Cold Air Intakes

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: exdeath
I'm of the type that likes to obliterate competition with a clear cut victory and I avoid confrontations if I know I may be at a possible disadvantage. I don't like taking chances, I enjoy the extremely wide, albeit unfair, margin of victory I have with my car. There is no "well if I did this, or if the road was 10 feet longer I could have beat you or if there was a full moon I could have beat you..." type of excuses. I like my victories to be like that of using a nuclear weapon in a gun fight: total domination and annihilation of my aggressor to such an extent that nobody can possibly dispute it without being declared mentally ill or blind.

So if a Supra pulled up next to you with an audible BOV, chances are you'd do nothing...but if a civic did; you'd blow their doors off?

Also you are also comparing a modified car to a total stock one. Stock cobras put out around 400hp at the height.

700HP in a mustang < 140hp in a street bike though. Talking a camry then yes. While the Elise has around 200hp from the factory it puts up numbers pretty close to cars with double the power and more.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
#1 Where did I say that?

#2 Shut up, shut up, shut up. 140hp in modern cars is fvck-all*pi. Which is fvck all.

#3 A CAI on a 140hp car may produce 1, maybe 2hp. By the time that gets from the flywheel to the road, combined with your terrible driving, I assure you it will make no bloody difference except to make more noise.

#4 Trust me, you're the idiot. On ALL levels.

you seem to be an angry little man. Not everyone does things to their cars for ultimate power.

You started with the insults dipsh!t. Some of us still remember your epic nerd-battle with a certain member on this board. If anyone has issues, it is most certainly you.

ummm no. Just like other's that seem to think it's me that started it, like you.

This was your first post in this thread, pretty insulting to the OP:

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA....*gasp*.....BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA

If you can't take it, don't try to dish it out. You need to breathe some more as well if you are getting so worked up talking cars.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
#1 Where did I say that?

#2 Shut up, shut up, shut up. 140hp in modern cars is fvck-all*pi. Which is fvck all.

#3 A CAI on a 140hp car may produce 1, maybe 2hp. By the time that gets from the flywheel to the road, combined with your terrible driving, I assure you it will make no bloody difference except to make more noise.

#4 Trust me, you're the idiot. On ALL levels.

you seem to be an angry little man. Not everyone does things to their cars for ultimate power.

You started with the insults dipsh!t. Some of us still remember your epic nerd-battle with a certain member on this board. If anyone has issues, it is most certainly you.

ummm no. Just like other's that seem to think it's me that started it, like you.

This was your first post in this thread, pretty insulting to the OP:

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA....*gasp*.....BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA

If you can't take it, don't try to dish it out. You need to breathe some more as well if you are getting so worked up talking cars.

You're still clueless about cars.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: exdeath
Even the cheapest smallest and lightest economy car is going to be at a minimum 2,000 lbs up front cost in weight due to the minimal neccessary components that can be called a automobile. These cars, such as the Civic, Geo, etc., typically come with 80-100 HP just to get that base weight barely rolling. And 140 HP isn't that much more than what is minimally needed to get the lightest and most economical cars moving.

I'd just like to bring up a fun fact here: The Civic hasn't been anywhere near a 2000lb curb weight (dry, unloaded) since the 80's. My 05 is just shy of 2500lbs.

- M4H

 

[Aikouka]

Originally posted by: alkemyst
So if a Supra pulled up next to you with an audible BOV, chances are you'd do nothing...but if a civic did; you'd blow their doors off?

To me, it sounds like he'd care if a Civic came up, revving it's little 4-banger and acting like a hot-shot with his new carbon fiber hood .

But on a personal note, I have absolutely no problem pulling off in my Stratus, although I don't race it nor have any intention to. I've also never had anyone try to race me, although some Honda kiddy did try to race my brother when he had a crappy old Olds Eighty-Eight. It was kind of funny. I saw the kid once in my Talon and I sooo wanted to crush him for being such a tool to race a Grandma's car.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: exdeath
Even the cheapest smallest and lightest economy car is going to be at a minimum 2,000 lbs up front cost in weight due to the minimal neccessary components that can be called a automobile. These cars, such as the Civic, Geo, etc., typically come with 80-100 HP just to get that base weight barely rolling. And 140 HP isn't that much more than what is minimally needed to get the lightest and most economical cars moving.

I'd just like to bring up a fun fact here: The Civic hasn't been anywhere near a 2000lb curb weight (dry, unloaded) since the 80's. My 05 is just shy of 2500lbs.

- M4H

I used to have a Gen Four '91 1.6i-16 3 door hatch(gen 2 crx, but in hatch form 130hp D16a twin cam PGM-FI ) was an 858kg car(~1890lbs). It was still only good for 0-60 in 8 seconds. Hardly a rocket ship.

As I said before, 140hp is eff all.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: exdeath
Even the cheapest smallest and lightest economy car is going to be at a minimum 2,000 lbs up front cost in weight due to the minimal neccessary components that can be called a automobile. These cars, such as the Civic, Geo, etc., typically come with 80-100 HP just to get that base weight barely rolling. And 140 HP isn't that much more than what is minimally needed to get the lightest and most economical cars moving.

I'd just like to bring up a fun fact here: The Civic hasn't been anywhere near a 2000lb curb weight (dry, unloaded) since the 80's. My 05 is just shy of 2500lbs.

- M4H

I used to have a Gen Four '91 1.6i-16 3 door hatch(gen 2 crx, but in hatch form 130hp D16a twin cam PGM-FI ) was an 858kg car(~1890lbs). It was still only good for 0-60 in 8 seconds. Hardly a rocket ship.

As I said before, 140hp is eff all.

You live in the UK, you don't count.

- M4H

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: exdeath
Even the cheapest smallest and lightest economy car is going to be at a minimum 2,000 lbs up front cost in weight due to the minimal neccessary components that can be called a automobile. These cars, such as the Civic, Geo, etc., typically come with 80-100 HP just to get that base weight barely rolling. And 140 HP isn't that much more than what is minimally needed to get the lightest and most economical cars moving.

I'd just like to bring up a fun fact here: The Civic hasn't been anywhere near a 2000lb curb weight (dry, unloaded) since the 80's. My 05 is just shy of 2500lbs.

- M4H

I used to have a Gen Four '91 1.6i-16 3 door hatch(gen 2 crx, but in hatch form 130hp D16a twin cam PGM-FI ) was an 858kg car(~1890lbs). It was still only good for 0-60 in 8 seconds. Hardly a rocket ship.

As I said before, 140hp is eff all.

You live in the UK, you don't count.

- M4H

Canada is just the USA's jimmy hat.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Canada is just the USA's jimmy hat.

We're bigger and we're on top. The USA is our prison-bitch.

- M4H

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
You're still clueless about cars.

at least in your beliefs of how they are put together and run.

I turn all my own wrenches and do most of the work now on other cars of my friends and family. This weekend's line up is the 45k service for my brother's 996 and new front struts on my mom's RAV4.

Of course http://driftkat.com/98SEmine.php shows the work I have done on my own car so far other the audio and security, everything is written up.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: alkemyst
http://driftkat.com/98SEmine.php

DOOORRRRIIIIIFTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

- M4H

 

[exdeath]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: exdeath
I'm of the type that likes to obliterate competition with a clear cut victory and I avoid confrontations if I know I may be at a possible disadvantage. I don't like taking chances, I enjoy the extremely wide, albeit unfair, margin of victory I have with my car. There is no "well if I did this, or if the road was 10 feet longer I could have beat you or if there was a full moon I could have beat you..." type of excuses. I like my victories to be like that of using a nuclear weapon in a gun fight: total domination and annihilation of my aggressor to such an extent that nobody can possibly dispute it without being declared mentally ill or blind.

So if a Supra pulled up next to you with an audible BOV, chances are you'd do nothing...but if a civic did; you'd blow their doors off?

Also you are also comparing a modified car to a total stock one. Stock cobras put out around 400hp at the height.

700HP in a mustang < 140hp in a street bike though. Talking a camry then yes. While the Elise has around 200hp from the factory it puts up numbers pretty close to cars with double the power and more.

Nah, I'd run with the Supra, they are nice cars, and one of the few cars with similar potential as the '03 Cobra (some people even call the '03 Cobra a 'domestic Supra') They are just as rare as '03 Cobras and Z06 Vettes in my area though. But I'm not talking about heavily modified high performance cars racing 1v1, as not everyone in traffic is driving 700+ HP cars.

The kind of stuff I am talking about is when you are going a constant speed in your lane, not driving aggressively or anything. If your front bumper should happen to line up with someone in the next lane who was also going a constant but slower speed, they will get a hair up their ass all of the sudden and speed up to stay even or in front of you so you can't get over, even if you had no intention of doing so. WTF is that all about anyway? In almost every case, the person getting a hair up their ass only does so if he/shee has a slightly better car and knows it (ie: even a V6 camry will do this to me in my I4 camry after they've allowed me to pass them only enough to confirm that I don't have a V6 emblem on the trunk). Similarly, is someone downshifting and revving passed you to squeeze into the spot in front of you only to brake and turn, when there is a mile of empty space behind you. In every case, said car is new, shiny, with tinted windows, chrome rims, etc, but not neccessarily riced.

Should someone do that to me while I am driving the Camry, there is a pretty good chance I can't do anything about it against 99% of cars on the road, and it usually results in being greeted with a smug look of superiority or a demeaning smirk. That kind of petty competition doesn't even register to me in the Cobra for obvious reasons. I just don't have to deal with it, and it makes driving so much more enjoyable, less of a competition.

Put 4 people in a 130 HP 4 banger accelerating up a hill from a stoplight in the middle of a hot humid windy summer with the AC running on a 65 mph road. Everyone else will ride your ass and blow past you on both sides when you have the pedal to the floor and the tach at 6g, while their speedos climb faster than your tach. Yeah, 130 HP is inadequate, at least for me. From completely up to all the way to the floor, it's like there is nothing there when you move the accelerator pedal. If you can feel the car lug when the AC turns on, you don't have enough power, period. Yeah I know the Camry is a economy car, thats why I still drive it from time to time. But 130 HP is 130 HP, I don't care if it's in a Camry or a Acura, there is only so much you can expect it to do for you.

It's really quite sad the level of marginal 1-up-manship people have when driving. I prefer to just avoid it completely by having a ridiculous beast that is generally unavailable to most and that which cannot be trivially beat by petty 'trim level 1-up-manship' games. If I happen to be passing someone at a constant speed and someone gets a hair up their ass and starts revving and speeding up, I say FU then and I dust them, but only after they've been hanging with me with their tach in the red for 5 minutes trying to prove they can stay even while I'm simply cruising in 4th. When I am simply driving from point A to point B, and not out looking for a race, I don't like people getting uppity with me.

I also don't appreciate people with backwards caps who lean into the center of their car with one hand on the wheel, who know nothing about cars. You know and I know that their 200 HP Eclipse with tinted windows and glitzy chrome rims and 'bumpin system' is of no significance when it comes to high performance cars, but its still obviously better than a Camry. These are the kind of people I absolutely hate being next to at a light when I am in the Camry instead of the Cobra.

Comparing a modified car to a stock car is valid when the person with the stock car, like the examples above, thinks they can beat everyone because of it's name brand or expensive or flashy and trendy, when that person knows nothing about cars. These people buy cars because the sticker says it has more horsepower than somebody elses, not because they know about the car or it's history or potential.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: exdeath

Nah, I'd run with the Supra, they are nice cars, and one of the few cars with similar potential as the '03 Cobra (some people even call the '03 Cobra a 'domestic Supra') They are just as rare as '03 Cobras and Z06 Vettes in my area though. But I'm not talking about heavily modified high performance cars racing 1v1, as not everyone in traffic is driving 700+ HP cars.

Why would someone refer to the mustang as a domestic supra? The mustang was around a lot longer and the basis for the supra. I suppose in a Cobra-centric world...

Originally posted by: exdeath
The kind of stuff I am talking about is when you are going a constant speed in your lane, not driving aggressively or anything. If your front bumper should happen to line up with someone in the next lane who was also going a constant but slower speed, they will get a hair up their ass all of the sudden and speed up to stay even or in front of you so you can't get over, even if you had no intention of doing so. WTF is that all about anyway?

It's simple, they fear your Cobra and are trying to flee.

Originally posted by: exdeath
Put 4 people in a 130 HP 4 banger accelerating up a hill from a stoplight in the middle of a hot humid windy summer with the AC running on a 65 mph road. Everyone else will ride your ass and blow past you on both sides when you have the pedal to the floor and the tach at 6g. Yeah, 130 HP is inadequate, at least for me. From completely up to all the way to the floor, it's like there is nothing there when you move the accelerator pedal. If you can feel the car lug when the AC turns on, you don't have enough power, period. Yeah I know the Camry is a economy car, thats why I still drive it from time to time. But 130 HP is 130 HP, I don't care if it's in a Camry or a Acura, there is only so much you can expect out of it.

You seem to miss gearing considerations...4 people in a 130HP car should not have problems....now if they are pushing 300lbs+ each then perhaps.

Again though it's not so much the power as the Power to Weight and gearing. The Elise doesn't even have 200hp and will turn a sub-5sec 0-60 time. There is not much of a reason in today's world to put much less than 200hp in a car as modern engines can easily do that at even lower displacements.

Originally posted by: exdeath
It's really quite sad the level of marginal 1-up-manship people have when driving. I prefer to just avoid it completely by having a beast that is generally unavailable to most and that which cannot be trivially beat by petty 'trim level 1-up-manship' games. If I happen to be passing someone at a constant speed and someone gets a hair up their ass and tries to speed up, I say FU then and dust them after they've been a red line for 5 minutes proving they can stay even. When I am simply driving, and not racing, I don't like people getting uppity with me.

seems ironic to me.

Originally posted by: exdeath
I also don't appreciate people with backwards caps who lean into the center of their car with one hand on the wheel, who know nothing about cars. You know and I know that their 200 HP Eclipse with tinted windows and glitzy chrome rims and 'bumpin system' is of no significance when it comes to high performance cars, but its still obviously better than a Camry. These are the kind of people I hate being next to at a light when I am in the Camry instead of the Cobra.

How do you drive? leather jacket, leather gloves, aviators, and driving shoes...both hands at 2 and 10 until you shift? It's called kids out cruising. I see alot more of that type in high performance cars around here than not...but this is Palm Beach County, our highschools are full of cobras, Supras, Porsches, even a few Bentleys and Aston Martins. Again for most people comfort and entertainment stuff is their main criteria. Most people would not like my car just based on the fact that although it's not harsh, there is not much rubber left in the suspension.

Originally posted by: exdeath
Comparing a modified car to a stock car is valid when the person with the stock car, like the example above, thinks they can beat everyone because of it's name brand or expensive or flashy and trendy, when that person knows nothing about cars. These people buy cars because the sticker says it has more horsepower than somebody elses, not because they know about the car or it's history or potential.

I think you think your 700hp Cobra is what's unbeatable. That's not a lot of power with those going for performance mods. You basically upped boost on a 400hp street car, there are vettes and vipers running around with mid-4 figure horsepower here and 10sec honda galore (which I don't care for, but 10sec is a fast 1/4 mile no matter how you cut it).

I am looking at going to about 350WHP for my car, it will turn a 4 sec 0-60 and be near 12.0 in the 1/4. If I make it a non-daily driver I will go higher and be at a 3 sec 0-60 and high 10's

Å

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: exdeath
The kind of stuff I am talking about is when you are going a constant speed in your lane, not driving aggressively or anything. If your front bumper should happen to line up with someone in the next lane who was also going a constant but slower speed, they will get a hair up their ass all of the sudden and speed up to stay even or in front of you so you can't get over, even if you had no intention of doing so. WTF is that all about anyway?

It's simple, they fear your Cobra and are trying to flee.

Or they want to hear the blower whine.

Which you still need to post a video of.

- M4H

 

[exdeath]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: exdeath

Nah, I'd run with the Supra, they are nice cars, and one of the few cars with similar potential as the '03 Cobra (some people even call the '03 Cobra a 'domestic Supra') They are just as rare as '03 Cobras and Z06 Vettes in my area though. But I'm not talking about heavily modified high performance cars racing 1v1, as not everyone in traffic is driving 700+ HP cars.

Why would someone refer to the mustang as a domestic supra? The mustang was around a lot longer and the basis for the supra. I suppose in a Cobra-centric world...

Originally posted by: exdeath
The kind of stuff I am talking about is when you are going a constant speed in your lane, not driving aggressively or anything. If your front bumper should happen to line up with someone in the next lane who was also going a constant but slower speed, they will get a hair up their ass all of the sudden and speed up to stay even or in front of you so you can't get over, even if you had no intention of doing so. WTF is that all about anyway?

It's simple, they fear your Cobra and are trying to flee.

Originally posted by: exdeath
Put 4 people in a 130 HP 4 banger accelerating up a hill from a stoplight in the middle of a hot humid windy summer with the AC running on a 65 mph road. Everyone else will ride your ass and blow past you on both sides when you have the pedal to the floor and the tach at 6g. Yeah, 130 HP is inadequate, at least for me. From completely up to all the way to the floor, it's like there is nothing there when you move the accelerator pedal. If you can feel the car lug when the AC turns on, you don't have enough power, period. Yeah I know the Camry is a economy car, thats why I still drive it from time to time. But 130 HP is 130 HP, I don't care if it's in a Camry or a Acura, there is only so much you can expect out of it.

You seem to miss gearing considerations...4 people in a 130HP car should not have problems....now if they are pushing 300lbs+ each then perhaps.

Again though it's not so much the power as the Power to Weight and gearing. The Elise doesn't even have 200hp and will turn a sub-5sec 0-60 time. There is not much of a reason in today's world to put much less than 200hp in a car as modern engines can easily do that at even lower displacements.

Originally posted by: exdeath
It's really quite sad the level of marginal 1-up-manship people have when driving. I prefer to just avoid it completely by having a beast that is generally unavailable to most and that which cannot be trivially beat by petty 'trim level 1-up-manship' games. If I happen to be passing someone at a constant speed and someone gets a hair up their ass and tries to speed up, I say FU then and dust them after they've been a red line for 5 minutes proving they can stay even. When I am simply driving, and not racing, I don't like people getting uppity with me.

seems ironic to me.

Originally posted by: exdeath
I also don't appreciate people with backwards caps who lean into the center of their car with one hand on the wheel, who know nothing about cars. You know and I know that their 200 HP Eclipse with tinted windows and glitzy chrome rims and 'bumpin system' is of no significance when it comes to high performance cars, but its still obviously better than a Camry. These are the kind of people I hate being next to at a light when I am in the Camry instead of the Cobra.

How do you drive? leather jacket, leather gloves, aviators, and driving shoes...both hands at 2 and 10 until you shift? It's called kids out cruising. I see alot more of that type in high performance cars around here than not...but this is Palm Beach County, our highschools are full of cobras, Supras, Porsches, even a few Bentleys and Aston Martins. Again for most people comfort and entertainment stuff is their main criteria. Most people would not like my car just based on the fact that although it's not harsh, there is not much rubber left in the suspension.

Originally posted by: exdeath
Comparing a modified car to a stock car is valid when the person with the stock car, like the example above, thinks they can beat everyone because of it's name brand or expensive or flashy and trendy, when that person knows nothing about cars. These people buy cars because the sticker says it has more horsepower than somebody elses, not because they know about the car or it's history or potential.

I think you think your 700hp Cobra is what's unbeatable. That's not a lot of power with those going for performance mods. You basically upped boost on a 400hp street car, there are vettes and vipers running around with mid-4 figure horsepower here and 10sec honda galore (which I don't care for, but 10sec is a fast 1/4 mile no matter how you cut it).

I am looking at going to about 350WHP for my car, it will turn a 4 sec 0-60 and be near 12.0 in the 1/4. If I make it a non-daily driver I will go higher and be at a 3 sec 0-60 and high 10's

Å

The 'domestic Supra' comment only applies to the '03-'04 Terminators, and is a reference to the bullet proof bottom end that comes from the factory in both these cars. The Supra was out well before the Terminators, and earned a reputation for having a bullet proof and reliable factory bottom end that only needed minor bolt ons and more boost to make unthinkable and safe power into the 10s and 9s. The '03 Cobra which came out after the Supra has earned pretty much the same reputation. Hence, 'domestic Supra'

They aren't fleeing from the Cobra, in fact they do this more often when I'm NOT driving the Cobra, or maybe they do and I just don't notice it. I mean I do take off in 3rd sometimes and don't notice it

You're right, I didn't think about gearing at first, so I checked it out. It's outright silly to be comparing a Camry to a Cobra... but anyway:

95 Camry S51 5 speed:
1st 3.54
2nd 1.96
3rd 1.25
4th 0.95
5th 0.73
Axle 3.944
130HP/145TQ @ 2800 lbs

03 Cobra T56 6 speed:
1st 2.66
2nd 1.78
3rd 1.30
4th 1.00
5th 0.80
6th 0.63
Axle 3.55 (stock)
390HP/390TQ @ 3700 lbs (stock)

Camry is lighter and has quicker final drive gears but really in practice it pulls like a slug in any gear at any RPM. The GSR you mentioned before has similar gearing but it has 30 HP more and is 150-200 lbs lighter and with 4.40 drive gears. I do see room for improvement between first and second, but I doubt it would change the outcome much as the power deficit is just far to great to do anything about it. I just don't think anyone should expect that much from 130HP. It gets you from point A to point B, it's not a high performance engine no matter what transaxle or car its mated to.

Oh the Cobra is beatable, but how often does that happen, that is my concern A whole lot less than most any other car I would be driving for sure. What's worse on the ego, a Cobra that can be beat by one guy in a 1200 HP Z06 once a year, or being in a Camry and getting beat by everything year round including minivans :laugh: I know 700 HP isn't that big a deal compared to 4000 HP nitro cars, etc. But like you said, low 10s high 9s is fast no matter how you cut it. Those 4 figure Corvettes and Vipers are running rebuilt engines with new short blocks, lower C/R, etc. The point behind the Cobra and Supra isn't that the power is impressive, its that you get that power with only bolt ons to the stock long block and a ECU flash. Name another car besides the Cobra and Supra with engines built like that? You can get built 4.6 race blocks with warranty to 1600 HP if you want to go the engine build route The fastest '03 I know of is running 8s with a huge single turbo conversion on the factory long block...

Yeah I was checking out your link, 350 WHP is nice for a I4 :thumbsup: Only performance oriented I4 I know much about is the Toyota 3SGTE.

 

[Remedy]

Bookmarked thread.

 

[CraigRT]

People who say 1-3HP are either stupid or have experience with a very specific car which already had good lungs to begin with

My friend put a basic AEM cold air on his base 2000 Neon 5 speed, and went from 16.5 consistent quarter mile, to 16.0 consistent quarter mile. that is more than a 3HP increase. NO OTHER MODS.

The CAI on my 3.5 Altima makes a little difference, and sounds absolutely badass!!

I've had an intake on every car I've owned, If anything it helps mileage slightly and makes the car more fun to drive...

 

[vizkiz]

Most of the "CAI" on the market are actually warm air intakes and do not increase power by much, maybe 1-8hp at the crank, depending on the car.

If you get a true CAI that was designed specifically for your car, you can gain between 5 and 20hp depending on the car, size of engine, etc.


Ricer CAI (aka Short Ram) = takes in warm air from the engine bay.
True CAI = takes in cool air from an area that is seperated from the engine bay.

 

[fbrdphreak]

Originally posted by: exdeath
FYI: I'm not an aggressive driver

Right.........the person who said they need a high horsepower car in traffic to feel adequate....no, you're Janet Rino in a sedan alright.....

 

[fbrdphreak]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Canada is just the USA's jimmy hat.

We're bigger and we're on top. The USA is our prison-bitch.

- M4H

bwahahahaha to both counts, awesome

 

[fbrdphreak]

And why is this thread still going? Haven't we proven a CAI on the OP's car is a waste of money, and didn't he agree to it?

E-Penis automotive posturing is only good for so long...

 

[Aikouka]

Originally posted by: exdeath
Similarly, is someone downshifting and revving passed you to squeeze into the spot in front of you only to brake and turn, when there is a mile of empty space behind you. In every case, said car is new, shiny, with tinted windows, chrome rims, etc, but not neccessarily riced.

I HATE it when people get the nerve to pass me like that. I mean, I don't even drive slow on this road (55 and goes to 45 before the turn-off spot and I typically go 65 in it). Yet some car will go blazing past me for some unknown reason just to turn off 5 seconds ahead. Luckily, there are turning lanes for the left and the right turns. What bothers me so much is why the hell are they speeding ahead just to turn?

Originally posted by: exdeath
Should someone do that to me while I am driving the Camry, there is a pretty good chance I can't do anything about it against 99% of cars on the road, and it usually results in being greeted with a smug look of superiority or a demeaning smirk. That kind of petty competition doesn't even register to me in the Cobra for obvious reasons. I just don't have to deal with it, and it makes driving so much more enjoyable, less of a competition.

See, that's the issue that I'm trying to get rid of. Driving trying to be some sort of contest, because being passed is equivalent to someone saying I'm slow. Although I've gotten over that pretty easily .

But personally for me, people with their fast cars can brag all they want about how fast they can run in a straight line. I prefer real driving... none of this Fast and the Furious crap (excluding Tokyo Drift which didn't have any drag racing). I could care less if my Stratus can reach 150+ mph, I care how fast it can corner . It does pretty decently actually (note, all of my tests involve me staying in my lane as well), and it needs new struts .

 

[exdeath]

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak

Originally posted by: exdeath
FYI: I'm not an aggressive driver

Right.........the person who said they need a high horsepower car in traffic to feel adequate....no, you're Janet Rino in a sedan alright.....

I'm a defensive driver, not aggressive. But I will defend myself if someone else starts posturing at me. I'm not out picking on people, e.g.: people that were already ahead of me at a merge I slow down and wait for them to get over in front of me (unless they have been doing 20 under and holding up traffic for the last mile or something like that). But if some idiot behind me tries to cut around at the last minute or intimidate me with his loud muffler or lifted truck he gets denied and taught a lesson on living cooperatively in society. e.g. no cuts, wait in line loser!

In fact the whole point of the Cobra is to NOT have to have to use it? it's kind of like the MAD (mutually assured destruction) principle with nuclear weapons. Most people already know there isn?t much out there that can touch a ?03 cobra with a screw, and there aren?t a whole lot of comparable cars in my area, so I pretty much get left alone, which is the actually the whole point. The fact that more people are eager to peel out next to my Camry than the Cobra says it all. Speak softly and carry a big stick indeed.

And you have a nice GTO with 400 HP don't act like it isn't nice to have

 

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Originally posted by: Aikouka

Originally posted by: exdeath
Similarly, is someone downshifting and revving passed you to squeeze into the spot in front of you only to brake and turn, when there is a mile of empty space behind you. In every case, said car is new, shiny, with tinted windows, chrome rims, etc, but not neccessarily riced.

I HATE it when people get the nerve to pass me like that. I mean, I don't even drive slow on this road (55 and goes to 45 before the turn-off spot and I typically go 65 in it). Yet some car will go blazing past me for some unknown reason just to turn off 5 seconds ahead. Luckily, there are turning lanes for the left and the right turns. What bothers me so much is why the hell are they speeding ahead just to turn?

Originally posted by: exdeath
Should someone do that to me while I am driving the Camry, there is a pretty good chance I can't do anything about it against 99% of cars on the road, and it usually results in being greeted with a smug look of superiority or a demeaning smirk. That kind of petty competition doesn't even register to me in the Cobra for obvious reasons. I just don't have to deal with it, and it makes driving so much more enjoyable, less of a competition.

See, that's the issue that I'm trying to get rid of. Driving trying to be some sort of contest, because being passed is equivalent to someone saying I'm slow. Although I've gotten over that pretty easily .

But personally for me, people with their fast cars can brag all they want about how fast they can run in a straight line. I prefer real driving... none of this Fast and the Furious crap (excluding Tokyo Drift which didn't have any drag racing). I could care less if my Stratus can reach 150+ mph, I care how fast it can corner . It does pretty decently actually (note, all of my tests involve me staying in my lane as well), and it needs new struts .

Yeah it's dumb. It's the driving version of tea bagging and that's all it is and ever has been. I don't like to be tea bagged. It's not that you are going slow. You can be doing 90 and they will still want to get around you and go 100. If you go 100, they will want to go 110. I've watched people going say 45 on a cross road with plenty of time and distance for me to pull out from a stop sign and get to 45 so as not to impede or require them to slow down at all. Suddenly they get a hair up their ass and decide they want to do 60 and ride my ass. WTF. It's purely a 'who has the bigger penis' game, one that I don't like being involuntarily drafted into.

Example (warning: long ricer style story):

The other night some punk in a Acura or something was following behind me from a distance and a light turned red where a 2 lane merged to a 1 lane, and it was clearly marked. As expected by the rapidly closing blue head lights in my rear view, he did that aggressive ricer stop where they barely miss the corner of your rear bumper as they change lanes and stop hard next to you. He does that changing into the lane that is clearly ending up ahead. Starts blasting his stereo, and starts inching forward as the other light goes yellow, and I can hear his fart can bumbling as he blips it foward inch by inch. I'm doing nothing but sitting there idle at this point. I let him have the hole shot, gently ease out of the clutch and stay beside him for a few seconds while hes abusing the ****** out of that poor car trying to break away, then I push it down all the way and pass him like hes standing still with rubber screaming the whole time I'm within ear shot. After about a block ahead of him I slow down to the speed limit of 65 and sure enough a few seconds later hes still going wide open trying to catch me, honking, flashing his brights, etc. And riding like 2" off my bumper. So I speed up and put some distance between us while being careful of my speed but making it clear to him that I am not in his way lol. I make a left turn into a turn lane onto a 2 lane 2 way road and he follows. Twice on this road he tries to overtake me in a no passing zone in the lane of oncoming traffic and I dust his ass and force him to get back over behind me due to oncoming traffic, and he throws a fit with his brights again.

Now for anyone who tries to make excuses for this guy, there are no hospitals or emergency facilities in the area so it wasn't that. Traffic was already going like 65 in a 55 on that second street, and there were cars up ahead of me that he would have eventually had to slow down for anyway. It was totally unneccessary. His only goal in life was to get in front of me for bragging rights and for no particular reason other than for what is best described as 'pwning' and tea bagging, and I didn't let him do it. If I had been in my Camry he would have got me at the merge no problem and had gone 10 under the rest of the way with me behind him so he could smile at me in his rear view.

Another time a similar thing happens while I'm driving my womans car with her as the passenger in her '06 Avalon (280 HP V6) and this black Trans Am rolls up next to us and the driver stares us down. I punk his ass to the merge in this desert gold granny car and he starts with the same sore loser bullshit with flashing head lights. So I'm keeping and eye on this guy and I see him stop all of the sudden and turn around and go back the other way... he'd followed us through the merge just because he thought it would be a easy kill? I guess... wtf is wrong with people. Speaking of... need to check up on that TRD Aurion supercharger coming out soon...

All the roads here are typical N-S and W-E city blocks with stop signs and street lights, and all turns are 90 degree left and right hand turns onto cross streets... so bottom end torque and 0-100mph is what it's all about.

Think about it, when on the street on the town, and someone is out looking for a fight on Friday night, are they gonna go blowing by you in a left hand turn lane at 150 mph? Not likely. They are always going to try to over take you on the free way or on a multi-lane straight or a stop light.

Not that my car can't handle, the IRS is smooth as hell, and people who race these cars on closed courses are staying right next to vettes and bmws

 

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