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Blackjack200

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I dont understand using Carlys business background as something to be proud. She oversaw a disastrous merger with Compaq. Anybody who followed the computing industry knew that was going to end badly, and it did.

propaganda for Carly has started in the media last night.. Media is so completely bought.. The nexus between politicians and the media is just insufferable

I totally agree. It's bizarre and I'm not sure why the media is pushing the narrative of her emergance so hard.

The cognitive dissonance required to say that you're going to get rid of "activist judges" and replace them with people who agree with you about abortion and gun control could probably be harnessed as a new form of alternative energy.

:thumbsup:
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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Yeah, kind of like our community organizer? We've seen how that kind of "experience" translated into likely the worst president in the history of that country. Trump couldn't possibly be worse.

By what measurement?
 

bshole

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I dont understand using Carlys business background as something to be proud. She oversaw a disastrous merger with Compaq. Anybody who followed the computing industry knew that was going to end badly, and it did.

The ONLY way I will ever vote in this election cycle is if this souless bitch on the ballot.... to vote for anybody against her. I shudder to think of her ever getting the reins of power. Unfortunately, I believe this last debate probably guaranteed her a cabinet position at the least if the Republicans win the next election. It is a disgrace and a scandal that a woman who embraced the exportation of highly skilled and highly compensated professional jobs overseas should even be considered. I would take Donald Trump long before I could countenance the Medusa of Ultimate Evil (Carly Fiorina). I have loathed her since her idiotic and ill-fated HP days. There is a reason that no other company has wanted her since her failure..... SHE IS A TOXIC NARCISSIST WHO CARES ONLY ABOUT HER OWN PERSONAL ENRICHMENT AND POWER.... and FUCK everybody else.
 

cirrrocco

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The ONLY way I will ever vote in this election cycle is if this souless bitch on the ballot.... to vote for anybody against her. I shudder to think of her ever getting the reins of power. Unfortunately, I believe this last debate probably guaranteed her a cabinet position at the least if the Republicans win the next election. It is a disgrace and a scandal that a woman who embraced the exportation of highly skilled and highly compensated professional jobs overseas should even be considered. I would take Donald Trump long before I could countenance the Medusa of Ultimate Evil (Carly Fiorina). I have loathed her since her idiotic and ill-fated HP days. There is a reason that no other company has wanted her since her failure..... SHE IS A TOXIC NARCISSIST WHO CARES ONLY ABOUT HER OWN PERSONAL ENRICHMENT AND POWER.... and FUCK everybody else.

and this bitch made 30MM golden parachute.WTF

to layoff 55,000 ppl. Insanity
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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I don't know if I agree with your level of hate but one has to wonder what the thought process is for someone to lose a senate race and then decide they should run for president.


The ONLY way I will ever vote in this election cycle is if this souless bitch on the ballot.... to vote for anybody against her. I shudder to think of her ever getting the reins of power. Unfortunately, I believe this last debate probably guaranteed her a cabinet position at the least if the Republicans win the next election. It is a disgrace and a scandal that a woman who embraced the exportation of highly skilled and highly compensated professional jobs overseas should even be considered. I would take Donald Trump long before I could countenance the Medusa of Ultimate Evil (Carly Fiorina). I have loathed her since her idiotic and ill-fated HP days. There is a reason that no other company has wanted her since her failure..... SHE IS A TOXIC NARCISSIST WHO CARES ONLY ABOUT HER OWN PERSONAL ENRICHMENT AND POWER.... and FUCK everybody else.
 

kage69

Lifer
Jul 17, 2003
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Black republican nominee is like Iran electing a jewish person from Israel for president. Not gonna happen. 2016 will just be your BUSH III vs CLINTON II event.

Carson? Yeah, not gonna happen.

Wayne LaPierre said that 'we don't need anymore demographically significant presidents,' - pretty sure he wasn't talking about Obama's education in constitutional law.

I think the forces that be within the GOP will probably find a way to stuff Trump, but on the other side? It's not a sure thing for Hillary IMO, Bernie is capitalizing and benefiting from the disgust of classic, institutional politicians more than anyone. A lot can change in a year though
 
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Carson? Yeah, not gonna happen.

Wayne LaPierre said that 'we don't need anymore demographically significant presidents,' - pretty sure he wasn't talking about Obama's education in constitutional law.

I think the forces that be within the GOP will probably find a way to stuff Trump, but on the other side? It's not a sure thing for Hillary IMO, Bernie is capitalizing and benefiting from the disgust of classic, institutional politicians more than anyone. A lot can change in a year though

Wayne LaPierre does not represent all Republicans any more than Al Sharpton represents all Democrats.
 

bshole

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I don't know if I agree with your level of hate but one has to wonder what the thought process is for someone to lose a senate race and then decide they should run for president.


Dude, this is the one thing that unites the engineers in my department. We have democrats, republicans and independents and every one of them loathes Carly. It would be impossible for any engineer to view Carly without venom, hatred and disdain.... simply impossible.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
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Dude, this is the one thing that unites the engineers in my department. We have democrats, republicans and independents and every one of them loathes Carly. It would be impossible for any engineer to view Carly without venom, hatred and disdain.... simply impossible.

Hey, I didn't say your hate wasn't justified, I just said I don't think I agree with it.
 

Strk

Lifer
Nov 23, 2003
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The more I hear Mike Huckabee speak, the more angry he makes me. He's such a flaming hypocrite and he seems to have absolutely no idea. The cognitive dissonance required to say that you're going to get rid of "activist judges" and replace them with people who agree with you about abortion and gun control could probably be harnessed as a new form of alternative energy. And in 239 years of American history, who's the best woman to represent America on currency? Why it's Mike Huckabee's wife! GOOD ANSWER "DUCK HUNTER." What a colossal moron.

I did love Rand Paul pointing out the utter hypocrisy of everyone on the stage adamantly praising the 10th Amendment to keep liberals out of State's rights issues, then immediately turning around and saying they'd use the Federal government to enforce marijuana laws. What a bunch of pandering jackaninnies.

Yeah, and the joke is that he didn't say he is for completely legal pot, just leaving it up to the states and stop the schedule 1 status.
 

fskimospy

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I also enjoyed Jeb saying that GWB "kept us safe" as if 9/11 didn't happen on his watch.
 

PokerGuy

Lifer
Jul 2, 2005
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You're mistaking "president I don't like" with 'likely the worst president in the history of that country'.

You're mistaking "president I like" with "good president". Pretty much everything he's done while in office is to the detriment of the country. Very few presidents have been bad enough to accomplish that, and nobody in modern history has done more to divide the country (along racial lines, political lines, economic lines) than he has. Quite a feat.

It's very telling though how you left off his previous experience as a professor, a litigator in private practice, a state senator, and a US senator, to mention a few, and only mentioned his first job.
Oh yeah, those few months as a senator going on fundraising trips surely got a whole bunch of experience. Can you list some of his accomplishments from then? A litigator... whoohoo... just what we need more of, lawyers. Amazing how someone with such a lousy grasp of constitutional law (his idea of constitutional law is basically "whatever I want to do is constitutional") could have become a professor. I guess that just shows even some of the best schools screw up sometimes.

I wonder if someone described your experience for your current position as 'fry guy at McDonalds' or whatever if you would think that was an accurate or deliberately dishonest framing of your work experience? Any thoughts?
If that was basically my best qualification, then what's the problem?
 

kage69

Lifer
Jul 17, 2003
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Wayne LaPierre does not represent all Republicans any more than Al Sharpton represents all Democrats.

As head of the NRA, he wields more influence than he probably should, and is in no way comparable to Sharpton. GOP is full of single issue voters, and LaPierre is frontman for one of the biggest of those issues. Sorry.
 
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You're mistaking "president I like" with "good president". Pretty much everything he's done while in office is to the detriment of the country. Very few presidents have been bad enough to accomplish that, and nobody in modern history has done more to divide the country (along racial lines, political lines, economic lines) than he has. Quite a feat.

Oh yeah, those few months as a senator going on fundraising trips surely got a whole bunch of experience. Can you list some of his accomplishments from then? A litigator... whoohoo... just what we need more of, lawyers. Amazing how someone with such a lousy grasp of constitutional law (his idea of constitutional law is basically "whatever I want to do is constitutional") could have become a professor. I guess that just shows even some of the best schools screw up sometimes.

If that was basically my best qualification, then what's the problem?

You're right, it was Obama who said that he would vote against EVERYTHING congress put in front of him... oh wait, that was the obstructionist gop party. The party of "no".
All of this derisive behavior stems from Obama being unwilling to work with... wait... nope that was the gop again.
Your hackery is clearly showing
 

ultimatebob

Lifer
Jul 1, 2001
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No mention of medical care alternatives, education costs, or ridiculous inequality.

Of course. It seems that all Republicans hate Obamacare, but have no idea on how to fix it. When you ask them, all you get is some generalized whining about tort reform.

Not that tort reform is a bad idea, but I doubt that it will ever happen. Lawyers make big campaign contributions to both sides.
 

fskimospy

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Mar 10, 2006
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You're mistaking "president I like" with "good president". Pretty much everything he's done while in office is to the detriment of the country. Very few presidents have been bad enough to accomplish that, and nobody in modern history has done more to divide the country (along racial lines, political lines, economic lines) than he has. Quite a feat.

Haha, I'm explicitly not doing that. I find him to be a good president, and I imagine that objective measures will find him that way as well. Only time will tell though.

I hope you realize that your thought that 'pretty much everything he's done is to the detriment of the country' is heavily influenced by your extreme partisanship, right? I think he's done good things and bad things, but more good than bad. You say... all bad.

Do you think that's actually very likely, or is the more likely answer that you're unable to evaluate him objectively because you're too invested in hating the opposing political sports team?

Oh yeah, those few months as a senator going on fundraising trips surely got a whole bunch of experience. Can you list some of his accomplishments from then?

You mean 3 years as a US Senator and seven years in the state senate. By my count that's about 120 months (EDIT: I can't count!). Is that what you call 'a few'? Like when you say I'm going down to the shore for 'a few' days, do you mean 4 months? If not, your portrayal of his legislative career is highly dishonest. If so, you have a really weird concept of time.

Also, what do you mean about accomplishments? Legislation he voted for, authored, what? (I'll be interested to know, considering you appear to dislike Congress passing too many laws, etc.)

A litigator... whoohoo... just what we need more of, lawyers. Amazing how someone with such a lousy grasp of constitutional law (his idea of constitutional law is basically "whatever I want to do is constitutional") could have become a professor. I guess that just shows even some of the best schools screw up sometimes.

Or it shows that he was successful in two highly competitive fields that you neglected to mention so that you could rant about how he was just a community organizer.

If that was basically my best qualification, then what's the problem?

It might be yours, but it's not his by any reasonably objective evaluation. All this does is make you look like a rabid ideologue.
 
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ivwshane

Lifer
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You're mistaking "president I like" with "good president". Pretty much everything he's done while in office is to the detriment of the country. Very few presidents have been bad enough to accomplish that, and nobody in modern history has done more to divide the country (along racial lines, political lines, economic lines) than he has. Quite a feat.

Oh yeah, those few months as a senator going on fundraising trips surely got a whole bunch of experience. Can you list some of his accomplishments from then? A litigator... whoohoo... just what we need more of, lawyers. Amazing how someone with such a lousy grasp of constitutional law (his idea of constitutional law is basically "whatever I want to do is constitutional") could have become a professor. I guess that just shows even some of the best schools screw up sometimes.

If that was basically my best qualification, then what's the problem?

I'll take three examples of what he's done that have been detrimental to the country.
 

CitizenKain

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Jul 6, 2000
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You're mistaking "president I like" with "good president". Pretty much everything he's done while in office is to the detriment of the country. Very few presidents have been bad enough to accomplish that, and nobody in modern history has done more to divide the country (along racial lines, political lines, economic lines) than he has. Quite a feat.

It is funny that its somehow Obama's fault that the rightwing has spent decades courting racists for votes. Also the same people that don't believe he's a US citizen. All the problems with division in this country have come from the right simply because they are mad a black guy is in office and giving orders.
 

Strk

Lifer
Nov 23, 2003
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You're right, it was Obama who said that he would vote against EVERYTHING congress put in front of him... oh wait, that was the obstructionist gop party. The party of "no".
All of this derisive behavior stems from Obama being unwilling to work with... wait... nope that was the gop again.
Your hackery is clearly showing

One of Obama's biggest problems was that he actually thought they might be willing to work with them
 

Hugo Drax

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I suspect we have reached peak Trump and now his poll numbers will stagnate and eventually collapse, leading the way for Jeb Bush being president in 2016
 
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