Coffee shop refuses to serve police officers

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Starbuck1975

Lifer
Jan 6, 2005
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Who is funded by the shop's tax money to do a specific job?
...and if you read more about the story, the officer refused service and his department are looking to open a dialogue with the store owners, as they should.

Also, the yelp vigilantes have struck.

Just another day in Oakland.
 

Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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To the OP.. you say you have the right to not serve someone wanting a cake.. well then you can't have it both ways.. people have the right to not serve someone coffee
 
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FIVR

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To the OP.. you say you have the right to not serve someone wanting a cake.. well then you can't have it both ways.. people have the right to not serve someone coffee

Refusing to serve a cop is actually totally different than refusing to serve a gay person a cake. There is no way a gay person can become "straight", but a police officer can easily give up his employed position as a state-sponsored oppressor of minorities and walk in this coffee shop and be welcomed as any other customer.


There is a constitutional right to refuse service to armed dangerous persons but there is no such constitutional right to refuse service to somebody based on their sexual orientation. Equating the two situations is folly.
 

WaTaGuMp

Lifer
May 10, 2001
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The right to refuse service should be based on an individual, not just pretty much say fvck the police.
 
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Moonbeam

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The right to refuse service should be based on an individual, not just pretty much say fvck the police.
People should be able to critically reason but you didn't. Your opinion of what should be has nothing to do at all with what the law may actually say. Everybody discriminates as to what they think is right but law codifies opinions that thus become enforceable. You can can't discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation despite whatever bigotry you may have acquired usually because of the ridiculous assumption that what may be in a book of religion must be true because the book claims it was written by the magical finger of God. This is all clearly spelled out and peer review proven in the Big Book of Truth by Moonbeam.
 

BoomerD

No Lifer
Feb 26, 2006
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Am I to understand that people who advocate for the right of private businesses to discriminate against certain customers they don't like are incensed that other businesses with different beliefs would dare to discriminate against other categories of customers?

I am shocked, shocked I say, at this completely unforeseen turn of events.

Yeah...if you support the rights of, say bakery owners or florists, to refuse to do business with gay folks, how can refusing to do business with police be a bad thing?
 

cfenton

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If you think thats harassment, that's your opinion.

No, that's very clearly a violation of the fourth amendment. It is an illegal search. Police officers can't search you or your property without at least probable cause.
 

Thebobo

Lifer
Jun 19, 2006
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The should then respond in kind with a SWAT call to your house in the middle of the night...

Maybe call in saying your geiger counter started going going nuts when I got near his house.. that should bring the feds as well.
 

ch33zw1z

Lifer
Nov 4, 2004
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I will call in with an anonymous tip.
This is why we can't have nice things. If you actually have information pertinent to illegal immigration, then call it in. If you don't, then dont waste the authorities time with xenophobic falsehoods spawned from spite.
 

WaTaGuMp

Lifer
May 10, 2001
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This is why we can't have nice things. If you actually have information pertinent to illegal immigration, then call it in. If you don't, then dont waste the authorities time with xenophobic falsehoods spawned from spite.


I know a place that did hire illegals in my area, I never reported them, I wish I would have.
 

ch33zw1z

Lifer
Nov 4, 2004
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I know a place that did hire illegals in my area, I never reported them, I wish I would have.
That's doesn't really address my post. Employers who hire illegals are just as guilty of supporting illegal immigration as the people crossing the border, or facilitating it in other way. iIRC, GWB stopped enforcing penalizing employers, or at least greatly reduced the effort. Besides the point though

Either way, doing it fradulently is foolish, and in your context is spiteful, disingenuous, and is something that I would want to see consequences for....just like anybody who would engage emergency services such as LEO's, EMT's, or firefighters under false pretenses.
 

WaTaGuMp

Lifer
May 10, 2001
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That's doesn't really address my post. Employers who hire illegals are just as guilty of supporting illegal immigration as the people crossing the border, or facilitating it in other way. iIRC, GWB stopped enforcing penalizing employers, or at least greatly reduced the effort. Besides the point though

Either way, doing it fradulently is foolish, and in your context is spiteful, disingenuous, and is something that I would want to see consequences for....just like anybody who would engage emergency services such as LEO's, EMT's, or firefighters under false pretenses.

Umm, I wouldn't really do it for spite, I was stating I knew it had been done. Like I said, now I wish I would have, because of the owner and manager being assholes.
 

ch33zw1z

Lifer
Nov 4, 2004
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Umm, I wouldn't really do it for spite, I was stating I knew it had been done. Like I said, now I wish I would have, because of the owner and manager being assholes.
Ok, we're discussing the current situation, specifically the OP, where you are doing it out of spite, without a shred of evidence....I guess the coffee shop having a Spanish name is enough for you.
 

WaTaGuMp

Lifer
May 10, 2001
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Ok, we're discussing the current situation, specifically the OP, where you are doing it out of spite, without a shred of evidence....I guess the coffee shop having a Spanish name is enough for you.

I am not really doing it at all, but if someone else does knowing facts, that's cool with me. I don't live near this place or really know who they hire. The anonymous call thing was just joking around.
 

brycejones

Lifer
Oct 18, 2005
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I am not really doing it at all, but if someone else does knowing facts, that's cool with me. I don't live near this place or really know who they hire. The anonymous call thing was just joking around.

Uh huh, how Trumpian of you.
 
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