college football..

[cmdavid]

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: cmdavid

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: cmdavid

Originally posted by: Feldenak
Auburn is a better team than Miami. The Canes have been unimpressive all season. Their only convincing wins came against sub-par opponents (I think the FSU team that's playing right now could beat Miami). Auburn beat the defending co-national champs (who seem to be a bit schitzo this year) and UT in Neyland (a very tough place to play).

Miami's play has been lackluster pretty much all season while Auburn seems to be improving from week to week.

Auburn beat the defending co-national champs in a game that should have gone into overtime (auburn got two lucky breaks, a missed extra point by lsu, then a second extra point attempt to end the game).. besides, that, lsu has been less than impressive this year.. getting blown out by georgia, losing to auburn, and also should have lost to oregon state at the begininng of the season.. (3 extra missed points)...
i'll give auburn credit for taking it to UT at Neyland but Tenessee is another team that should have two losses this year.. (if you watched the fla/ten game you know what i'm talking about)...
and for you to say miami has been lackluster all season just isn't true.. they had two close games and the other three were blowouts.. both close games were with ranked opponents.. (one blowout against Ga Tech who will be ranked by the end of the season)...

2 lucky breaks against LSU? I'll give them 1 break (the penalty) but to say making the extra point after the penalty was a lucky break is just ignorant. Auburn missed it's first PAT in 209 attempts this past week.

Blowouts: LaTech...these guys are a perenial homecoming team for BCS conference teams, Houston...when's the last time Houston has been a power player?, GaTech...may be ranked by the end of the year...we'll see.

Miami has a decent team but be realistic. They've got a good defense, an irregular (at best) QB and a pretty good back (Gore?). I'll even give Miami the benefit of the doubt against FSU because that's a rivalry game so it should be close. But to believe that they are a better team (right now) than Auburn is just foolish. Auburn's got 2 fantastic RBs, a QB who seems to be clicking with his OC (better season stats than Jason White), a pretty good OL and a defense that hasn't given up a rushing touchdown yet.

the two lucky breaks are the extra point that LSU missed, and then the penalty that gave auburn a second chance... you must not have watched the game...

LSU's kicking game has been spotty for 2 years now. Them missing a PAT is nothing.

any team missing a PAT is a break for the other team...

 

[cmdavid]

Originally posted by: mpitts

None of this matters right now anyways. If Miami's D plays like they did against Louisville, they won't be undefeated for long.

you're right about that...

 

[Mill]

Auburn has played one close game, and it was against the defending national champs. No other game they've played has been close.

 

[sciencewhiz]

Both Dullard and Sagarin think Miami would win by 6 over Auburn on a neutral field.

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: sciencewhiz
Both Dullard and Sagarin think Miami would win by 6 over Auburn on a neutral field.

Dullard's first poll also had UT beating Auburn on a neutral field and that poll came out after UT got spanked at home by Auburn.

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: abracadabra1

Originally posted by: Excelsior

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
ESPN's College Gameday crew will be at the NC State vs. Miami game in Raleigh this coming weekend.

They will likely see the Canes get their first "L" of the season. They can forget scoring 40+ pts on the Wolfpack defense.

Whoa dude..don't say sh!t like that. Might jinx it.

jinx nothing. miami will not lose against nc state. the only team that stands a chance is viriginia and maybe virginia tech.

Virginia? are you on fvcking crack? IIRC, Virginia lost 39-3 to FSU, and we beat VT who is very unimpressive. Talk about something you understand.

 

[BigJelly]

Originally posted by: saxguy

Originally posted by: Ausm
You guys are all messed up!!

Number 1 should be the badgers

W0000000H00000!




Ausm

:thumbsup:

more like goal posts are going down next week if we win--but they are suppose to be indestructible to college drunks (we tried last year ).

 

[Balt]

Originally posted by: cmdavid

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: cmdavid

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: cmdavid

Originally posted by: Feldenak
Auburn is a better team than Miami. The Canes have been unimpressive all season. Their only convincing wins came against sub-par opponents (I think the FSU team that's playing right now could beat Miami). Auburn beat the defending co-national champs (who seem to be a bit schitzo this year) and UT in Neyland (a very tough place to play).

Miami's play has been lackluster pretty much all season while Auburn seems to be improving from week to week.

Auburn beat the defending co-national champs in a game that should have gone into overtime (auburn got two lucky breaks, a missed extra point by lsu, then a second extra point attempt to end the game).. besides, that, lsu has been less than impressive this year.. getting blown out by georgia, losing to auburn, and also should have lost to oregon state at the begininng of the season.. (3 extra missed points)...
i'll give auburn credit for taking it to UT at Neyland but Tenessee is another team that should have two losses this year.. (if you watched the fla/ten game you know what i'm talking about)...
and for you to say miami has been lackluster all season just isn't true.. they had two close games and the other three were blowouts.. both close games were with ranked opponents.. (one blowout against Ga Tech who will be ranked by the end of the season)...

2 lucky breaks against LSU? I'll give them 1 break (the penalty) but to say making the extra point after the penalty was a lucky break is just ignorant. Auburn missed it's first PAT in 209 attempts this past week.

Blowouts: LaTech...these guys are a perenial homecoming team for BCS conference teams, Houston...when's the last time Houston has been a power player?, GaTech...may be ranked by the end of the year...we'll see.

Miami has a decent team but be realistic. They've got a good defense, an irregular (at best) QB and a pretty good back (Gore?). I'll even give Miami the benefit of the doubt against FSU because that's a rivalry game so it should be close. But to believe that they are a better team (right now) than Auburn is just foolish. Auburn's got 2 fantastic RBs, a QB who seems to be clicking with his OC (better season stats than Jason White), a pretty good OL and a defense that hasn't given up a rushing touchdown yet.

the two lucky breaks are the extra point that LSU missed, and then the penalty that gave auburn a second chance... you must not have watched the game...

LSU's kicking game has been spotty for 2 years now. Them missing a PAT is nothing.

any team missing a PAT is a break for the other team...

Then LSU got 3 or 4 breaks in their first game against Oregon State. How many easy field goals and PATs did that guy miss again?

 

[pecel]

PLAYOFF !!!!!

 

[Alkaline5]

Originally posted by: pecel
PLAYOFF !!!!!

Never gonna happen. The Bowl System is what makes 1-A football great (not to mention financially lucrative).

 

[CTrain]

Obviously all of you who thinks Auburn ahould be ahead of Miami do not have a clue on how college football works.
Fair or not, the preseason ranking are based on tradition, hype, previos year records and who's returning, etc....
Based on the tradition Miami always have had and last year 2 losses, they were ranked 5.
So what the hell have Auburn done the last 10 yrs ?? Last year, they were hyped up and was rewarded a #3 preseason ranking and they stunk it up by losing the first 2 games to USC and Georgia Tech.
They loss 5 games last year.
Rightfully so they were ranked #17 in preseason this year.

So both teams keep winning with Miami beating #5 FSU and #16 Louisville and Auburn beating #11 LSU and #16 Tennessee and all of the sudden the AP jumped Auburn ahead of Miami ??

Does that make sense to anyone ?? Not for people with common sense like myself.
And all the people that thinks Auburn should be ranked ahead of Miami are ignorant fools too.

As for people who thinks Auburn will beat Miami, hey they might but you will never know that until they play each other but don't tell me that Auburn should be ranked ahead of Miami.
And for all the fools that "think" FSU would beat Miami right now with Wyatt Earp, you can think all you want...you already had 6 chances in the last 5 yrs and you couldn't do it. Keep thinking that next yr.

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: CTrain
Obviously all of you who thinks Auburn ahould be ahead of Miami do not have a clue on how college football works.
Fair or not, the preseason ranking are based on tradition, hype, previos year records and who's returning, etc....
Based on the tradition Miami always have had and last year 2 losses, they were ranked 5.
So what the hell have Auburn done the last 10 yrs ?? Last year, they were hyped up and was rewarded a #3 preseason ranking and they stunk it up by losing the first 2 games to USC and Georgia Tech.
They loss 5 games last year.
Rightfully so they were ranked #17 in preseason this year.

So both teams keep winning with Miami beating #5 FSU and #16 Louisville and Auburn beating #11 LSU and #16 Tennessee and all of the sudden the AP jumped Auburn ahead of Miami ??

Does that make sense to anyone ?? Not for people with common sense like myself.
And all the people that thinks Auburn should be ranked ahead of Miami are ignorant fools too.

As for people who thinks Auburn will beat Miami, hey they might but you will never know that until they play each other but don't tell me that Auburn should be ranked ahead of Miami.
And for all the fools that "think" FSU would beat Miami right now with Wyatt Earp, you can think all you want...you already had 6 chances in the last 5 yrs and you couldn't do it. Keep thinking that next yr.

I'll be the first to admit that Auburn had a meltdown last year (I was really hoping Auburn would have a terrible year this year and we'd get a new head coach). I'm basing my opinions on what I've seen this year. If you want to go history, tradition, etc.... historically the SEC has been a tougher conference from top to bottom than the Big East (Yes, I know Miami is in the ACC this year). I have been thoroughly unimpressed by Miami's play this year. Their offense is shaky with a wild-armed QB and their defense just got shredded by Louisville. Auburn looks like a complete team to me...however, there's no team in the U.S. that can give away a game/season like Auburn can. IMO, you line Miami and Auburn up at a bowl game and Miami loses(this year).

 

[ActuaryTm]

Originally posted by: CTrain
Does that make sense to anyone ?? Not for people with common sense like myself.

Curious that such a comment comes from the same person creating this thread, then later this one.

 

[CTrain]

Originally posted by: ActuaryTm

Originally posted by: CTrain
Does that make sense to anyone ?? Not for people with common sense like myself.

Curious that such a comment comes from the same person creating this thread, then later this one.

So loaded up my car and spent a week driving 3100 miles....was really tired after I got to Cali....brought in most of my stuff but got my some stuff stolen so I have no common sense ??

So I did a stupid thing...I'd bet noone in this world have ever done a dumb thing before right ??
I guess only people who have never done a stupid thing have common sense...then I guess everyone in this world have no common sense then.
Yeah, you make alot of sense.

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: abracadabra1
jinx nothing. miami will not lose against nc state. the only team that stands a chance is viriginia and maybe virginia tech.

How do you figure that VT has a chance and NC State doesn't?? NC State completely stuffed VT's offense. Shut them down totally.
NC State has since discovered a QB, and our offense is getting progressively better.
We lost at UNC and to Ohio State because of turnovers (and over 100yds of penalties vs. OSU to go with 5 turnovers).

I'll say this: NC State has the best RB in the ACC, if not the country when he's healthy. If he is healthy, it will be a long night for the Canes defense.
Our defense is the best in the ACC, and will thump Berlin all night.
We do blitz a lot, so it is possible to get a receiver free for a big play now and then. Otherwise, Miami isn't going to move the ball that much.
The way for NC State to win this game is not turn the ball over. If we don't, we can most definitely win.
If neither team has turnovers, and it's a straight-up, penalty-free game, then I'd have to favor Miami slightly.
But don't be surprised to see the Wolfpack win Saturday night. This is Miami's best chance for a loss the rest of the season.

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: Mill
Auburn has played one close game, and it was against the defending national champs. No other game they've played has been close.

But the defending champs suck this year, so that win doesn't mean that much. Do they play Georgia or Florida?
If so, then we'll know whether they are for real or not.

 

[alexjohnson16]

The fact of the matter is none of the polls matter until the end of the season. There's still 7 weeks of football left and anything can happen.

Edit: Auburn is a a better team than Miami IMO, they spanked Tennessee in Knoxville, which isn't easy to do. Miami hasn't proven themselves to me yet. The FSU game wasn't enough evidence to prove to me that they are a excellent team this year. I'm unbiased being in the midwest.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: CTrain

Originally posted by: ActuaryTm

Originally posted by: CTrain
Does that make sense to anyone ?? Not for people with common sense like myself.

Curious that such a comment comes from the same person creating this thread, then later this one.

So loaded up my car and spent a week driving 3100 miles....was really tired after I got to Cali....brought in most of my stuff but got my some stuff stolen so I have no common sense ??

So I did a stupid thing...I'd bet noone in this world have ever done a dumb thing before right ??
I guess only people who have never done a stupid thing have common sense...then I guess everyone in this world have no common sense then.
Yeah, you make alot of sense.

You work at fscking McDonald's you asshat. Don't call me an ignorant fool. Anyone who has watched games from both teams can tell who the better team is. Polls are based on performance and not just how a team did last year, or whose d!ck the head coach sucked. :roll:

You are obviously not a college football fan in the slightest, but just another homer for your school. Miami does not currently deserve a top 5 ranking. Reason? Brock Berlin. He's been anything but consistent this year, and Miami doesn't have the usual talent at WR to help him out. Auburn's Defense has been better all year compared to Miami's. Same goes for their offense, and especially in the past few games(minus LSU).

There is no way to say Miami is better to Auburn without having a severe case of homerism going on. If you compare "who" they played, how they beat them, etc you can easily see who is better. For those that just look at scores with a glance and predicate an argument -- well you aren't a real fan.

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: Mill
Auburn has played one close game, and it was against the defending national champs. No other game they've played has been close.

But the defending champs suck this year, so that win doesn't mean that much. Do they play Georgia or Florida?
If so, then we'll know whether they are for real or not.

You mean the Florida and Georgia teams that lost to UT?

Yes, Auburn plays UGA:

The Deep South?s Oldest Rivalry
Auburn and Georgia. It began in Feb. 20, 1892 at Piedmont Park in Atlanta and has been played virtually every year since. The Tigers and the Bulldogs have played every year since 1898, 105 meetings, with the exception of 1943, when Auburn didn?t field a team due to World War II.

from here

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: Mill
Auburn has played one close game, and it was against the defending national champs. No other game they've played has been close.

But the defending champs suck this year, so that win doesn't mean that much. Do they play Georgia or Florida?
If so, then we'll know whether they are for real or not.

So you don't think beating UT at Neyland was a big win? Heck, they blew them out at their own stadium and I was there! How can you say a 7-0 team in the SEC is not for real? UT is the same team that then went down to Athens and exposed UGA for the frauds they are. Florida is not very good this year, and yes Auburn plays UGA the 2nd to last game of the season. Auburn has Kentucky, Ole Miss, Georgia, and Alabama left on their schedule.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: alexjohnson16
The fact of the matter is none of the polls matter until the end of the season. There's still 7 weeks of football left and anything can happen.

Edit: Auburn is a a better team than Miami IMO, they spanked Tennessee in Knoxville, which isn't easy to do. Miami hasn't proven themselves to me yet. The FSU game wasn't enough evidence to prove to me that they are a excellent team this year. I'm unbiased being in the midwest.

You just touched on the gist of my entire argument. Miami hasn't proven anything, except that they can barely win against a CUSA opponent at home. Sure, Louisville is no slouch, and I'd never say they were, however, Miami was at HOME and they are a MID-MAJOR team. If Miami was this stellar ungodly team they would have hung 70 on them.

 

[sciencewhiz]

Specifically, Auburn will play Georgia at home on Nov 13 with a week off before it to prepare. Then they will play either Georgia or Tennessee again for the SEC championship.

They probably won't play Florida who is only 2-2 in the SEC, unless Tennessee loses again and they beat Georgia. Even then, Florida would have to be lucky because Georgia would probably be ranked higher in the BCS and would win the 3 way tie.

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: sciencewhiz
Specifically, Auburn will play Georgia at home on Nov 13 with a week off before it to prepare. Then they will play either Georgia or Tennessee again for the SEC championship.

They probably won't play Florida who is only 2-2 in the SEC, unless Tennessee loses again and they beat Georgia. Even then, Florida would have to be lucky because Georgia would probably be ranked higher in the BCS and would win the 3 way tie.

UF won't make it to the SEC Championship. Auburn has a virtual lock on the West while UT controls their own destiny (tiebreakers against both UF and UGA).

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: alexjohnson16
The fact of the matter is none of the polls matter until the end of the season. There's still 7 weeks of football left and anything can happen.

Edit: Auburn is a a better team than Miami IMO, they spanked Tennessee in Knoxville, which isn't easy to do. Miami hasn't proven themselves to me yet. The FSU game wasn't enough evidence to prove to me that they are a excellent team this year. I'm unbiased being in the midwest.

You just touched on the gist of my entire argument. Miami hasn't proven anything, except that they can barely win against a CUSA opponent at home. Sure, Louisville is no slouch, and I'd never say they were, however, Miami was at HOME and they are a MID-MAJOR team. If Miami was this stellar ungodly team they would have hung 70 on them.

Exactly.

 

[Parrotheader]

I'm an Alabama fan and alum, but even I can admit that Auburn is probably playing better than anybody in the country right now (with the possible exception of USC.) They haven't had a bad or 'off' performance yet and appear to be firing on all cylinders. No major injuries, surprisingly great QB play, the best backfield in the country and a very strong defense should keep them going. Unless they have a sudden slew of critical injuries or finally happen to have an off game in one of their last 3 games (Georgia, Alabama and the SEC Championship) it's hard to see them losing the way they've been playing all season long. Obviously, I'm hoping they come back to earth in time for the Iron Bowl.

It's splitting hairs at this point though. There's still a long way to go and if USC and Oklahoma manage to stay undefeated we might get a chance to see Auburn and Miami tee it up anyway.