college football..

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Heck, if you are talking the top 3 teams of each conference, I'll take the ACC over the Pac 10 for all the money.
After USC, who got all they could handle from Virginia Tech, who does the P10 have?

So, Miami plays USC....toss up.
Who can beat FSU, NC State, UVA or VT?
I wouldn't be afraid to pit any of those teams against USC, much less any other Pac 10 team.

Too bad there's no playoff. They could do it and still incorporate the bowls. Hopefully we'll have one at some point.

Yeah..I wish they could at least have some type of playoff setup.

 

[BigPoppa]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Slap
I like how all the Miami fans are bashing UT saying an Auburn win over them means nothing. This is the same UT team that beat Miami last year when Winslow was a so called "soldier". From the way I see it, Miami couldn't beat UT this year much less Auburn.

That's because Miami fans don't really understand how a tough conference works.

They'll understand after a couple of years in the ACC, which is now the premier football AND basketball conference.
UT already knows, because they have been totally butt-raped by Maryland and Clemson the past 2 years, by a total of 57-17. And the Peach bowl has the 3rd pick from the ACC.

SEC is still the premier football conference, ACC could be in basketball tho (this year), mainly because of Wake and Duke.

Everyone likes to discount Georgia Tech for some reason. The ACC will dominate this season in basketball with GT, WF, Duke, NC State and UNC all having what it takes to go all the way.

Also, should check out GTs all-time football stats. Might suprise you. Reggie Ball's junior and senior years should be very respectable.

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: cmdavid

Originally posted by: fisher
miami never deserved to be number 3 imho. but that's just me.

maybe they should be ranked 6th or 7th? a spot or two behind the FSU team they've already beat...

Yeah Coker is retarded..thats why Miami always has a kickass team.

haha.. yeah i know what you're saying.. as arrogant as this may sound.. miami has had such good teams that coker's record of 40-3 and one nat'l championship isn't good enough...

I'm sorry but there would be no way that this Miami team could beat Florida State unless Rix was there to give them the game

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
ESPN's College Gameday crew will be at the NC State vs. Miami game in Raleigh this coming weekend.

They will likely see the Canes get their first "L" of the season. They can forget scoring 40+ pts on the Wolfpack defense.

Woah dude, state might have a kickass defense, but their offense is average at best....hmmm throw in Brock Berlin at Miami and they are pretty much equal :evil:

In order for them to win, the offensive coordinator must realize that we have the best running back in the conference and several others who would be stars on other teams and realize that Phillip Rivers is not behind center...Rush the ball, Mazzone. Rush the fricking pigskin

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
ESPN's College Gameday crew will be at the NC State vs. Miami game in Raleigh this coming weekend.

They will likely see the Canes get their first "L" of the season. They can forget scoring 40+ pts on the Wolfpack defense.

Woah dude, state might have a kickass defense, but their offense is average at best....hmmm throw in Brock Berlin at Miami and they are pretty much equal :evil:

In order for them to win, the offensive coordinator must realize that we have the best running back in the conference and several others who would be stars on other teams and realize that Phillip Rivers is not behind center...Rush the ball, Mazzone. Rush the fricking pigskin

I really don't like Mazzone. At all. We need a new offensive coordinator.

 

[CTrain]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: CTrain

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: CTrain

Originally posted by: ActuaryTm

Originally posted by: CTrain
Does that make sense to anyone ?? Not for people with common sense like myself.

Curious that such a comment comes from the same person creating this thread, then later this one.

So loaded up my car and spent a week driving 3100 miles....was really tired after I got to Cali....brought in most of my stuff but got my some stuff stolen so I have no common sense ??

So I did a stupid thing...I'd bet noone in this world have ever done a dumb thing before right ??
I guess only people who have never done a stupid thing have common sense...then I guess everyone in this world have no common sense then.
Yeah, you make alot of sense.

You work at fscking McDonald's you asshat. Don't call me an ignorant fool. Anyone who has watched games from both teams can tell who the better team is. Polls are based on performance and not just how a team did last year, or whose d!ck the head coach sucked. :roll:

You are obviously not a college football fan in the slightest, but just another homer for your school. Miami does not currently deserve a top 5 ranking. Reason? Brock Berlin. He's been anything but consistent this year, and Miami doesn't have the usual talent at WR to help him out. Auburn's Defense has been better all year compared to Miami's. Same goes for their offense, and especially in the past few games(minus LSU).

There is no way to say Miami is better to Auburn without having a severe case of homerism going on. If you compare "who" they played, how they beat them, etc you can easily see who is better. For those that just look at scores with a glance and predicate an argument -- well you aren't a real fan.

So now you're resorting to personal attack ?? During when in this thread that I personally attack anyone ??
FVCK OFF dickface. You ain't better than anyone else.
While its not an ideal career choice, I still make roughly $45K a year(in Florida nontherless) which is more than enough for a comfortable living. Alot of people here would be estatic to be making that much.
And its not like I'm uneducated either, I already graduated with an accouting degree.

So fvck off Mr. Almighty.
If I remembered correctly, you're the dipsh!t that complained about someone reclining their seat on an airplane. Helllllllloooooooo.....its their right to. Don't like it ? Buy a ticket in first class.


As for not understanding college football, you're the @sshat that doesn't understand it.
1) Voters come up with a preseason polls.
2) If you keep on winning, teams usually will not jump you in the poll.
3) Only under extreme circumstance will a team jump another team without that team losing.
In this case Miami have beaten a #5 and #16. Auburn beat a #11 and #16 team.
4) Theres absolutely no reason why Auburn should jump over Miami in this case.
5) Fair or not, this is how college polls have worked for years.

People in glass houses shouldn't call other people ignorant fools. First of all, I do not care how much you make a year. Secondly, I fail to see what a complaint about an airline has to do with a thread about college football. If you actually think that hurts my feelings, well, then you are defintely a shoe-in at Micky D's. I don't care about any degree you have or anything of that nature. You are the one who started calling people "ignorant fools" for thinking that Miami was overrated.

You are so biased that you aren't listening to the neutral fans that all say Miami should not be ahead of Auburn. Auburn's only close game came against a major rival who was the defending National Champion. Other than that they've played solid and they don't have any major question marks at any position. Did Coker not sit Berlin some this year? Has he not been maligned all year for his inconsistency? Not having consistency at QB is not going to allow you to be ranked number 1 in the nation. I certainly think that Miami and FSU are *both* overrated teams this year. Other than playing each other, neither team has really played a challenging team. Well, you could say Virginia was challenging, but the ACC always has one fluke team that everyone thinks is awesome, and then Bowden goes and exposes them. Miami is not as good as Auburn. Our defense is rated better and has been all season. Our Offense is more consistent, has a better QB, and has two of the best back in the country. Our WRs have now come into their own and are some of the best in the SEC. Berlin is a Zook reject, yet some people think he's God. He's not a good QB.

Oklahoma - Consistent QB
USC- Same
Auburn - Same
Miami - Nope
FSU - Nope

Generalizing is one thing(which is what I did) but when you personally attack someone "because he works at McDs and called him an @sshat" thats uncalled for.
So if I say ATOT is a bunch of @ssclowns, do you take that personally ?? Do you considered yourself an @ssclown ??
So if you don't considered yourslef "an ignorant fool" why do you need to attack someone personally ??

Anyway, no more comments from me.

 

[Alkaline5]

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Also, the SEC teams are notorius for playing complete cupcake OOC schedules. That really doesn't help their case, since they usually never match up with any strong teams from other conferences on a regular basis.
Just look at Auburn's or Alabama's schedule. Absolutely pitiful. And they aren't the only ones who schedule weak.
So that is why Auburn isn't getting any respect. Part of it isn't their fault....they can't help it that LSU and UT are just average this year.

So, Miami plays USC....toss up.
Who can beat FSU, NC State, UVA or VT?
I wouldn't be afraid to pit any of those teams against USC, much less any other Pac 10 team.

Please. You go on about SEC teams having cupcake schedules, but you include Virginia in a list of ACC greats? Virginia's out-of-conference opponents are Temple (even the Big East didn't want them), Akron, and Syracuse. And while we're talking about crappy schedules: FSUs opponents are UAB, Syracuse (who they almost lost to), and Florida (a talented but unpredictable SEC team). Miami's opponents are Louisiana Tech, Louisville (decent but the game was way too close), and Houston (who is 1-5). Sure VT played USC, but then they go and schedule Western Michigan (one of the worst teams in I-A) and Florida A&M.

Almost every team's schedule makes sure they get a couple of easy mid-majors and then a decent major conference team, so you can't complain about any one conference's scheduling.

As for why the ACC is rated higher than the SEC, I have 3 words: "State of Florida". FSU has carried that conference since joining, and I gaurantee the additions of Miami, VT, and BC won't shift the balance of power any farther northward.

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: Alkaline5

So, Miami plays USC....toss up.
Who can beat FSU, NC State, UVA or VT?
I wouldn't be afraid to pit any of those teams against USC, much less any other Pac 10 team.

Please. You go on about SEC teams having cupcake schedules, but you include Virginia in a list of ACC greats? Virginia's out-of-conference opponents are Temple (even the Big East didn't want them), Akron, and Syracuse. And while we're talking about crappy schedules: FSUs opponents are UAB, Syracuse (who they almost lost to), and Florida (a talented but unpredictable SEC team). Miami's opponents are Louisiana Tech, Louisville (decent but the game was way too close), and Houston (who is 1-5). Sure VT played USC, but then they go and schedule Western Michigan (one of the worst teams in I-A) and Florida A&M.

Almost every team's schedule makes sure they get a couple of easy mid-majors and then a decent major conference team, so you can't complain about any one conference's scheduling.

As for why the ACC is rated higher than the SEC, I have 3 words: "State of Florida". FSU has carried that conference since joining, and I gaurantee the additions of Miami, VT, and BC won't shift the balance of power any farther northward.

You are simply wrong about the SEC's non-conf. scheduling. They are notorious for scheduling WEAK teams.
Here's a few non-conf. schedules this year:
Alabama: Utah State, Western Carolina, Southern Miss.
Auburn: Louisana-Monroe, The Citadel, Louisiana Tech
UT: UNLV, Louisana Tech, Notre Dame (finally, a decent team)
Georgia: Georgia Southern, Marshall, Georgia Tech (rivalry game)
Florida: Eastern Michigan, Middle Tennessee, FSU (rivalry game)
S. C. Troy State, South Florida, Clemson (rivalry game)
Arkansas: New Mexico State, Louisana-Monroe, Texas (rivalry game)
Miss. St.: Tulane, Maine, UAB...all suck-ass teams and they lost 2 of these games
Kentucky: Indiana, Ohio, Louisville (rivalry game)
LSU: Oregon State, Arkansas State, Troy State....love those "state" teams I guess

Do I need to go on? The ACC might have one team each year that schedules this weak. You think FSU has "carried" the ACC? The ACC manages to have 6-7 other bowl teams each year other than FSU. And that's out of only 9 teams. Starting this year it's 11 teams, and next year it's 12.
Look, I'm not saying that the SEC sucks, but I am saying that they are usually over-rated. The SEC's image benefits from years past, when more of its teams were good. Nowadays, people look at the SEC and automatically assume that it's the toughest conference....they do the exact opposite with the ACC...they assume it's a basketball conference that doesn't play good football....and those people are wrong on both counts.

 

[Alkaline5]

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
You are simply wrong about the SEC's non-conf. scheduling. They are notorious for scheduling WEAK teams.
Here's a few non-conf. schedules this year:
Alabama: Utah State, Western Carolina, Southern Miss.
Auburn: Louisana-Monroe, The Citadel, Louisiana Tech
UT: UNLV, Louisana Tech, Notre Dame (finally, a decent team)
Georgia: Georgia Southern, Marshall, Georgia Tech (rivalry game)
Florida: Eastern Michigan, Middle Tennessee, FSU (rivalry game)
S. C. Troy State, South Florida, Clemson (rivalry game)
Arkansas: New Mexico State, Louisana-Monroe, Texas (rivalry game)
Miss. St.: Tulane, Maine, UAB...all suck-ass teams and they lost 2 of these games
Kentucky: Indiana, Ohio, Louisville (rivalry game)
LSU: Oregon State, Arkansas State, Troy State....love those "state" teams I guess

Do I need to go on? The ACC might have one team each year that schedules this weak.

I never said SEC scheduling wasn't weak, I just meant that it was on par with the ACCs. Did you read the list of non-conference opponents that I posted for your top ACC schools, because they're no better than your SEC list. Virginia's is the worst, but here's another that's close: NC St plays Richmond, Ohio State, and East Carolina. Ricmond is I-AA, Ohio State has yet to win a Big 10 game, and East Carolina is at the bottom of C-USA standings.

You think FSU has "carried" the ACC?

How many other teams have been ACC champs since they joined?

Look, I'm not saying that the SEC sucks, but I am saying that they are usually over-rated. The SEC's image benefits from years past, when more of its teams were good. Nowadays, people look at the SEC and automatically assume that it's the toughest conference....they do the exact opposite with the ACC...they assume it's a basketball conference that doesn't play good football....and those people are wrong on both counts.

I agree that the SEC has fallen lately. (That's bound to happen since they had more than one team on NCAA probation.) But the SEC is much more competitive internally. You don't have to be Nostradamus to predict who is in the ACC championship game for the next decade, and that's my main complaint with the ACC.

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: Excelsior

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
ESPN's College Gameday crew will be at the NC State vs. Miami game in Raleigh this coming weekend.

They will likely see the Canes get their first "L" of the season. They can forget scoring 40+ pts on the Wolfpack defense.

Woah dude, state might have a kickass defense, but their offense is average at best....hmmm throw in Brock Berlin at Miami and they are pretty much equal :evil:

In order for them to win, the offensive coordinator must realize that we have the best running back in the conference and several others who would be stars on other teams and realize that Phillip Rivers is not behind center...Rush the ball, Mazzone. Rush the fricking pigskin

I really don't like Mazzone. At all. We need a new offensive coordinator.

He was real good from 20 to 20 with the best QB in the history of the school at the helm...Of course then again this QB learned under Norm Chow. I'd axe him if I was Lee Fowler. It does not take a rocket scientist to see that they really can't throw the ball for sh!t right now so why do it when you have to look at this...

QB:
Jay Davis 4 TD's, 5 Interceptions, 6 sacks
Marcus Stone 1 Rushing TD, 1 Interception, 3 sacks

RB's:
TA McLendon 5 TD's, 5.1 yards per carry
Reggie Davis 2 TD's, 4.7 yards per carry
Richard Washington 11.6 yards per carry
Tramain Hall 6.1 yards per carry
Not to mention Darrell Blackman and Bobby Washington have combined for 3 TD's and close to 250 yards

Incidentally, none of these running backs are in the top 5 in the conference in rushing yards, TA is #6, the next is Reggie Davis at #30. Why, you may ask? Because Mazzone is mentally retarded and people are seeing that now that he doesn't have Phillip Rivers to make him look good.

 

[erikistired]

Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend
Let's see if Auburn can beat Georgia...

i'm so torn. as a diehard dawg fan i'll never root for a georgia loss but the idea of an sec national champion, even if it's not georgia is exciting. maybe shut up all these west coast/midwest fans for once (what am i saying, that will never happen).

 

[erikistired]

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Slap
I like how all the Miami fans are bashing UT saying an Auburn win over them means nothing. This is the same UT team that beat Miami last year when Winslow was a so called "soldier". From the way I see it, Miami couldn't beat UT this year much less Auburn.

That's because Miami fans don't really understand how a tough conference works.

!!!

quoted for the truth! bash the SEC all you want, but the truth is all these other conferences pale in comparison. the sec isn't great this year? feel free to bring your teams in and play sec teams . play UGA, play UT, play auburn, hell play florida and LSU. these are teams that very well CAN win (even if they don't look impressive to you, they are very capable of winning against ANYONE). stay complacent in your conferences full of scrub teams, whatever. just be thankful you got to avoid an sec team for another year while you're celebrating your false championship run.

 

[rutchtkim]

Rutgers rules. :laugh:

 

[Pacfanweb]

Alky, you are dreaming if you think the ACC overall schedules as weakly as the SEC. Sure, you may find a team or two that has a weak OOC schedule, but that is not a regular occurence.

You mentioned NC State's schedule: Okay, we played Richmond....that's our gimme for the year. I agree that all teams should have one.
We played Ohio State....you can't tell me that scheduling OSU is a bad thing for your schedule. I don't care if they are a bit off this year, they're still tougher than nearly all of the SEC's non-conf opponents.
Usually, they're good, and they were top-10 when we played them. Can't help if they are having a bit of an off year, but they still aren't the freaking Citadel.
And yes, we play ECU....that was forced on us by our state legislature. UNC has to play them some, too.
BUT....ECU, when we scheduled that game, was usually a bowl team....UNLIKE most of the SEC's non-conf. opponents.

No conference schedules patsies like the SEC, although the Big 12 might come close. Of course, one might argue that the Pac-10's conference schedule is usually filled with patsies.

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: fisher
quoted for the truth! bash the SEC all you want, but the truth is all these other conferences pale in comparison. the sec isn't great this year? feel free to bring your teams in and play sec teams . play UGA, play UT, play auburn, hell play florida and LSU. these are teams that very well CAN win (even if they don't look impressive to you, they are very capable of winning against ANYONE). stay complacent in your conferences full of scrub teams, whatever. just be thankful you got to avoid an sec team for another year while you're celebrating your false championship run.

The ACC "pales in comparison" to the SEC??? Hahahahahahahahaha!!!

Bring on UGA, Auburn, UF, and LSU. They are good, but not great teams. We'll send in NC State, UVA, Miami, FSU, and VT.
Any of those teams are capable of beating any team in the SEC. That doesn't say that the ACC team would win every time, but we'd win more than half of the time.
BTW, the ACC OWNS the SEC in head-to-head matchups in the last 10 years.

Bring them on.

 

[Mill]

PWNAGE to all Miami fans. PWNAGE PWNAGE PWNAGE.

 

[sciencewhiz]

Originally posted by: Mill
PWNAGE to all Miami fans. PWNAGE PWNAGE PWNAGE.

and Florida State too.

 

[Goth]

Originally posted by: sciencewhiz

Originally posted by: Mill
PWNAGE to all Miami fans. PWNAGE PWNAGE PWNAGE.

and Florida State too.

Couldn't have happened to two more deserving teams...

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Goth

Originally posted by: sciencewhiz

Originally posted by: Mill
PWNAGE to all Miami fans. PWNAGE PWNAGE PWNAGE.

and Florida State too.

Couldn't have happened to two more deserving teams...

Yeah, the only thing that would have made this better would have been for OU or USC to lose. USC was promised a win, and OU almost did win.

 

[erikistired]

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: fisher
quoted for the truth! bash the SEC all you want, but the truth is all these other conferences pale in comparison. the sec isn't great this year? feel free to bring your teams in and play sec teams . play UGA, play UT, play auburn, hell play florida and LSU. these are teams that very well CAN win (even if they don't look impressive to you, they are very capable of winning against ANYONE). stay complacent in your conferences full of scrub teams, whatever. just be thankful you got to avoid an sec team for another year while you're celebrating your false championship run.

The ACC "pales in comparison" to the SEC??? Hahahahahahahahaha!!!

Bring on UGA, Auburn, UF, and LSU. They are good, but not great teams. We'll send in NC State, UVA, Miami, FSU, and VT.
Any of those teams are capable of beating any team in the SEC. That doesn't say that the ACC team would win every time, but we'd win more than half of the time.
BTW, the ACC OWNS the SEC in head-to-head matchups in the last 10 years.

Bring them on.

how are fsu and miami doing today? beat by unranked teams? yeah the mighty acc, carried by the state of florida.

riiiight.

and head to head matchups? what was the score of that georgia fsu game a few years ago? remember, the acc champ vs the sec champ. hmm. 26-13 in favor of georgia i think.

anyway.

uga loses to a ranked ut and drops 9 spots? i think they dropped to 12. a RANKED UT. now miami and fsu lose to unranked teams, i fully expect them to fall quite a bit, altho bowl darlings miami probably won't.

 

[udonoogen]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Goth

Originally posted by: sciencewhiz

Originally posted by: Mill
PWNAGE to all Miami fans. PWNAGE PWNAGE PWNAGE.

and Florida State too.

Couldn't have happened to two more deserving teams...

Yeah, the only thing that would have made this better would have been for OU or USC to lose. USC was promised a win, and OU almost did win.

i think the ultimate sweetest thing to happen would be for USC to lose to UCLA in their last and final game. that would make my YEAR.

 

[sciencewhiz]

Originally posted by: udonoogen

i think the ultimate sweetest thing to happen would be for USC to lose to UCLA in their last and final game. that would make my YEAR.

Even though USC would still go to the Rose Bowl, and Cal would be stuck with the Holiday Bowl instead of the Rose Bowl?

 

[kalster]

w00t

awsome week for college football

happy to see cal up to no 4 in ap, really good football team for sure

 

[KLin]

Originally posted by: sciencewhiz

Originally posted by: udonoogen

i think the ultimate sweetest thing to happen would be for USC to lose to UCLA in their last and final game. that would make my YEAR.

Even though USC would still go to the Rose Bowl, and Cal would be stuck with the Holiday Bowl instead of the Rose Bowl?

If Cal wins out the season, they're going to a BCS bowl.

 

[sciencewhiz]

Originally posted by: KLin
If Cal wins out the season, they're going to a BCS bowl.

It all depends on who else wins. Cal could easily get shut out of a BCS bowl because of Utah. They need to finish 3rd in the BCS (or have USC finish first) to guarantee a spot.