Co-worker arrested

[DougK62]

She is quite the looker.

 

[eakers]

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: eakers
or, you could get her help for her addiction.

That's all nice and all, but is it the employer's responsibility to get her help? no.

hey i am just saying..

if it was me i would have fired her for doing drugs during work in the first place. same if someone was caught drinking in the bathroom.

 

[Ronstang]

Originally posted by: eakers
or, you could get her help for her addiction.

Not their responsibility. People with substance abuse problems need to be thrown away by society so they can learn the true costs of their problem and choose to either get clean or perish. Holding their hands and telling them the PC POV that it is not their fault is a bunch of BS. Almost every person I have ever known with a problem that got help eventually CHOSE to let the monkey on their back once more. I no longer have sympathy for people who chose to be self destructive.

 

[Gulzakar]

I beleive if she goes to rehab it's treated similarly to that of someone with a disability.

 

[EGGO]

Originally posted by: Ronstang
Let's see.....you are in question over whether you can fire someone for illegal drug possession and use AT WORK. Damn you must be a liberal. Can the beotch....she has absolutley no recourse or legal leg to stand on. Even if you could not prove she had the stuff at work (we all know she did...that is how junkies are) it doesn't matter. Most companies have a drug policy and ANY use at ANY time is enough to justify termination. Hell, if there is no union you can terminate her because you don't like her...unless she is Black....then you are stuck with her FOREVER.

If you've been reading, he said they haven't really CAUGHT her, but they have a suspicion based on noises the've heard. Dunno if that will hold them up if she brought them to court. In Florida, reasons prior termination may be different than what is done here in NJ, where it must be filed and have a good reason. In fact, there was a whole seminar on how to execute a termination not too long ago.

 

[MikeyIs4Dcats]

Originally posted by: snooker
The owner is reading this and has decided to terminate her tomorrow (she does not know we are onto her), once a replacement gets here.

I know noone has asked for a link yet, but I will give it now before you guys do start asking

her mug shot and booking report

Thats a bad move dude. Take down the link to her info. You have no right to do that.

 

[J Heartless Slick]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
The woman was doing freakin' nose candy in the bathroom. If that's not reason enough for termination, let me know where you work so I can steal sh!t and keep my job, thanks.

- M4H

How do you know?

 

[jjones]

Originally posted by: snooker
The owner is reading this and has decided to terminate her tomorrow (she does not know we are onto her), once a replacement gets here.

I know noone has asked for a link yet, but I will give it now before you guys do start asking

[link deleted]

Jesus H. Christ. You should have fired her a long time ago for being ugly.

 

[Ronstang]

Originally posted by: EGGO

Originally posted by: Ronstang
Let's see.....you are in question over whether you can fire someone for illegal drug possession and use AT WORK. Damn you must be a liberal. Can the beotch....she has absolutley no recourse or legal leg to stand on. Even if you could not prove she had the stuff at work (we all know she did...that is how junkies are) it doesn't matter. Most companies have a drug policy and ANY use at ANY time is enough to justify termination. Hell, if there is no union you can terminate her because you don't like her...unless she is Black....then you are stuck with her FOREVER.

If you've been reading, he said they haven't really CAUGHT her, but they have a suspicion based on noises the've heard. Dunno if that will hold them up if she brought them to court. In Florida, reasons prior termination may be different than what is done here in NJ, where it must be filed and have a good reason. In fact, there was a whole seminar on how to execute a termination not too long ago.

An arrest for possession of illegal drugs is all the EVIDENCE they need to terminate her. What part of most companies drug policies are people not able to grasp. Using drugs anytime....even on your own time is enough to justify termination. A company doesn't have to prove you did it at work. If you show positive on a random drug test you can be fired immediately, even if the drugs in your system were used on a cruise ship in the middle of the Carribean on your vacation.

 

[aswedc]

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats

Originally posted by: snooker
The owner is reading this and has decided to terminate her tomorrow (she does not know we are onto her), once a replacement gets here.

I know noone has asked for a link yet, but I will give it now before you guys do start asking

her mug shot and booking report

Thats a bad move dude. Take down the link to her info. You have no right to do that.

Why not? It's public information.

 

[MikeyIs4Dcats]

Originally posted by: aswedc

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats

Originally posted by: snooker
The owner is reading this and has decided to terminate her tomorrow (she does not know we are onto her), once a replacement gets here.

I know noone has asked for a link yet, but I will give it now before you guys do start asking

her mug shot and booking report

Thats a bad move dude. Take down the link to her info. You have no right to do that.

Why not? It's public information.

the other information he has posted is NOT public information. It's in bad taste IMO o post an individuals public information to a site like this. Until she is proven guilty, she is still innocent legally, and he could be guilty of libel by connecting the two.

 

[KK]

Originally posted by: aswedc

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats

Originally posted by: snooker
The owner is reading this and has decided to terminate her tomorrow (she does not know we are onto her), once a replacement gets here.

I know noone has asked for a link yet, but I will give it now before you guys do start asking

her mug shot and booking report

Thats a bad move dude. Take down the link to her info. You have no right to do that.

Why not? It's public information.

Yeah, plus she doesn't look like one that would access or know someone who does access the internet.

 

[MikeyIs4Dcats]

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: aswedc

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats

Originally posted by: snooker
The owner is reading this and has decided to terminate her tomorrow (she does not know we are onto her), once a replacement gets here.

I know noone has asked for a link yet, but I will give it now before you guys do start asking

her mug shot and booking report

Thats a bad move dude. Take down the link to her info. You have no right to do that.

Why not? It's public information.

Yeah, plus she doesn't look like one that would access or know someone who does access the internet.

Would any of you want your info posted to this site if you were picked up for a DUI or something?

 

[ScottFern]

Write a new clause in the company policy stating any use or posession of drugs and/or drug paraphernalia is grounds for termination.

 

[Ronstang]

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: aswedc

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats

Originally posted by: snooker
The owner is reading this and has decided to terminate her tomorrow (she does not know we are onto her), once a replacement gets here.

I know noone has asked for a link yet, but I will give it now before you guys do start asking

her mug shot and booking report

Thats a bad move dude. Take down the link to her info. You have no right to do that.

Why not? It's public information.

Yeah, plus she doesn't look like one that would access or know someone who does access the internet.

Would any of you want your info posted to this site if you were picked up for a DUI or something?

The info is a matter of public record and freely available on the internet....if you don't want the shame, don't play the game.

 

[Ramma2]

You guys have an at will employment policy? I had to sign something here to that effect, the HR manager explained it pretty well. Basically they can fire me or I can quit for any reason, no questions asked.

He said that if they didn't like the color of my socks they could let me go =P

 

[yllus]

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
Would any of you want your info posted to this site if you were picked up for a DUI or something?

It would be the least of my worries if I was picked up for "a DUI or something".

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
Would any of you want your info posted to this site if you were picked up for a DUI or something?

If I was ever dumb enough to DUI, and then got nailed for it (as I deserve) I'd be too ashamed of my stupid ass to be posting here ever again.

- M4H

 

[J Heartless Slick]

Originally posted by: snooker
The owner is reading this and has decided to terminate her tomorrow (she does not know we are onto her), once a replacement gets here.

I know noone has asked for a link yet, but I will give it now before you guys do start asking

[link deleted]

Okay, how do you know she was doing drugs in the bathroom?

What if her arrest is the result of he being in the wrong place at the wrong time?

 

[EGGO]

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: EGGO
If you've been reading, he said they haven't really CAUGHT her, but they have a suspicion based on noises the've heard. Dunno if that will hold them up if she brought them to court. In Florida, reasons prior termination may be different than what is done here in NJ, where it must be filed and have a good reason. In fact, there was a whole seminar on how to execute a termination not too long ago.

An arrest for possession of illegal drugs is all the EVIDINCE they need to terminate her. What part of most companies drug policies are people not be able to grasp. Using drugs anytime....even on your own time is enough to justify termination. A company doesn't have to prove you did it at work. If you show positive on a random drug test you can be fired immediately, even if the drugs in your system were used on a cruise ship in the middle of the Carribean on your vacation.

I stand corrected.

 

[Ronstang]

Originally posted by: J Heartless Slick

What if her arrest is the result of he being in the wrong place at the wrong time?

I love this cop out excuse. If you are caught anywere with drugs at anytime it is YOUR fault.

 

[Curly01]

Be careful in firing her. My place of employment can not fire someone who is actively getting treatment for an addiction. An addiction is considered a disease.

that being said, she'd be gone in 60 seconds if I had the power.

 

[Queasy]

Have her take a drug test. She fails. You fire. Easy.

 

[yllus]

Originally posted by: J Heartless Slick
Okay, how do you know she was doing drugs in the bathroom?

What if her arrest is the result of he being in the wrong place at the wrong time?

He doesn't have legal evidence of her using illegal substances on company property. Thus his questions as to their ability to fire her arbitrarily. I think it'd be nice to give her a chance, but it's not my biz.

Being in the wrong place at the wrong time? Um...right.

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: J Heartless Slick

What if her arrest is the result of he being in the wrong place at the wrong time?

I love this cop out excuse. If you are caught anywere with drugs at anytime it is YOUR fault.

I know you are on some sort of anti-drug crusade but wrong place at the wrong time does factor in sometimes. A friend of mine got nailed with a possesion charge because one of his other dumbass friends had a small bag of weed on him (my friend was being nice and just giving the guy a ride home).