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Lifer
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being arrested sucks. Going to court sucks. Walking out is hassle free.
I looked it over and it seems that there were only about 8 reviews before the incident, and they were equally spread. So the place was not impressing everyone to begin with.I wonder if there's a way to filter the yelp reviews. I'd like to see the reviews of people that ate there VS all the other people chiming in regarding the tipping incident that have never eaten there.
A menu acts as a contract?
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There's different types of contracts. If you go up to a newsstand, grab a newspaper and drop 50 cents on the counter and walk away, the guy pockets the change, congratulations, you have just completed a legally binding implied contract.
No, the menu itself is not a contract, but it can be used as evidence for the value of the contract defined by your actions (ordering food, having it served, and then eating in a restaurant will create an implied contract to pay for the food; menu/signs give evidence for the cost)
didn't partake? Did someone who works there take your order? then take it to the cook? then get it when it's ready? and ask you if you needed anything as you were picking it up to go? Aside from sitting at a booth and getting a glass of something to drink, and them stopping by twice for 10 seconds to ask if everything's okay. The take out order is exactly the same, you tip less because they don't have to spend the extra 30 seconds re-filling your drink. But nothing else is different. So I would say a to go order you're definitely partaking in their service and using a server to do it. Unless a robot answers your call, takes your order and gets it for you auto magically.
Tipping for crappy service sucks, but everywhere I eat has signs posted everywhere saying parties of 6 or more get a automatic gratuity added to their bill. I don't see how anyone could possibly fight this and win. It's posted, if you don't like it go somewhere that doesn't automatically add it. Chuck-E-Cheese is about the only place I can think of that doesn't though.
BTW - At least in California, a mandatory addition for parties of 6 or more is definitely legal. They consider it a legal binding agreement because it's posted for everyone to read, and by eating there in a group of 6 or more you're agreeing to the conditions posted. It might very in other states I dunno.
ok sure i agree.
but no matter what the law can't change the meaning of a word. the menu says 15% gratuity. since we already know that gratuity is voluntary you DO not have have to pay.
only way i see it being legal and able to sue would be to say they paid %14 when they agreed to 18%.
I actually have no problem with tipping. I will tip for good service and not tip for bad service. However, your arguement doesn't make any sense. That is not an apples to apples comparison. But I guess you have no idea what you are talking about anyways.
Stay in school kids.
Speaking of staying in school, tipping was never about good or bad service. Just getting the service.
It's those that feel entitled to screw others so they can afford to eat beyond their means that have put clauses on level of service having to be above and beyond to deserve
I only see three pictures on the yelp page. What happened to the others? T_T
Way harsh.They got what they deserved for failing at reading and comprehension. The allegation, probably true, that the service sucked is irrelevant, the gratuity notice is printed for all to see.
Fuck them.
... ATOT effect...?Yeah ... 300+ reviews pruned down to 20+ with positive ones bumped up. Meh, it makes sense, but it was funny while it lasted.
The price paid to the restaurant includes the cost of service. Believing otherwise just means the owner fucked up when pricing his food and determining the wages he's paying his employees. Do you tip your dry cleaners when they bring the clothes out to you? Do you tip the electronics store employees or staples employees when they help you put a furniture item/tv in your truck?
Very few places do mandatory gratuities, and the ones that do almost always have lousy service. If I see a sign like that, I immediately leave and go somewhere else.
I worked in at a restaurant as a bus boy and most of our pay was a portion of the servers tip outs, and thats how it goes at most restaurants. So when your tight penny pinchin ass can't atleast leave a couple dollars tip, your not just screwin over the servers, whos entire pay is based off tips, but also the bus boy whos still gotta clean up the mess you left. People who have never worked in the food service business just don't understand how it all works or just don't care, because they're cheap pricks.
I worked in at a restaurant as a bus boy and most of our pay was a portion of the servers tip outs, and thats how it goes at most restaurants. So when your tight penny pinchin ass can't atleast leave a couple dollars tip, your not just screwin over the servers, whos entire pay is based off tips, but also the bus boy whos still gotta clean up the mess you left. People who have never worked in the food service business just don't understand how it all works or just don't care, because they're cheap pricks.