CNN: Trump lied to anchors about immigration to get ‘positive press coverage’ in run-up to speech

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Jhhnn

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I take people at their word. If you don't mean it, don't write it

Is that you, Buckshot?

Trump tweaked their headsets, caused them to see him in a more favorable light if only for awhile. That colored their coverage leading up to the speech.

Either Trump's game is way over your head or you're just shilling for him.
 

PokerGuy

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So just because he didn't mention a path in his address it means that he's not open to that as a possibility? Is that your point?

Excactly. So basically he (or one of his minions) said something to the press about a possible path to citizenship. He said nothing about that path in his speech, but also didn't say there would not be one.

This is an issue...... how?

Oh, I know, it's an issue if you're CNN or media matter or some other lefty fake news outlet flailing trying to attack Trump
 

Sea Ray

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Is that you, Buckshot?

Trump tweaked their headsets, caused them to see him in a more favorable light if only for awhile. That colored their coverage leading up to the speech.

Either Trump's game is way over your head or you're just shilling for him.

You can't even articulate the lie. Just because he didn't include that point in his address doesn't make it a lie. Trump is a negotiator. This fact may eventually tick off the far right but I do think a path to legal status is not only a possibility under Trump, it's likely. I don't see immigration reform happening without it.
 

Sea Ray

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Excactly. So basically he (or one of his minions) said something to the press about a possible path to citizenship. He said nothing about that path in his speech, but also didn't say there would not be one.

This is an issue...... how?

Oh, I know, it's an issue if you're CNN or media matter or some other lefty fake news outlet flailing trying to attack Trump

You get it. Why is this so tough?

I'll be the first to admit that Trump has said that things that are not true in the past but this isn't one of them. Everytime liberals make a mountain out of a molehill like this they lose credibility. Do they know that? It shows me that they're struggling to find dirt on Trump right now.
 

Thebobo

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So just because he didn't mention a path in his address it means that he's not open to that as a possibility? Is that your point?

He didn't say he wasn't going to first strike russia either at the speech. So we are to assume by your logic he could be open to the possibility of first striking russia?
 

PokerGuy

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He didn't say he wasn't going to first strike russia either at the speech. So we are to assume by your logic he could be open to the possibility of first striking russia?

So you're saying we should assume that anything not specifically talked about in his speech is non-existent?

Do you guys even think about this nonsense before you hop on the faux outrage bandwagon?
 

Sea Ray

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He didn't say he wasn't going to first strike russia either at the speech. So we are to assume by your logic he could be open to the possibility of first striking russia?
Do you really want to play this game? He didn't say that he's a gay pedophile who enjoys little boys and dresses in drag on the weekends. So should we assume that he's open to that possibility too?

This is nuts
 

thraashman

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Do you really want to play this game? He didn't say that he's a gay pedophile who enjoys little boys and dresses in drag on the weekends. So should we assume that he's open to that possibility too?

This is nuts
However he's also never said that. He did say something in an interview that he then left out when making a speech on the same topic, so it definitely appears like he's trying to talk out of both sides of his mouth (which I guess is an improvement over his normally spewing stuff from his asshole).
 

Sea Ray

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However he's also never said that. He did say something in an interview that he then left out when making a speech on the same topic, so it definitely appears like he's trying to talk out of both sides of his mouth (which I guess is an improvement over his normally spewing stuff from his asshole).

He probably had his reasons for leaving it out of his speech. Did he promise to include that in his speech? If not then there's no story here
 

Jhhnn

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You can't even articulate the lie. Just because he didn't include that point in his address doesn't make it a lie. Trump is a negotiator. This fact may eventually tick off the far right but I do think a path to legal status is not only a possibility under Trump, it's likely. I don't see immigration reform happening without it.

I didn't say he lied. I said he messed with their minds, gave them false hopes which affected their pre-speech coverage. He didn't have to lie to engage in deception.
 

Younigue

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He probably had his reasons for leaving it out of his speech. Did he promise to include that in his speech? If not then there's no story here
It was a rather big point to make then neglect to mention in his speech. I'll go ahead and assume you agree.
 
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1. President Trump did not lie to CNN anchors.
2. He did mention aspects of immigration in his speech.
3. Just another example of CNN fake news and a topic title that is a lie.
 

Sea Ray

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I didn't say he lied. I said he messed with their minds, gave them false hopes which affected their pre-speech coverage. He didn't have to lie to engage in deception.

So you disagree with the title of this thread? Fair enough. I hadn't heard you state your disagreement with the term "lied".
 

Sea Ray

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It was a rather big point to make then neglect to mention in his speech. I'll go ahead and assume you agree.

I have no problem with him not mentioning compromises he'd consider in his speech. That's what negotiation is for.
 

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I have no problem with him not mentioning compromises he'd consider in his speech. That's what negotiation is for.
Given the subject matter, anything he says on the subject will be scrutinised and hold great expectation for follow through. You know this. He knew it. Minimizing it doesn't work in this instance. Again, I'll assume you agree.
 

Thebobo

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I have no problem with him not mentioning compromises he'd consider in his speech. That's what negotiation is for.

Bullshit, Negotiation with what? Its was deception, lie, whatever you want to fucking call it. Stop being so touchytrumpy.
 

Sea Ray

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Bullshit, Negotiation with what? Its was deception, lie, whatever you want to fucking call it. Stop being so touchytrumpy.

Negotiation on a comprehensive immigration bill. That's ultimately what's needed to settle this.
 
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