of FL. Good combo. We see what's really important.

 

[Vic]

I say it because that is what the evidence suggests.

Except that no such evidence exists.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Except that no such evidence exists.

The Russian feminists are putting that together right now

 

[SP33Demon]

Funny how nobody in this thread even mentions Jim Brown and will go there. REAL RECOGNIZE REAL

 

[soundforbjt]

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Funny how nobody in this thread even mentions Jim Brown and will go there. REAL RECOGNIZE REAL

Did he even say a word?

 

[SP33Demon]

I just want someone who is arguing in favor of West being there to tell me what this did to help or advance anything other than his own profile. This was a reality show from the oval office. Nothing more. Someone explain who or what this helped.

It helped Trump's approval rating with black males. You think Jim Brown and Kanye is going to hurt? They are friggin' pillars of the black community and worshipped by most black males, if not one then the other.

 

[SP33Demon]

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Did he even say a word?

Of course he did.
http://www.tmz.com/2018/10/11/jim-brown-donald-trump-kanye-west/

Jim Brown has ZERO regrets about the Oval Office meeting today with Donald Trump and Kanye West ... saying it was an incredible opportunity and he's thankful to 45.

West has made headlines today about his behavior during the sit-down ... which included a couple classic Kanye rants, a heap of Trump praising and even a hug between the two men.

Brown was there too -- mostly silent -- making some wonder if he regretted making the trip. But, when the NFL great left the White House he told throngs of media that couldn't be further from the truth.

"We had the opportunity to meet with the President of the United States which everybody doesn't have that privilege. With me, at 82 years old, the only thing I could talk about was how to help other people. So, it was very positive."

Brown went on behalf of his Amer-I-Can foundation which helps inner-city youth develop life skills -- and he told everyone Trump was very good to the whole delegation.

"This is the President of the United States. He allowed me to be invited to his territory, he treated us beautifully, and he shared some thoughts, and he will be open to talking when I get back to him. That's the best he could do for me."

 

[cytg111]

Funny how nobody in this thread even mentions Jim Brown and will go there. REAL RECOGNIZE REAL

Cause he has access to him?
2:00 in .. what was that?

 

[Indus]

It helped Trump's approval rating with black males. You think Jim Brown and Kanye is going to hurt? They are friggin' pillars of the black community and worshipped by most black males, if not one then the other.

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[SP33Demon]

I wouldn't call Kanye as much a negro as an Uncle Tom. But he's being absolutely true to his nature in doing so and I wouldn't stop him for the world. He's despicable and up front about it.

Is Jim Brown an Uncle Tom too?

Cause he has access to him?
2:00 in .. what was that?

It shows how much he appreciates Trump. Slowly but sure black males will come over the to Trump/Yeezy/Jim Brown side. Let's bet that Trump's black male approval ratings go up next week.

 

[fskimospy]

Is Jim Brown an Uncle Tom too?

It shows how much he appreciates Trump. Slowly but sure black males will come over the to Trump/Yeezy/Jim Brown side. Let's bet that Trump's black male approval ratings go up next week.

It's pretty amusing how you've been declaring that Trump's approval among African-Americans has been going up for months now and yet as per the most recent polls it's at ~14-15%, which is basically exactly in line with his support on election day.

Funny how Trump approval is always going up but never actually gets up.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Lol, so you didn't actually watch it.

The wonder of modern communication, emailed talking points.

 

[Jhhnn]

Is Jim Brown an Uncle Tom too?

He just got hit in the head too many times. It does funny things to people.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Is Jim Brown an Uncle Tom too?

It shows how much he appreciates Trump. Slowly but sure black males will come over the to Trump/Yeezy/Jim Brown side. Let's bet that Trump's black male approval ratings go up next week.

Jim Brown can think anything he likes. He's more coherent than ConYAY, but real wages up?

Maybe for Kayne or Jim Brown, but for let's look at the average in real dollars.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LEU0252884600Q

Wages have been flat in inflation corrected dollars for 90% of the population or so, but in terms of blacks? The biggest jump was in 2015 and is trending down after Trump took office. So much for Brown's understanding and Fox's lies. But Jim likes that he can call Trump whenever he likes. You? He's piss on you as soon as look at you and most others. But Jim has his, the Red Phone number as it were to Trump and he's fine, fuck everyone else.

Jim Brown has been less relevant than Hillary and she lost. He has no real influence except to be shown off by Trump. Well that's what masters did with their slaves.

West? He's a screwed up person who should be held in low esteem.

 

[cytg111]

Is Jim Brown an Uncle Tom too?

- No he sounds like my right-winger-used-to-be friend. Totally lost upstairs.

Slowly but sure black males will come over the to Trump/Yeezy/Jim Brown side. Let's bet that Trump's black male approval ratings go up next week.

-Not in Georgia

 

[Indus]

Is Jim Brown an Uncle Tom too?

It shows how much he appreciates Trump. Slowly but sure black males will come over the to Trump/Yeezy/Jim Brown side. Let's bet that Trump's black male approval ratings go up next week.

Yeah sure..

Trump calls for nationwide 'stop-and-frisk' policy

I would do stop-and-frisk. I see what’s going on here, I see what’s going on in Chicago, I think stop-and-frisk. In New York City it was so incredible, the way it worked.
—Donald Trump

In 2011, the police stopped Black and Latino people 574,483 times and used physical force against them almost 130,000 times. “Physical force” includes pushing people to the ground, forcing them against a wall or a car, pointing guns at them, and using batons or pepper spray. The police reported using force in 23% of stops of Blacks and Latinos, but in only 16% of stops of Whites. And for what? The police found weapons—mostly knives—in about 1% of stops of Blacks and Latinos. They found weapons on Whites they stopped nearly twice as often.

 

[ch33zw1z]

^^ see? Who knew?