Coffee shop refuses to serve police officers

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bshole

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Its that whole social contract thing. As bad as the world is with police, it could get a whole lot worse without them. For a well functioning society there absolutely needs to be some trust flowing both ways. If the police have broken that trust, they should be afforded the opportunity to repair it.

The company explained their reasoning in not serving cops in an Instagram post. The post included an image that read, “Talk to your neighbors, not the police” in Spanish.

“Last Friday February 16th a police (OPD) entered our shop and was told by one of our worker-owners that ‘we have a policy of asking police to leave for the physical and emotional safety of our customers and ourselves,’” the post read.

“ … We know in our experience working on campaigns against police brutality that we are not alone saying that police presence compromises our feeling of physical & emotional safety.

“There are those that do not share that sentiment – be it because they have a friend or relative who is a police, because they are white or have adopted the privileges whiteness affords, because they are home- or business- owning, or whatever the particular case may be.”

The officer that was denied his coffee says that he would like to speak to the people who work at Hasta Muerte Coffee and find a way to bridge the divide.

The coffee shop posted on Instagram that they would not be surprised if the cops try to maintain “smooth public relations to uphold power.”

“We want to put this out to our communities now, in case we end up facing backlash because as we know (Oakland police), unlike the community, has tons of resources, many of which are poured into maintaining smooth public relations to uphold power,” they wrote on Instagram. “It will be no surprise if some of those resources are steered toward discrediting us for not inviting them in as part of the community.”

https://thegrio.com/2018/03/12/cali...rve-police-officers-over-concerns-for-safety/
 

SNC

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So how long before comparisons are being made about the length of time it takes for calls to the police for assistance taking longer to their area then to the whiter areas the cops are getting coffee in now?
I wonder if they would be OK with other neighborhoods only talking with neighbors and not the police when they feel they've been wronged, and take matter into their own hands. At what point does it stop?
 

ch33zw1z

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So how long before comparisons are being made about the length of time it takes for calls to the police for assistance taking longer to their area then to the whiter areas the cops are getting coffee in now?
I wonder if they would be OK with other neighborhoods only talking with neighbors and not the police when they feel they've been wronged, and take matter into their own hands. At what point does it stop?
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/03/oakland-police-reform-115552

Good question.
 

Starbuck1975

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The coffee shop posted on Instagram that they would not be surprised if the cops try to maintain “smooth public relations to uphold power.”
How does the coffee not melt such precious snowflakes? The only way you are going to improve the situation is through public relations and dialogue. Dialogue IS a source of power chuckleheads.
 
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Jhhnn

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How does the coffee not melt such precious snowflakes? The only way you are going to improve the situation is through public relations and dialogue. Dialogue IS a source of power chuckeheads.

It takes more than dialogue. It's what sanctuary cities are all about- gaining the trust of the residents by having the cops distinguish themselves from ICE. It doesn't matter how we got here but the truth is that many communities have large populations of undocumented immigrants who are basically afraid of the police & won't come forward to help law enforcement. That's not good for any of us.
 

pcgeek11

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That's acute. You're operating under preconceived notions that Oakland pd was quick to respond for this business. Maybe, just maybe, there's more to the story, and refusal to serve the officer coffee isn't just a random act of stupid.

No, I'm not.

I'm OK with them refusing to serve the police or anyone else coffee or a cake. Let the customers decide if the business lives or dies.

Serve whoever you want, it just might have repercussions.
 
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