college football..

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: Parrotheader
I'm an Alabama fan and alum, but even I can admit that Auburn is probably playing better than anybody in the country right now (with the possible exception of USC.) They haven't had a bad or 'off' performance yet and appear to be firing on all cylinders. No major injuries, surprisingly great QB play, the best backfield in the country and a very strong defense should keep them going. Unless they have a sudden slew of critical injuries or finally happen to have an off game in one of their last 3 games (Georgia, Alabama and the SEC Championship) it's hard to see them losing the way they've been playing all season long. Obviously, I'm hoping they come back to earth in time for the Iron Bowl.

It's splitting hairs at this point though. There's still a long way to go and if USC and Oklahoma manage to stay undefeated we might get a chance to see Auburn and Miami tee it up anyway.

Well, Auburn is due for a hangover game...I hope it's this week vs. UK. I'm just wondering where this version of Jason Campbell has been hiding.

Jason Campbell
Comp/Att: 92/136
Yards: 1363
Comp %: 67.6
YDS/Att: 10.02
TD: 13
INT: 2
Rating: 180.4 Rating

I know he's been spotty the previous years but those kinds of numbers should be getting some Heisman noise.

Jason White's stats for comparison

Jason White
Comp/Att: 101/153
Yards: 1228
Comp %: 66.0
YDS/Att: 8.03
TD: 13
INT: 4
Rating: 156.2

 

[HomeBrewerDude]

Originally posted by: MogulMonster

Originally posted by: Ausm
You guys are all messed up!!

Number 1 should be the badgers

W0000000H00000!




Ausm

Its a possibility, if Purdue beats Michigan this week.

WOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOO!!!! Go Badgers!

Even if UW ends up being the only undefeated team it isn't likely that UW would get to the national championship. The media and the BCS are way too biased towards big offense for the that to happen.

 

[sciencewhiz]

Originally posted by: HomeBrewerDude
Even if UW ends up being the only undefeated team it isn't likely that UW would get to the national championship. The media and the BCS are way too biased towards big offense for the that to happen.

Ohio State, 2002.

Currently, Wisconsin is ranked higher in the polls (which take into account Margin Of Victory) then the are in the computers (which completely ignore MOV).

 

[alexjohnson16]

Wisconsin lucks out because they missed Michigan this year...

The biggest problem they have to look at is traveling to Iowa and facing the Hawks at Kinnick...

I think that will be the one blemish on their regular season record this year...

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: Mill
Auburn has played one close game, and it was against the defending national champs. No other game they've played has been close.

But the defending champs suck this year, so that win doesn't mean that much. Do they play Georgia or Florida?
If so, then we'll know whether they are for real or not.

So you don't think beating UT at Neyland was a big win? Heck, they blew them out at their own stadium and I was there! How can you say a 7-0 team in the SEC is not for real? UT is the same team that then went down to Athens and exposed UGA for the frauds they are. Florida is not very good this year, and yes Auburn plays UGA the 2nd to last game of the season. Auburn has Kentucky, Ole Miss, Georgia, and Alabama left on their schedule.

Tennessee isn't that good. Until they can beat the ACC's 3rd best team, (got their asses handed to them by Maryland and Clemson 2 years straight in the Peach Bowl), they just aren't the UT of old.
Sure, beating them at Neyland is tougher than beating them at your own house, but it doesn't mean as much as it used to.
Auburn is certainly good, but they've only played 2 decent team, and a bunch of cupcakes otherwise.
So in Auburn's case, no, 7-0 in the SEC isn't that good.
Auburn's schedule so far:
Louisiana-Monroe...pitiful
Mississippi State...pitiful
LSU...decent, but not very good this year.
The Citadel....pitiful
UT....good team. Not great, but good.
Louisiana Tech...pitiful.
Arkansas....pitiful this year. Somehow, they managed to beat Alabama, who has also beaten absolutely nobody this year.

The SEC isn't that good, not this year.

So that's why Auburn isn't getting the respect, yet....they need to play more than 2-3 decent teams and 8 cupcakes.

 

[HomeBrewerDude]

Originally posted by: alexjohnson16
Wisconsin lucks out because they missed Michigan this year...

The biggest problem they have to look at is traveling to Iowa and facing the Hawks at Kinnick...

I think that will be the one blemish on their regular season record this year...

UW lucks out getting Purdue and Ohio (granted Ohio has absolutely crumbled)? go figure.... its Michigan's offense that has lucked out.

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Jason Campbell
Comp/Att: 92/136
Yards: 1363
Comp %: 67.6
YDS/Att: 10.02
TD: 13
INT: 2
Rating: 180.4 Rating

I know he's been spotty the previous years but those kinds of numbers should be getting some Heisman noise.

Jason White's stats for comparison

Jason White
Comp/Att: 101/153
Yards: 1228
Comp %: 66.0
YDS/Att: 8.03
TD: 13
INT: 4
Rating: 156.2

Maybe if he put up those numbers against more than one decent team, or had more than ONE 300 yd passing game, he'd be Heisman material.
There doesn't seem to be any real firepower at QB this year. More of a running back and wide receiver year.

 

[alexjohnson16]

I think the Big Ten should have enough conference weeks to where everyone faces everyone... Give teams one nonconference week to get ready and than get the Big Ten season moving...

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: alexjohnson16
I think the Big Ten should have enough conference weeks to where everyone faces everyone... Give teams one nonconference week to get ready and than get the Big Ten season moving...

It's time for the Big 10 to add a conference championship game.

 

[CTrain]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: CTrain

Originally posted by: ActuaryTm

Originally posted by: CTrain
Does that make sense to anyone ?? Not for people with common sense like myself.

Curious that such a comment comes from the same person creating this thread, then later this one.

So loaded up my car and spent a week driving 3100 miles....was really tired after I got to Cali....brought in most of my stuff but got my some stuff stolen so I have no common sense ??

So I did a stupid thing...I'd bet noone in this world have ever done a dumb thing before right ??
I guess only people who have never done a stupid thing have common sense...then I guess everyone in this world have no common sense then.
Yeah, you make alot of sense.

You work at fscking McDonald's you asshat. Don't call me an ignorant fool. Anyone who has watched games from both teams can tell who the better team is. Polls are based on performance and not just how a team did last year, or whose d!ck the head coach sucked. :roll:

You are obviously not a college football fan in the slightest, but just another homer for your school. Miami does not currently deserve a top 5 ranking. Reason? Brock Berlin. He's been anything but consistent this year, and Miami doesn't have the usual talent at WR to help him out. Auburn's Defense has been better all year compared to Miami's. Same goes for their offense, and especially in the past few games(minus LSU).

There is no way to say Miami is better to Auburn without having a severe case of homerism going on. If you compare "who" they played, how they beat them, etc you can easily see who is better. For those that just look at scores with a glance and predicate an argument -- well you aren't a real fan.

So now you're resorting to personal attack ?? During when in this thread that I personally attack anyone ??
FVCK OFF dickface. You ain't better than anyone else.
While its not an ideal career choice, I still make roughly $45K a year(in Florida nontherless) which is more than enough for a comfortable living. Alot of people here would be estatic to be making that much.
And its not like I'm uneducated either, I already graduated with an accouting degree.

So fvck off Mr. Almighty.
If I remembered correctly, you're the dipsh!t that complained about someone reclining their seat on an airplane. Helllllllloooooooo.....its their right to. Don't like it ? Buy a ticket in first class.


As for not understanding college football, you're the @sshat that doesn't understand it.
1) Voters come up with a preseason polls.
2) If you keep on winning, teams usually will not jump you in the poll.
3) Only under extreme circumstance will a team jump another team without that team losing.
In this case Miami have beaten a #5 and #16. Auburn beat a #11 and #16 team.
4) Theres absolutely no reason why Auburn should jump over Miami in this case.
5) Fair or not, this is how college polls have worked for years.

 

[cmdavid]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: alexjohnson16
The fact of the matter is none of the polls matter until the end of the season. There's still 7 weeks of football left and anything can happen.

Edit: Auburn is a a better team than Miami IMO, they spanked Tennessee in Knoxville, which isn't easy to do. Miami hasn't proven themselves to me yet. The FSU game wasn't enough evidence to prove to me that they are a excellent team this year. I'm unbiased being in the midwest.

You just touched on the gist of my entire argument. Miami hasn't proven anything, except that they can barely win against a CUSA opponent at home. Sure, Louisville is no slouch, and I'd never say they were, however, Miami was at HOME and they are a MID-MAJOR team. If Miami was this stellar ungodly team they would have hung 70 on them.

who has usc played? cal? pshh.. cal is overrated and usc still almost lost to them... and we say that miami barely beat a #16 ranked team at home, well usc barely beat an unranked stanford team...
who has oklahoma played? texas? sure they beat texas, the most overrated team in college football.. year in they're ranked in the top 5 and year out they're ranked out of the top 15... they almost lost to ark this year, they should have... then they pull a close game with an unranked KSU team..
Who has auburn played? UT at Neyland.. big whoop.. Tennessee is a team that should already have two losses this year and not even be ranked in the top 20... besides that, auburn has played NOBODY...
At least Miami has beaten the highest ranking team with one loss in the country.. Year in and year out FSU is ranked in the top 6 by the end of the season, and year in and year out miami has to play them and beat them... miami is still is undefeated, and their defense didn't give up an offensive touchdown (they gave up one off. touchdown to Houston, although it was only a 20 yd drive) until they folded against louisville.... so they had a close game against a RANKED opponent (not like usc's close game against an unranked opponent), and they lose spots? thats just a joke...
another questoin about the AP Poll, i'm not sure if you noticed that Louisville actually moved UP in the rankings this week from last week.. for a team to move UP after a loss, usually means that their opponent is that good.. it doesnt make any sense that miami DROPPED in the rankings and lousville MOVED UP, even though miami won....

 

[Slap]

I like how all the Miami fans are bashing UT saying an Auburn win over them means nothing. This is the same UT team that beat Miami last year when Winslow was a so called "soldier". From the way I see it, Miami couldn't beat UT this year much less Auburn.

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: Slap
I like how all the Miami fans are bashing UT saying an Auburn win over them means nothing. This is the same UT team that beat Miami last year when Winslow was a so called "soldier". From the way I see it, Miami couldn't beat UT this year much less Auburn.

That's because Miami fans don't really understand how a tough conference works.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: cmdavid

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: alexjohnson16
The fact of the matter is none of the polls matter until the end of the season. There's still 7 weeks of football left and anything can happen.

Edit: Auburn is a a better team than Miami IMO, they spanked Tennessee in Knoxville, which isn't easy to do. Miami hasn't proven themselves to me yet. The FSU game wasn't enough evidence to prove to me that they are a excellent team this year. I'm unbiased being in the midwest.

You just touched on the gist of my entire argument. Miami hasn't proven anything, except that they can barely win against a CUSA opponent at home. Sure, Louisville is no slouch, and I'd never say they were, however, Miami was at HOME and they are a MID-MAJOR team. If Miami was this stellar ungodly team they would have hung 70 on them.

who has usc played? cal? pshh.. cal is overrated and usc still almost lost to them... and we say that miami barely beat a #16 ranked team at home, well usc barely beat an unranked stanford team...
who has oklahoma played? texas? sure they beat texas, the most overrated team in college football.. year in they're ranked in the top 5 and year out they're ranked out of the top 15... they almost lost to ark this year, they should have... then they pull a close game with an unranked KSU team..
Who has auburn played? UT at Neyland.. big whoop.. Tennessee is a team that should already have two losses this year and not even be ranked in the top 20... besides that, auburn has played NOBODY...
At least Miami has beaten the highest ranking team with one loss in the country.. Year in and year out FSU is ranked in the top 6 by the end of the season, and year in and year out miami has to play them and beat them... miami is still is undefeated, and their defense didn't give up an offensive touchdown (they gave up one off. touchdown to Houston, although it was only a 20 yd drive) until they folded against louisville.... so they had a close game against a RANKED opponent (not like usc's close game against an unranked opponent), and they lose spots? thats just a joke...
another questoin about the AP Poll, i'm not sure if you noticed that Louisville actually moved UP in the rankings this week from last week.. for a team to move UP after a loss, usually means that their opponent is that good.. it doesnt make any sense that miami DROPPED in the rankings and lousville MOVED UP, even though miami won....

How do you figure that Cal and Texas are overrated because they lost a rivarly game?

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: CTrain

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: CTrain

Originally posted by: ActuaryTm

Originally posted by: CTrain
Does that make sense to anyone ?? Not for people with common sense like myself.

Curious that such a comment comes from the same person creating this thread, then later this one.

So loaded up my car and spent a week driving 3100 miles....was really tired after I got to Cali....brought in most of my stuff but got my some stuff stolen so I have no common sense ??

So I did a stupid thing...I'd bet noone in this world have ever done a dumb thing before right ??
I guess only people who have never done a stupid thing have common sense...then I guess everyone in this world have no common sense then.
Yeah, you make alot of sense.

You work at fscking McDonald's you asshat. Don't call me an ignorant fool. Anyone who has watched games from both teams can tell who the better team is. Polls are based on performance and not just how a team did last year, or whose d!ck the head coach sucked. :roll:

You are obviously not a college football fan in the slightest, but just another homer for your school. Miami does not currently deserve a top 5 ranking. Reason? Brock Berlin. He's been anything but consistent this year, and Miami doesn't have the usual talent at WR to help him out. Auburn's Defense has been better all year compared to Miami's. Same goes for their offense, and especially in the past few games(minus LSU).

There is no way to say Miami is better to Auburn without having a severe case of homerism going on. If you compare "who" they played, how they beat them, etc you can easily see who is better. For those that just look at scores with a glance and predicate an argument -- well you aren't a real fan.

So now you're resorting to personal attack ?? During when in this thread that I personally attack anyone ??
FVCK OFF dickface. You ain't better than anyone else.
While its not an ideal career choice, I still make roughly $45K a year(in Florida nontherless) which is more than enough for a comfortable living. Alot of people here would be estatic to be making that much.
And its not like I'm uneducated either, I already graduated with an accouting degree.

So fvck off Mr. Almighty.
If I remembered correctly, you're the dipsh!t that complained about someone reclining their seat on an airplane. Helllllllloooooooo.....its their right to. Don't like it ? Buy a ticket in first class.


As for not understanding college football, you're the @sshat that doesn't understand it.
1) Voters come up with a preseason polls.
2) If you keep on winning, teams usually will not jump you in the poll.
3) Only under extreme circumstance will a team jump another team without that team losing.
In this case Miami have beaten a #5 and #16. Auburn beat a #11 and #16 team.
4) Theres absolutely no reason why Auburn should jump over Miami in this case.
5) Fair or not, this is how college polls have worked for years.

People in glass houses shouldn't call other people ignorant fools. First of all, I do not care how much you make a year. Secondly, I fail to see what a complaint about an airline has to do with a thread about college football. If you actually think that hurts my feelings, well, then you are defintely a shoe-in at Micky D's. I don't care about any degree you have or anything of that nature. You are the one who started calling people "ignorant fools" for thinking that Miami was overrated.

You are so biased that you aren't listening to the neutral fans that all say Miami should not be ahead of Auburn. Auburn's only close game came against a major rival who was the defending National Champion. Other than that they've played solid and they don't have any major question marks at any position. Did Coker not sit Berlin some this year? Has he not been maligned all year for his inconsistency? Not having consistency at QB is not going to allow you to be ranked number 1 in the nation. I certainly think that Miami and FSU are *both* overrated teams this year. Other than playing each other, neither team has really played a challenging team. Well, you could say Virginia was challenging, but the ACC always has one fluke team that everyone thinks is awesome, and then Bowden goes and exposes them. Miami is not as good as Auburn. Our defense is rated better and has been all season. Our Offense is more consistent, has a better QB, and has two of the best back in the country. Our WRs have now come into their own and are some of the best in the SEC. Berlin is a Zook reject, yet some people think he's God. He's not a good QB.

Oklahoma - Consistent QB
USC- Same
Auburn - Same
Miami - Nope
FSU - Nope

 

[kalster]

Originally posted by: cmdavid

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: alexjohnson16
The fact of the matter is none of the polls matter until the end of the season. There's still 7 weeks of football left and anything can happen.

Edit: Auburn is a a better team than Miami IMO, they spanked Tennessee in Knoxville, which isn't easy to do. Miami hasn't proven themselves to me yet. The FSU game wasn't enough evidence to prove to me that they are a excellent team this year. I'm unbiased being in the midwest.

You just touched on the gist of my entire argument. Miami hasn't proven anything, except that they can barely win against a CUSA opponent at home. Sure, Louisville is no slouch, and I'd never say they were, however, Miami was at HOME and they are a MID-MAJOR team. If Miami was this stellar ungodly team they would have hung 70 on them.

who has usc played? cal? pshh.. cal is overrated and usc still almost lost to them... and we say that miami barely beat a #16 ranked team at home, well usc barely beat an unranked stanford team...
who has oklahoma played? texas? sure they beat texas, the most overrated team in college football.. year in they're ranked in the top 5 and year out they're ranked out of the top 15... they almost lost to ark this year, they should have... then they pull a close game with an unranked KSU team..
Who has auburn played? UT at Neyland.. big whoop.. Tennessee is a team that should already have two losses this year and not even be ranked in the top 20... besides that, auburn has played NOBODY...
At least Miami has beaten the highest ranking team with one loss in the country.. Year in and year out FSU is ranked in the top 6 by the end of the season, and year in and year out miami has to play them and beat them... miami is still is undefeated, and their defense didn't give up an offensive touchdown (they gave up one off. touchdown to Houston, although it was only a 20 yd drive) until they folded against louisville.... so they had a close game against a RANKED opponent (not like usc's close game against an unranked opponent), and they lose spots? thats just a joke...
another questoin about the AP Poll, i'm not sure if you noticed that Louisville actually moved UP in the rankings this week from last week.. for a team to move UP after a loss, usually means that their opponent is that good.. it doesnt make any sense that miami DROPPED in the rankings and lousville MOVED UP, even though miami won....

cal is not over rated by any means, and asu (i agree a bit overrated) but they are ranked, and they did complete destroy iowa and were undefeated till they got destroyed by sc

miami did beat fsu but the first game was really dirty, both teams played really badly, fsu has improved, for sure (although they shud have lost to orangemen, but they did pull it off, good teams manage to win when they are not playing their best)

also cal just dropped only 1 spot after loosing to sc (which is another indication they arent (and werent) overrated by any means),

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Slap
I like how all the Miami fans are bashing UT saying an Auburn win over them means nothing. This is the same UT team that beat Miami last year when Winslow was a so called "soldier". From the way I see it, Miami couldn't beat UT this year much less Auburn.

That's because Miami fans don't really understand how a tough conference works.

They'll understand after a couple of years in the ACC, which is now the premier football AND basketball conference.
UT already knows, because they have been totally butt-raped by Maryland and Clemson the past 2 years, by a total of 57-17. And the Peach bowl has the 3rd pick from the ACC.

 

[Balt]

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Slap
I like how all the Miami fans are bashing UT saying an Auburn win over them means nothing. This is the same UT team that beat Miami last year when Winslow was a so called "soldier". From the way I see it, Miami couldn't beat UT this year much less Auburn.

That's because Miami fans don't really understand how a tough conference works.

They'll understand after a couple of years in the ACC, which is now the premier football AND basketball conference.
UT already knows, because they have been totally butt-raped by Maryland and Clemson the past 2 years, by a total of 57-17. And the Peach bowl has the 3rd pick from the ACC.

:thumbsup:

The ACC is almost *too* tough now. The days of FSU absolutely dominating it (in football) may be over. VT and Miami will get their fair share of conference titles.

As for basketball, there is no doubt. UNC, Duke, Maryland, etc. FSU never stood a chance in that sport.

People in glass houses shouldn't call other people ignorant fools. First of all, I do not care how much you make a year. Secondly, I fail to see what a complaint about an airline has to do with a thread about college football. If you actually think that hurts my feelings, well, then you are defintely a shoe-in at Micky D's. I don't care about any degree you have or anything of that nature. You are the one who started calling people "ignorant fools" for thinking that Miami was overrated.

You are so biased that you aren't listening to the neutral fans that all say Miami should not be ahead of Auburn. Auburn's only close game came against a major rival who was the defending National Champion. Other than that they've played solid and they don't have any major question marks at any position. Did Coker not sit Berlin some this year? Has he not been maligned all year for his inconsistency? Not having consistency at QB is not going to allow you to be ranked number 1 in the nation. I certainly think that Miami and FSU are *both* overrated teams this year. Other than playing each other, neither team has really played a challenging team. Well, you could say Virginia was challenging, but the ACC always has one fluke team that everyone thinks is awesome, and then Bowden goes and exposes them. Miami is not as good as Auburn. Our defense is rated better and has been all season. Our Offense is more consistent, has a better QB, and has two of the best back in the country. Our WRs have now come into their own and are some of the best in the SEC. Berlin is a Zook reject, yet some people think he's God. He's not a good QB.

Oklahoma - Consistent QB
USC- Same
Auburn - Same
Miami - Nope
FSU - Nope

FSU is not a team you should underestimate right now. Our defense will always keep the game close, and unlike in the days of Rix, our new QB doesn't have a habit of throwing interceptions easily returned for touchdowns. I'm not saying we deserve to be ranked higher than we are, but if Auburn should end up facing us in a bowl game they better come to play.

If Sexton continues to perform as he has been, I think we've got a realistic shot at a national championship in the next two seasons. Won't happen this year, though.

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Slap
I like how all the Miami fans are bashing UT saying an Auburn win over them means nothing. This is the same UT team that beat Miami last year when Winslow was a so called "soldier". From the way I see it, Miami couldn't beat UT this year much less Auburn.

That's because Miami fans don't really understand how a tough conference works.

They'll understand after a couple of years in the ACC, which is now the premier football AND basketball conference.
UT already knows, because they have been totally butt-raped by Maryland and Clemson the past 2 years, by a total of 57-17. And the Peach bowl has the 3rd pick from the ACC.

SEC is still the premier football conference, ACC could be in basketball tho (this year), mainly because of Wake and Duke.

 

[Balt]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Slap
I like how all the Miami fans are bashing UT saying an Auburn win over them means nothing. This is the same UT team that beat Miami last year when Winslow was a so called "soldier". From the way I see it, Miami couldn't beat UT this year much less Auburn.

That's because Miami fans don't really understand how a tough conference works.

They'll understand after a couple of years in the ACC, which is now the premier football AND basketball conference.
UT already knows, because they have been totally butt-raped by Maryland and Clemson the past 2 years, by a total of 57-17. And the Peach bowl has the 3rd pick from the ACC.

SEC is still the premier football conference, ACC could be in basketball tho (this year), mainly because of Wake and Duke.

Well, the SEC is a very strong football conference, but they will always have a problem. On any given day, a high-ranked SEC team can visit an unranked SEC rivalry and lose (unless the home team is MSU ). That's true in every conference, but I believe even more so in the SEC. So from a standpoint of rankings, the SEC will usually not get the respect it deserves. At the moment they do have three teams in the top 10 of the BCS, though. With the addition of VT and Miami to the ACC (and the teams already there), I think the ACC has become a very tough football conference.

 

[Slap]

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Slap
I like how all the Miami fans are bashing UT saying an Auburn win over them means nothing. This is the same UT team that beat Miami last year when Winslow was a so called "soldier". From the way I see it, Miami couldn't beat UT this year much less Auburn.

That's because Miami fans don't really understand how a tough conference works.

They'll understand after a couple of years in the ACC, which is now the premier football AND basketball conference.
UT already knows, because they have been totally butt-raped by Maryland and Clemson the past 2 years, by a total of 57-17. And the Peach bowl has the 3rd pick from the ACC.

Not to make excuses for UT, but they thought they shouldn't be in the Peach Bowl the last two years. I think they didn't give a sh!t going into both of those games and it showed. They had personal fouls about every other play. Again, that is no excuse. If you look at the last time they played an ACC team in a BCS bowl, they beat FSU for the national championship when everybody said they didn't stand a chance.

 

[ActuaryTm]

Originally posted by: CTrain
So now you're resorting to personal attack ?? During when in this thread that I personally attack anyone ??

Have to agree that referring users who have a different opinion than yours as "ignorant fools" seems very much like a personal attack.

As stated recently in another NCAA football thread, the entire ranking system including the BCS is essentially based on collective personal opinion; ergo, in reality, the entire polling system is nothing more than an averaged opinion. Opinions can of course differ based on a number of factors, even from unbiased sources (one can imagine how much moreso from sources that are obviously quite biased, as evidenced in this thread). Even among the six computer rankings which in part form the BCS standings, a number of often divergent opinions exist. Billingsley comes to mind, as an example.

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Slap
I like how all the Miami fans are bashing UT saying an Auburn win over them means nothing. This is the same UT team that beat Miami last year when Winslow was a so called "soldier". From the way I see it, Miami couldn't beat UT this year much less Auburn.

That's because Miami fans don't really understand how a tough conference works.

They'll understand after a couple of years in the ACC, which is now the premier football AND basketball conference.
UT already knows, because they have been totally butt-raped by Maryland and Clemson the past 2 years, by a total of 57-17. And the Peach bowl has the 3rd pick from the ACC.

SEC is still the premier football conference, ACC could be in basketball tho (this year), mainly because of Wake and Duke.

Disagree. Top to bottom, the ACC is the best conference in football. Basketball isn't even debatable...the ACC has always been the best.
The SEC always likes to claim they're the best, and in the past the probably were....but the ACC generally has owned them in head to head matchups the last 10 years or so.
Also, the SEC teams are notorius for playing complete cupcake OOC schedules. That really doesn't help their case, since they usually never match up with any strong teams from other conferences on a regular basis.
Just look at Auburn's or Alabama's schedule. Absolutely pitiful. And they aren't the only ones who schedule weak.
So that is why Auburn isn't getting any respect. Part of it isn't their fault....they can't help it that LSU and UT are just average this year.
But they CAN do something about their pitiful non-conf. schedule. If they'd play somebody besides the Sisters of the Poor and the School of the Blind, they might get some respect.
Hell, there's enough cupcakes in the SEC (Vandy, MSU, Arkansas) to get a few easy wins every year.

 

[sciencewhiz]

Here are the rankings from a variety of sources for the 6 major conferences:

Anderson Hester:
#1 Big 12
#2 Pac-10
#3 ACC
#4 Big Ten
#5 SEC
#8 Big East

Colley:
#1 Big 12
#2 Big 10
#3 ACC
#4 Pac 10
#5 SEC
#6 Big East

Massey:
#1 Pac 10
#2 ACC
#3 Big 12
#4 SEC
#5 Big 10
#7 Big East

Sagarin:
#1 Pac 10
#2 ACC
#3 SEC
#4 Big 12
#5 Big 10
#7 Big East

RPI:

#1 Pac 10
#2 Big 12
#3 ACC
#5 SEC
#6 Big 10
#8 Big East

Avg BCS ranking:
#1 Big 12
#2 ACC
#3 SEC
#4 Big 10
#5 Pac 10
#7 Big East

Average of above rankings
2 Big 12
2.3 Pac 10
2.5 ACC
4.1 SEC
4.3 Big 10
7.2 Big East

Every single one has the ACC ahead of the SEC this year. It seems to be a tossup whether Big 12, Pac 10 or ACC is best. SEC and Big 10 are in the next tier and Big East probably shouldn't be a BCS conference.


Personally, I'd take the top 5 SEC teams against the top 5 of any other conference. However, there are more bad teams in the SEC then other conferences as well.

If I was pitting the top 1,2, or 3 teams of a conference against all other conferences, I'd choose the Pac 10 this year with the ACC second.

 

[Pacfanweb]

Heck, if you are talking the top 3 teams of each conference, I'll take the ACC over the Pac 10 for all the money.
After USC, who got all they could handle from Virginia Tech, who does the P10 have?

So, Miami plays USC....toss up.
Who can beat FSU, NC State, UVA or VT?
I wouldn't be afraid to pit any of those teams against USC, much less any other Pac 10 team.

Too bad there's no playoff. They could do it and still incorporate the bowls. Hopefully we'll have one at some point.