College Football Playoff

[Childs]

OK, I see what you guys are referring to with the Notre Dame ACC schedule. They will continue to play USC, Stanford and Navy. Kind of interesting that they will not continue to play Michigan as well. Some of the speculation is that Michigan is no longer a perennial top 25 team, and nationally Michigan isn't the draw that it once was, and OSU might take their stop on ND's schedule full time in a few years.

 

[Fern]

If Notre Dame played relevant teams from all the conferences, it would be far more impressive IMO.

Well, I give props to ND for scheduling a bunch of Power 5 conference games as they do.

Yeah, scheduling more top teams would be great for fans, but many top teams won't do it. I know FSU has tried and there just aren't many takers. Somebody backed out of game with us last year. I think it was an SEC West team. We ended up having to pay some crappy team a bunch of money to fill in at the last minute.

Maybe the committee system will have a positive effect here.

Fern

 

[cabri]

If Notre Dame played relevant teams from all the conferences, it would be far more impressive IMO.

How do you determine relevant teams in all conferences?

Schedules are planned many years in advance.

OSU may not be a conference top dog 2-3 years down the road.

Then the problem with a filtered Bowl playoff.
What happens if BYU or Fresno end up having an excellent year; should they get a shot?

They really should have all conference champions enter a playoff with free lancers to fill out the bracket based on record/SOS

 

[Ferzerp]

We ended up having to pay some crappy team a bunch of money to fill in at the last minute.

Do you play on the FSU football team?


Otherwise, you might be tying your identity to a sports team a little much

 

[smackababy]

How do you determine relevant teams in all conferences?

Schedules are planned many years in advance.

You're right, but in 2011, I knew Alabama would be a top dog in 2014. I knew Ohio State was going to be competitive. I knew U of Miami was still going to be a 90s memory. I know OSU has never won a national championship in football. Anyone who mildly pays attention to college football knows which teams are going to be good. Sure, a few might fall off, but there are still some pretty safe pics. Similar with NCAA basketball. I know that in 5 years, Duke is still going to be pretty good.

You can tell these, due to their recruiting and standings. Players want to go to the best schools and those schools want the best players to continue; it is all about money and good teams make more money.

 

[saratoga172]

You're right, but in 2011, I knew Alabama would be a top dog in 2014. I knew Ohio State was going to be competitive. I knew U of Miami was still going to be a 90s memory. I know OSU has never won a national championship in football. Anyone who mildly pays attention to college football knows which teams are going to be good. Sure, a few might fall off, but there are still some pretty safe pics. Similar with NCAA basketball. I know that in 5 years, Duke is still going to be pretty good.

You can tell these, due to their recruiting and standings. Players want to go to the best schools and those schools want the best players to continue; it is all about money and good teams make more money.

Hmmm...OSU has won 7 national titles in football...link. Most recently in 2002.

 

[Jadow]

ND probably wishes they'd joined the Big 10 a couple years ago. The conf would be much more fun with ND instead of rutgers or md

 

[Drako]

I know OSU has never won a national championship in football. Anyone who mildly pays attention to college football knows which teams are going to be good.

LOL, wow

 

[smackababy]

Hmmm...OSU has won 7 national titles in football...link. Most recently in 2002.

Sorry, meant Oklahoma State.

 

[Drako]

Sorry, meant Oklahoma State.

You sure it wasn't Oregon State.

 

[Pens1566]

yeah, good job basing an entire season around one game rather than the entire body of work, especially when that one game for OSU was as many wins ago as TCU/Baylor have in total, and was with a freshman QB with just 17 days of practicing with the starters.

you're delusional if you think OSU is the same team that lost to VT

Is it the same team that needed OT to beat a lousy Penn St. team? The Wisconsin game isn't that impressive when you think about it. They're a power running team (one dimensional) that got down early. No coming back from that. This is also a Wisconsin team that lost to Northwestern as well.

I've watched all 3 of OSU, TCU, and Baylor this season. By far the most complete team, the most consistent of the 3 was TCU. They had a bad 8 minute stretch in the 4th quarter against Baylor at Baylor, losing by 3. That difference is effectively what odds makers give a home team just because it's a home game. At a neutral site, they will beat Baylor and they will beat OSU. They didn't get worked over at home by a shitty VT. Somewhere in the middle is Baylor losing to WVU.

 

[smackababy]

You sure it wasn't Oregon State.

I was making a jab at FSU actually scheduling Oklahoma State as an OOC game and people acting as if they were some kind of top team. They didn't even finish in the top 25 in 2013 and in 2012 they were 17. If you're going to schedule a Big 12 team and don't want to be criticized, OSU isn't the team to pick.

 

[Bob the Coder]

Columbus of Ohio here and a moderately avid fan of the Bucks, and I have to agree with Pens - Ohio State's loss should have prevented them from making it into the playoffs. Sure we can argue that it was a different team (and in all fairness, it was), but then we need to start making all sorts of concessions/excuses for other loses, as well. I also agree that the Wisconsin win was not nearly as impressive as it looks on its face. They weren't firing on all cylinders to say the least, and the elephant in the room is that W is still a Big 10 team.

 

[SP33Demon]

How do you determine relevant teams in all conferences?

Schedules are planned many years in advance.

OSU may not be a conference top dog 2-3 years down the road.

Then the problem with a filtered Bowl playoff.
What happens if BYU or Fresno end up having an excellent year; should they get a shot?

They really should have all conference champions enter a playoff with free lancers to fill out the bracket based on record/SOS

I like that (bolded) idea.

 

[Drako]

... and the elephant in the room is that W is still a Big 10 team.

What does this even mean? Wisky should not be in the B1G?

 

[Childs]

I was making a jab at FSU actually scheduling Oklahoma State as an OOC game and people acting as if they were some kind of top team. They didn't even finish in the top 25 in 2013 and in 2012 they were 17. If you're going to schedule a Big 12 team and don't want to be criticized, OSU isn't the team to pick.

They scheduled the game in 2012. Oklahoma State final BCS rankings since 2008:

2013 #13
2012 NR
2011 #3
2010 #14
2009 #19
2008 #13

FSU:

2013 #1
2012 #12
2011 NR
2010 #23
2009 NR
2008 NR

Oklahoma State has been better for longer recently, and it was actually a good game for FSU to schedule. Neither team was ranked from 2006 and 2007. 2005 was the next year FSU was ranked, and that was the last of the Bowden ranked teams. Prior to that is the FSU most people think of, but OSU is also in the top 25 during that era as well.

If you scheduled OSU in the last 5 years, you would assume they'll be a ranked team in a decent conference. It would be like scheduling Oklahoma, Texas or Florida 4 years ago and finding out this year they are not in the top 25.

 

[Bob the Coder]

What does this even mean? Wisky should not be in the B1G?

It meas the Big 10 is the Big 10

 

[zinfamous]

I think it needs a minimum of 6 teams, with #1 and #2 teams bye for quarterfinals. Now, I think that this is generally better than 8 teams (really, the top 6 teams should, in theory, eliminate the debate that tends to go in year to year which usually revolves around the top 3, and sometimes top 4 or 5).

8 without a bye is fine, as it ensures that the championship game teams play an equal amount of playoff games, to silence the complainers about game number advantage or disadvantage.

As far as lengthening the college season, I don't think the issue is so much about total number of games, but the fact that additional playoff games would occur during Finals period in class.....oh wait, lol. nevermind.

As if that matters to these goons.

 

[Fingolfin269]

I was making a jab at FSU actually scheduling Oklahoma State as an OOC game and people acting as if they were some kind of top team. They didn't even finish in the top 25 in 2013 and in 2012 they were 17. If you're going to schedule a Big 12 team and don't want to be criticized, OSU isn't the team to pick.

Did you know that teams aren't able to just pick other teams to put on their schedule?

 

[Ferzerp]

See, now isn't everyone glad the title game isn't FSU getting exposed by whoever they had to play against? (Ok, that would have been funny, but that happened a few years ago with ND already)

 

[boomhower]

I thought the B1G was weak and over rated and Ohio State didn't beat any good teams? (yes run on sentence) Whisky over Auburn and MSU over Baylor. Nope, Ohio State didn't even belong in the playoffs. TCU deserved it over FSU. You can't take FSU out of it, they won out so they belong.

I'm in the 6 team version camp. Power 5 champs and one outsider. That gets you everyone that truly deserves a shot at the championship.

**Die hard Ohio State fan.

Just a small edit, Ohio State over Alabama added to the list. Granted even as a die hard Ohio State fan I think Oregon is going to blow them out, they are just on a different level than everyone else. The fact they did this with a second string QB most of the season and a third string QB in the last two games is just insane.

 

[Jadow]

the OSU qb looks 50 years old

 

[postmortemIA]

I thought the B1G was weak and over rated and Ohio State didn't beat any good teams? (yes run on sentence) Whisky over Auburn and MSU over Baylor. Nope, Ohio State didn't even belong in the playoffs. TCU deserved it over FSU. You can't take FSU out of it, they won out so they belong.

I'm in the 6 team version camp. Power 5 champs and one outsider. That gets you everyone that truly deserves a shot at the championship.

**Die hard Ohio State fan.

Yep 6 teams is the right recipe. 2 bye, other 4 play extra game.

congrats on the win, what a great game.

 

[smackababy]

That was quite a beating FSU took, but was expected. Unfortunately, the other game, while being good, just solidifies that Oregon is going to win the national championship. Alabama played terrible and OSU took advantage of it. They won't get that kind of play against Oregon though.

 

[boomhower]

That was quite a beating FSU took, but was expected. Unfortunately, the other game, while being good, just solidifies that Oregon is going to win the national championship. Alabama played terrible and OSU took advantage of it. They won't get that kind of play against Oregon though.

Hopefully they are anointed by Arizona. Even as a Bucks fan that's their best hope. They are just on a different level.