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fskimospy

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They were all card-carrying members of the War Party? The party that now feels threatened by Trump, and so are pumping the air waves with nonsense like the Russia garbage? Actually I feel like that has subsided at bit in the MIC, because we are no longer getting leaks from within the intelligence community undermining Trump. Maybe they reached a truce, they get a war with Iran and he gets left alone.

Real enough that the mainstream media felt the need to attack to delegitimize it before it grew legs. And real enough that some random monkeys posting on a random tech board know what it is...

Social media as authority as exactly the delusion of the radical Left and the media. They think normal Americans buy their nonsense narratives because "look at all these retweets by celebrities and "serious people"'. That delusion lost them election in 2016, put them in a box in the Russia story, and will lose them 2020 because it's only the War Party and their dimwitted sheep that believe their nonsense.

The Rust Belt decided the election. They all voted for the change candidate in 2008, remember? (So did I) He turned out to be an empty suited puppet that didn't improve their lives or outlook of the future, so they voted for the next change candidate in 2016. Nothing to do with race. Until the Left and the media get this REALITY through their thick damn skulls, they will continue to lose elections. Jettison the racist/sexist namecalling and open your eyes.

You must be extremely out of touch with what's happening at campuses all over the US, because that is EXACTLY what the radical Left is saying.

It sounds like you’re trapped in a bubble and you need to open your eyes. Racism and racial resentment was a strong predictor of voting for Trump.

I know you don’t want it to be true, but unfortunately it is. Is it really that surprising though? Trump was the most openly racist candidate in most people’s lifetimes. Of course racists voted for him.

https://www.cambridge.org/core/jour...t-sentiments/537A8ABA46783791BFF4E2E36B90C0BE

Based on a sample of the 2016 Cooperative Congressional Election Survey, our analyses suggest that a Trump vote cannot be explained by a lack of trust in politics or low levels of satisfaction with democracy, as would be assumed given the extant literature on protest voting. However, indicators of racist resentment and anti-immigrant sentiments proved to be important determinants of a Trump vote—even when controlling for more traditional vote-choice determinants.
 

SlowSpyder

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The plantation owners don't know how to react when their saves start revolting. Happy to see minorities are starting to see through the leftist bullshit.
 

Commodus

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Kanye West supports Donald Trump and gets harassed and bullied. If he supported Clinton or Sanders then all the media outlets would be praising what a great guy he is for lending his time to the democratic process.

But he isn't supporting Clinton or Sanders, so deal with it. Then again, asking you to deal with the present day reality is a stretch given your Clinton fetish.
 

Atreus21

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I'm sure you aren't so fucking stupid to believe that the only options for black people is to be a Republican or a Democrat right? I'm sure you aren't such a gigantic dumb ass that you think blacks area only allowed to be represented by only those two options, right? Please tell us

Dude, what are you 15? Jesus Christ.

It's no secret to anyone (above 15) that blacks overwhelmingly tend to support democrats. Election after election shows Democrat support among blacks to be around 90ish%. No other demographic comes close to that much devotion to a single party.
 
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Atreus21

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The plantation owners don't know how to react when their saves start revolting. Happy to see minorities are starting to see through the leftist bullshit.

I don't begrudge blacks for supporting the party that they think best represents their interests. But democrats need to stop acting like pod people when blacks freely decide not to support them.
 

ivwshane

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Kanye West supports Donald Trump and gets harassed and bullied. If he supported Clinton or Sanders then all the media outlets would be praising what a great guy he is for lending his time to the democratic process.

You mean like how Taylor swift is getting shit for her endorsement?

Yeah, fuck off hypocrite.
 
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ivwshane

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Dude, what are you 15? Jesus Christ.

It's no secret to anyone (above 15) that blacks overwhelmingly tend to support democrats. Election after election shows Democrat support among blacks to be around 90ish%. No other demographic comes close to that much devotion to a single party.

And that has what to do with your original comment? Oh I get it, you think it's because Kanye doesn't support Democrats.

Fucking idiot.
 

BrandonT

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It sounds like you’re trapped in a bubble and you need to open your eyes. Racism and racial resentment was a strong predictor of voting for Trump.

I know you don’t want it to be true, but unfortunately it is. Is it really that surprising though? Trump was the most openly racist candidate in most people’s lifetimes. Of course racists voted for him.

https://www.cambridge.org/core/jour...t-sentiments/537A8ABA46783791BFF4E2E36B90C0BE

So the states that mattered - the Rust Belt - suddenly became racist AFTER voting for Obama in '08? Come on man.
 

soundforbjt

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So the states that mattered - the Rust Belt - suddenly became racist AFTER voting for Obama in '08? Come on man.
All 80,000 of them, across three states were duped by a con man.
Combine that with a low turnout was what gave Trump those states.
Racism had little to do with the rust belt, it was elsewhere that did, think further south..
 

Jhhnn

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So the states that mattered - the Rust Belt - suddenly became racist AFTER voting for Obama in '08? Come on man.

Every white racist in America crawled out of their hole to vote for Trump. Many years they just stay home. Lots of other people voted for him despite it, as well. Spreading the FUD about Clinton suppressed Lib turnout at the same time so here we are...
 

SlowSpyder

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You mean like how Taylor swift is getting shit for her endorsement?

Yeah, fuck off hypocrite.


Taylor Swift was given a whole awards show to pander for Democratic votes, no one cared. Kanye wears a MAGA hat and is asked to take it off.
 

SlowSpyder

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I don't begrudge blacks for supporting the party that they think best represents their interests. But democrats need to stop acting like pod people when blacks freely decide not to support them.

I too can see how the Democrats appealed to many African Americans. But it is silly that it is actually news if a black celeb openly endorses a Republican. And the leftists in power don't care for that, not those in the media or Hollywood.
 

fskimospy

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So the states that mattered - the Rust Belt - suddenly became racist AFTER voting for Obama in '08? Come on man.

The electorate was not the same in 2016 as it was in 2008.

Regardless, empirical evidence indicates that racism played a significant part in predicting a Trump vote.
 

ivwshane

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Taylor Swift was given a whole awards show to pander for Democratic votes, no one cared. Kanye wears a MAGA hat and is asked to take it off.

He was asked by his friends.

I have no idea what you are talking about with regards to Taylor swift unless reward shows are now part of the leftist cabal.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment...annot-support-marsha-blackburn-003239061.html

You must really love the taste of trumps balls because you seem to have them in your mouth every chance you get.
 

Vic

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The racists and the "War Party" openly back Trump, anyone with eyes and a brain can see this happening, from "Heil Trump!" at Charlottesville to peaceful protesters are "sonsabitches who hate our troops!" but the resident Trumpbots keep insisting otherwise. Too weird. You have to wonder who they think they're fooling. Or if they think at all.
 

Vic

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I too can see how the Democrats appealed to many African Americans. But it is silly that it is actually news if a black celeb openly endorses a Republican. And the leftists in power don't care for that, not those in the media or Hollywood.
It's only news because Republicans are making it news. See the OP. See the partisan affiliation of the person who made the "token negro" comment. See the fact that Trump brought him into the Oval Office insisting on great publicity. See every Republican insist that everyone notice. The markets dump more than 5% in 2 days and the only thing the Trump crowd wants everyone to see is that some black celebrity is voting Trump. That's why it's news.
 

Jaskalas

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Yes, modern Democrats are trying to keep minorities enslaved and "on a planation" by constantly pushing for equal rights and diversity. That makes so much sense.

It's a Republican talking point to believe that helping people is "keep them down" on a "plantation".
Social... security? HOW DARE YOU?!
 

BrandonT

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All 80,000 of them, across three states were duped by a con man.
Combine that with a low turnout was what gave Trump those states.
Racism had little to do with the rust belt, it was elsewhere that did, think further south..

Well now that is something we can agree on. Trump is a con man. There is some racism in the South and so they voted Republican (as always so not meaningful to swinging the election). Racism did not determine the election.

Spreading the FUD about Clinton suppressed Lib turnout at the same time so here we are...

I would suggest Clinton buried herself, the breakpoint being the outing of collusion within DNC leadership and the media to railroad Bernie.

The electorate was not the same in 2016 as it was in 2008.

Quantify that. Tell me how it was meaningful to the result. Otherwise it is just a baseless claim. Like all that supposed fake news that attacked Clinton was to blame, yet not one article I read could point to a fake news piece that was in any way meaningful to the outcome. Some articles even said as much after listing a whole bunch of crazy stories as examples!

The racists and the "War Party" openly back Trump, anyone with eyes and a brain can see this happening, from "Heil Trump!" at Charlottesville to peaceful protesters are "sonsabitches who hate our troops!" but the resident Trumpbots keep insisting otherwise. Too weird. You have to wonder who they think they're fooling. Or if they think at all.

I think you're confused on what the War Party is. It is the Bipartisan group that holds a NeoCon foreign policy and a NeoLib economic policy. They've run the nation for decades now and gutted the middle class and mobility of the lower classes around the world, and set half of it on fire. That's why you had former Republican CIA directors and similar attacking Trump. They were most definitely not on his side. Now Clinton, there was a girl that would sell every American down the road for 20 silvers and never met a darkie she wouldn't drone. Obama too. Although I will give him credit for apparently being the only sane person keeping us from jumping into Syria.

You know it's amazing that the failure of those two policies of the War Party and their corruption (drain the swamp) were really the 3 issues that propelled people not just on the right, but center and left to vote Trump. All three issues used to be Democratic/Liberal issues. Oh how times have changed. Liberals today don't even know what a Liberal is. Certainly they've never heard or read Jefferson, Locke, or JS Mill. At least the Libertarians keep some of that alive.
 

fskimospy

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Quantify that. Tell me how it was meaningful to the result. Otherwise it is just a baseless claim.

Are you being serious right now? It is self evidently true because a lot of the people who voted in 2016 weren’t 18 in 2008 and a bunch who were 18 are now dead.

Regardless, it’s pretty obvious the electorate changed.



Like all that supposed fake news that attacked Clinton was to blame, yet not one article I read could point to a fake news piece that was in any way meaningful to the outcome. Some articles even said as much after listing a whole bunch of crazy stories as examples!

I think you misunderstand. It wouldn’t be possible to empirically isolate a particular news story so what you’re asking for is an impossible standard.

I have to say though that when I DID show you empirical evidence you just ignored it. Why would this be different? Are you willing to revise your claim that racism played no part? If not, what empirical evidence will you be offering to support your position?
 

Vic

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Well now that is something we can agree on. Trump is a con man. There is some racism in the South and so they voted Republican (as always so not meaningful to swinging the election). Racism did not determine the election.



I would suggest Clinton buried herself, the breakpoint being the outing of collusion within DNC leadership and the media to railroad Bernie.



Quantify that. Tell me how it was meaningful to the result. Otherwise it is just a baseless claim. Like all that supposed fake news that attacked Clinton was to blame, yet not one article I read could point to a fake news piece that was in any way meaningful to the outcome. Some articles even said as much after listing a whole bunch of crazy stories as examples!



I think you're confused on what the War Party is. It is the Bipartisan group that holds a NeoCon foreign policy and a NeoLib economic policy. They've run the nation for decades now and gutted the middle class and mobility of the lower classes around the world, and set half of it on fire. That's why you had former Republican CIA directors and similar attacking Trump. They were most definitely not on his side. Now Clinton, there was a girl that would sell every American down the road for 20 silvers and never met a darkie she wouldn't drone. Obama too. Although I will give him credit for apparently being the only sane person keeping us from jumping into Syria.

You know it's amazing that the failure of those two policies of the War Party and their corruption (drain the swamp) were really the 3 issues that propelled people not just on the right, but center and left to vote Trump. All three issues used to be Democratic/Liberal issues. Oh how times have changed. Liberals today don't even know what a Liberal is. Certainly they've never heard or read Jefferson, Locke, or JS Mill. At least the Libertarians keep some of that alive.
If Trump isn't part of the War Party then why does he keep increasing military spending? Why does he keep troops on the ground in several different countries? Why does he pander to various military and defense industry groups? Why are his staunchest supporters those 'conservatives' who constantly claim that if you don't support fighting endless and expensive foreign wars, then that means you must hate our troops and America? Why does Trump say exactly that on a regular basis? Why is Trump still gutting the middle class and still setting half the world on fire, with no hint of stopping?

I am a classical liberal who has read and cherishes Jefferson, Locke, and Mill. You're just full of shit. Self-serving liars like you are the reason I stopped calling myself a libertarian.
 
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fskimospy

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If Trump isn't part of the War Party then why does he keep increasing military spending? Why does he keep troops on the ground in several different countries? Why does he pander to various military and defense industry grounds? Why are his staunchest supporters those 'conservatives' who constantly claim that if you don't support fighting endless and expensive foreign wars, then that means you must hate our troops and America? Why is Trump still gutting the middle class and still setting half the world on fire, with no hint of stopping?

I am classical liberal who has read and cherishes Jefferson, Locke, and Mill. You're just full of shit. Self-serving liars like you are the reason I stopped calling myself a libertarian.

Trump also had to be talked out of invading Venezuela so there’s that.
 
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